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- Smoking Guns
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That's not even the dumbest thing the Trump admin did today. They fucking sent their talking points of the day to the Democrats by accident.
I laughed
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I've been told "this is it" for Mueller, Stormy, Cohen, Comey, taxes, collusion, emoluments, you name it. If you're now saying this memo is fake then it doesn't say much for The strength of your argument. The dude is an idiot, he shouldn't be President, but I'm not surprised Republicans would want him out and would impeach it they could keep it hidden -- They want Pence, not because they're patriots, but because they're elites. I've been called an idiot before for saying nothing would come from any other controversy that surrounded him, and I'm saying it again. Maybe I'll be wrong this time.
Of the three people trying to primary him, only one isn't a rotted piece of monkey excrement. Again, it you're using Joe Walsh for your argument, your argument stinks.
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Of the three people trying to primary him, only one isn't a rotted piece of monkey excrement. Again, it you're using Joe Walsh for your argument, your argument stinks.
Joe Walsh is a POS, but that's irrelevant. You're being disingenuous here and pivoting.
I never said it was fake, I'm saying it's what the WH chose to release. Are you naive enough to believe they're going to be honest with this? When are they ever honest? Weren't you the first guy here to say "I told you so" after Barr released the fake memo? Didn't it ever occur to you to learn from that? You were quickly fooled, and you used that to validate yourself on a message board (albeit it briefly.) Never had an 'Ah ah' moment a few days later?
It's laughable that any adult could watch this administration for the last two years and feel that they should be suspicious of those pointing out their criminality. All while demanding more "evidence."
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Pivoting from what?? I can't stand Trump. But I'm being honest here. I don't see the word "favor" lasting for a year or being strong enough grounds for impeachment. Nothing happened with Barrs memo, nothing happened with the Mueller report. The memo wasn't written by flunkies but people who work for the government to make sure classified info isn't released. People are saying it's fake. Why would you say that if it's at once the smoking gun and just propaganda?
- Randall Flagg
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I don't think you possess the maturity level or honesty to understand what is happening right now.
Says the guy who claimed 9/11 was an inside job and that Trump colluded with Putin. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Every prediction you make is wrong, and you blindly accept any rumor as fact if it’s damning to Trump. 48 hours ago you were convinced Trump withheld aide for dirt on Biden (never mind that last year 3 democratic senators asked Ukraine for dirt on Trump), and when proven wrong, you just invent shit.
You’re a laugh riot dude. You parrot everything conspiracy and never admit when you’re duped. Case and point. You talking about maturity is the funniest post since your pet monkey got banned.
I’m sure you’ll have another insightful prediction and understanding of reality separate from those with an IQ over 100 when the next story breaks.
Just remember, virtually every story you’ve linked the past 3 years has been wrong. It would be laugh out loud hysterical if it wasn’t so sad that a grown man in his 40s sits in his basement believing Alex Jones level conspiracy, regurgitating them on a GNR forum, and believing himself a better person for it.
Name one thing you’ve claimed to be true that didn’t require a decoder ring, hearing voices, and a complete lack of fact to be remotely true. You just did it with your “I can see things in the transcript that aren’t there - none of you are smart enough to see it! But if you tilt your head, turn the microwave on, and drink the silver oxide laced with peyote, the truth is there!”
- Randall Flagg
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The transcript of President Trump’s phone call with Ukrainian President Zelensky is yet another illustration of the rule: Never ask a question you don’t know the answer to.
But on the basis of one drama queen’s overreaction to a rumor she’d heard about what was said on a phone call she didn’t hear (I'm assuming the whistleblower is Christine Blasey Ford), the Democrats have launched impeachment proceedings against the president.
I guess they figured it's easier than flying to South Dakota with picks and chisels and carving Trump into Mount Rushmore. But it will have the same effect.
Now that the transcript has been released, it’s The New York Times that doesn't want anyone to see it.
The transcript I'd like to see is the one of Nancy Pelosi reading the Trump transcript.
F@@@@@@CK! Whose f***ing idea was it to demand this goddamn transcript?
F@CK!
F@@CK!
F@@@CK!
The absolute worst version for Trump -- i.e. the one being repeated non-stop on MSNBC -- is that he did exactly what Obama and Biden were doing to Ukraine: intimidating an ally into giving us something in exchange for the foreign aid we were giving them.
Biden himself bragged about getting Ukraine’s prosecutor fired by threatening to withhold a big fat check from them.
The Democrats’ argument is: No, no, no! When WE were pressuring Ukraine, we were doing it for good! Don’t you understand? We’re good; they’re bad.
The other reason the media are going to have to bury this transcript is that Trump brought up a few items that the media have been hoping the public would never find out about.
Trump said: “There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution, so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.”
Well, that’s something the media haven't mentioned before! Ninety-nine percent of Americans will be hearing about the funny business with Biden's son, Hunter, for the first time with the release of this transcript.
Why did Vice President Biden order the Ukrainian president to fire the prosecutor investigating the Ukrainian company paying his son millions of dollars? Are Democrats claiming that this company was clean as a whistle and it was an absolute OUTRAGE that it was being investigated?
Ukraine was looking into the company that conveniently placed Hunter Biden on its board long before Trump came on the scene. Something must have made the Ukrainian prosecutor want to investigate Biden’s company -- and it sure wasn’t to curry favor with the Obama/Biden administration.
The second issue the media does not want anyone to think about is CrowdStrike.
What is CrowdStrike, you ask? That is the cybersecurity firm that is the sole source of the claim that the Russians hacked the DNC’s emails -- which launched the conspiracy theories that tied our country in knots for the past three years.
The Russian collusion story was originally hatched by Hillary Clinton in the summer of 2016 to cover up the utter corruption revealed by the dump of Democratic National Committee emails on Wikileaks. As was her practice whenever a scandal threatened to engulf her, Hillary rushed out and told the press to investigate something else.
And “the great story” about the DNC email hack wasn’t about a “vast right-wing conspiracy” -- as she claimed when the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke. No, this time, it was a vast Russian conspiracy!
At the time, the entire media laughed at Hillary’s Russian conspiracy nonsense -- The New York Times, New York Newsday, the Los Angeles Times and so on. But then Trump won the election, and suddenly the Russia conspiracy seemed totally believable. What else could explain how Americans could put this boob in the White House?
The subsequent three years of breathless Russia coverage was based entirely on the word of one cybersecurity firm, CrowdStrike, that the DNC's emails had been hacked by Russia.
Recall that the DNC wouldn’t allow the FBI or any other U.S. government official anywhere near its computers. That’s precisely why so many cybersecurity experts doubted that it was the Russians: The FBI was never allowed to perform its own investigation.
CrowdStrike was founded by Ukrainian Dmitri Alperovitch (now an American citizen apparently -- because who isn't?) and funded by the fanatically anti-Russian Ukrainian oligarch Viktor Pinchuk.
Talk about interfering with our democracy! Alperovitch and Pinchuk sent one political party and nine-tenths of the American media off on a wild goose chase into Russian collusion that, after years of accusations, investigations and embarrassing conspiracy-mongering ... turned up goose eggs.
The entire Russian insanity was launched by a couple of Ukrainians. I think a lot of us would like to get to the bottom of that.
This is why Trump said to President Zelensky: “I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say CrowdStrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people ... The server, they say Ukraine has it.”
(How'd you like to be the Ukrainian translator for a Trump conversation?)
Trump has been justly criticized for hiring his daughter and son-in-law at the White House. But at least when he pressures a foreign leader for a favor, it’s to investigate corruption, not to get a prosecutor off his son’s back. Maybe Biden's son was guilty, maybe he was innocent. But it is a fact that Joe Biden held up foreign aid to a desperately needy ally in exchange for their halting prosecution that implicated his son. It's not Trump's fault that Biden is now running for president.
I'll give the Democrats this: They've gotten so good at trying to remove Trump from office that, instead of three years, their insane accusations blow up in their faces within a week.
- Randall Flagg
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Holy shit. This whistleblower complaint is entirely hearsay and conjecture. The person that wrote it has no first hand knowledge and opines reasons they think things happened. How the fuck is this taken credible. It’s the Steele Dossier all over again. Coincidence that the same people that immediately accepted the dossier as fact want to believe this is true too?!?
10-1 democrats demand a new special counsel, but will demand that Biden being exempt from it. Comey is probably providing immunity to all of Biden’s people as we speak. 
