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She isn't impervious to fire in the books? Lol. That's a pretty big change.
Dying the eyebrows would probably just make her look more silly. The ultra blonde look is hard to pull off when it isn't natural. Same problem with Cersei. Compare them to Jaime who is a natural.
Re: HBO's A Game of Thrones
She isn't impervious to fire in the books? Lol. That's a pretty big change.
Dying the eyebrows would probably just make her look more silly. The ultra blonde look is hard to pull off when it isn't natural. Same problem with Cersei. Compare them to Jaime who is a natural.
The first time with the Dragon Eggs, is a magic thing.. also complicated too.
You're going to be interested to know that all 3 characters you mentioned end up bald. Danny via fire, Cerseri via the fayth shaming (they don't just give her a swag hair cut) and Jamie via choice when Brieene is bringing him to King's Landing (season 3 circa) so people wouldn't recognize him.
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So how do you guys think this season will end?
My guess is Cersei will burn down part of King's Landing with wild fire, killing Tommen by mistake.
The town will turn to chaos as the King is dead an no successor is apparent. This would be a good time for Varys to fulfill his book plot when he returned to King's Landing, adding to the Chaos.
I don't think Dany will return to King's Landing this season, as I believe she'll get there after the event I think will happen during the last scene. I believe her first time in King's Landing will be just like in her vision.
Jon and Sansa will be at Winterfell, having defeated Ramsay. The Northern Houses will quickly support Sansa's role as Lady of the North, as I think Rickon dies. Little finger will be there to influence Sansa, having obtained influence in the North and East. Jon will have to decide what's next, realizing the Others are marching South. This will separate him from Sansa, concluding their time together. Jon will make a statement to the fact he's just a bastard, his place is out there.
We'll break to Bran who will for some reason will complete the Tower of Joy scene, revealing Jon's true parentage and answering the question who should be king, giving the audience the answer to who Jon is and where he should be. The show's wonky on travel time, but I can't see Bran making it any further than the Wall this season. While there, Bran will sense the Nights King who will have his entire Army glaring at the Wall. The season will end with The Wall crashing down and all of Westeros exposed.
Re: HBO's A Game of Thrones
So how do you guys think this season will end?
My guess is Cersei will burn down part of King's Landing with wild fire, killing Tommen by mistake.
The town will turn to chaos as the King is dead an no successor is apparent. This would be a good time for Varys to fulfill his book plot when he returned to King's Landing, adding to the Chaos.
I don't think Dany will return to King's Landing this season, as I believe she'll get there after the event I think will happen during the last scene. I believe her first time in King's Landing will be just like in her vision.
Jon and Sansa will be at Winterfell, having defeated Ramsay. The Northern Houses will quickly support Sansa's role as Lady of the North, as I think Rickon dies. Little finger will be there to influence Sansa, having obtained influence in the North and East. Jon will have to decide what's next, realizing the Others are marching South. This will separate him from Sansa, concluding their time together. Jon will make a statement to the fact he's just a bastard, his place is out there.
We'll break to Bran who will for some reason will complete the Tower of Joy scene, revealing Jon's true parentage and answering the question who should be king, giving the audience the answer to who Jon is and where he should be. The show's wonky on travel time, but I can't see Bran making it any further than the Wall this season. While there, Bran will sense the Nights King who will have his entire Army glaring at the Wall. The season will end with The Wall crashing down and all of Westeros exposed.
That's basically how I see it also.
If (when ) Jon wins Melisandre will be convinced he's the prince that was promised, creating tension with Sansa giving Littefinger an opening for shenanigans.
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Damn you guys know your shit!!! I am embarrassed to share my thoughts.
I still think Snow is the story but sometimes I think it is Bran or Dany.
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I just hope at some point Jon tells Sansa that Bran (the heir to Winterfell) is alive, even if she hasn't... that would make Rickon the heir.
Unfortunately I don't think this at any point has ever been emphasized in the show.
- A Private Eye
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Sansa obviously thinks they had a big push on womens rights in the North and eldest now means head of house 
Speaking of lineage can someone answer something here. If Jon is the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar is he not still a bastard, in which case does he not have a lesser claim than Dany? Or is the theory that he married Lyanna in secret as well?
Also where does that leave Gendry? I know he's been missing for seasons but as Roberts only other living son, if Tommen were to die is he not next in line?
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If R+ L = J is true then it depends on whether Rhaegar and Lyanna got married in secret (this is were it gets complicated). The Targs believed in polygamy. Even if they weren't though and Jon is still a bastard (albeit a more prestigious bastard), then he could easily still be legitimatized by Stannis, Danny (unlikely) or whomever.
Anyway yes, Jon would be ahead of Danny in the line. However do not expect this to end like Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King.
As for Gendry, he's sadly just a bastard. His role is over played in the show, in the books Robert had another bastard called Edric Storm. Hardly anyone knows about Gendry (except Cerseri really and they're hardly going to tell anyone), but Brieene does come across him when traveling the Riverlands and realizes he looks like Renly (Roberts brother). Gendry in the books just stays with the Brotherhood of Banners, he never leaves them like in the show or ends up in a boat rowing away.
If Gendry shows up again and plays a major role, it will be show only. In the books though George did say supposedly that
Funnily enough under law, Stannis would come after Tommem. That isn't happening in either books or show.
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The Targearyans have no claim to the throne though as it stands? As a deposed royal line it would have to be taken by force again. Should Tommen die the next King or Queen would be his next nearest living heir (whoever that is) not just revert back to the previous royal family.
I say that because I don't see Jon taking the crown by force. However I do see Dany doing that (probably defeating the walkers at the sane time) only to find out she's not the most senior Targaeryan. Which sets up Dany vs Jon. Should Jon win everyone would look to him as king by default.
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The Baratheons/Lannisters over threw Targs, reality is the line of succession really comes down to which family holds King's Landing.
A bigger deal is made out of the line-of succession in the books and how it's really matters when it's convenient for who's in charge.
Part of the concept of Cerseri being paraded through King's Landing, is it means it really makes it hard for her to ever be in power again (in the show no one really brought it up this season). It's not just humiliation/shaming, it's the Faith making sure that no one is following her after that (except Qyburn and undead Mountain).
I don't think Danny's dragons will save the day against "The Others" in the books. I think Jon will literally play out a version of the Azor Ahai prophecy. That doesn't mean Jon lives happily ever after.
One thing of note, despite all the prophecies/foreshadowing and book Danny being obsessed with it. I'm pretty sure none of them specifically suggest she ends up on the thrown or even tell her that. They tell her what to do and give her hints of what's to come, but none of it says "if you do this you'll be Queen". The books make a big deal out of prophecies/visions, although they're mostly metaphorical.
That said it's worth saying, there's only one that specifically shows a character sitting on the throne, it's not who show watchers think and it's from one of the released chapters from TWOW that was moved from the 5th book. It's a book spoiler with larger hints towards to the future. I'm not going to say who it is even in spoiler tags, since certain people won't use tags and ruin it for a few others here who'd rather not know. It also probably doesn't apply to the show.
