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johndivney wrote:A reality TV star who behaves like bully & espouses reactionary regressive ideas in the highest office of public service.. yea, the entertainment value argument is totally undermined by the significance of the damage it's doing.
The whole idea was a really bad joke from the beginning that got completely out of hand & now look at what you've got..Well, listen to the content and don't pay attention to the noise and you will see he has been very reasonable and condemned the racist shit and won't go after Hillary yet you pussies are so worried about Trump hurting feelings. Haha... go fuck yourselves. Let's judge him over real matters and not this silly shit.
Pretty easy to see the character of the man, it's been on display for the past year. For the past fuckin 30 years, really. He didn't condemn the racist shit when he was using it as a platform to get elected, he already energised those people.
He has given voice to people that should've remained voiceless & on the fringes of the internet like Polluxlm here! His supporters & himself should be held accountable for the deplorable they've banded together with. You're too pussy to demand common decency & manners, all too willing to debase the process by supporting his bullying & pathetic behaviour & jump in bed with scumbags. It takes balls to stand up & say this behaviour isn't right & to acknowledge it's effects. It's easy to laugh it off or excuse it. You're the pussy.
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What racist shit? No one would know who the fuck David Duke is if the left didn't parade a camera out in front of him to connect him to Trump. This conference in DC with the skin heads? 285 fucking idiots showed up. And about 100 journalist showed up to record them. It's all bullshit. This is some fringe group that had about as many attendees as your normal Clinton rally, and unlike the Clinton rally, the parent of an attempted cop killer or the parent of a mass shooter who killed 50 people weren't invited to be front and center. 
Point is the public is only aware of the group because the media keeps a spot light on them. Why the fuck should Trump do back flips to make it any more clearer he wants nothing to do with these clowns, never associated with them, and never even met with them. He denounced David Duke immediately, and the media kept pestering him to do more. Now we have this nazi group, which Trump has denounced, and you people want more.
How about maybe take the camera and microphone away from the crazies and cover shit that matters. You wonder why Trump isn't kissing their asses for interviews. This is fucking why. Manufacture a story and then attack Trump for not disavowing it in the manner and language you consistently move the goal post to accomplish.
Trump won. Get the fuck over it. He isn't a racist and he's not supporting racist policies. You're just too fucking dumb to make an argument without resorting to your pre-programmed zingers you repeat like a parrot. Securing the border isn't racist. Not pretending trans people aren't mentally ill isn't bigotry. And not desiring to turn this country into a "multi-cultural" cesspool isn't xenophobic. I want the border secure because it's the law and an open border isn't sustainable. I don't care what adults do with their bodies, but I don't want to be arrested because I refuse to call a man with a beard and two balls and the shaft a woman. I think America has an awesome culture already and welcome anyone who legally enters, but don't want to import uneducated, illiterate dipshits who think free speech is punishable by death and our women are less than human.
So if you're going to continue this child like behavior of calling anyone a name who disagrees with you, piss off to tumbler or one of the many progressive enclaves out there where you too can choose between 300 gender pronouns and 80 sexual persuasions. But if you're going to hang around here and make these claims, link some articles to support your claims that have actual documented quotes rather than just "feels" from some 24 year old with a "14th Century Queer Art with Feces" degree.
I know the MO of the left is to redefine words to make them fit their narrative. That's why "rape" can now consist of only looks or failure to stop between every act in an intimate encounter and receive a witnessed and notarized consent form. Or "assault" means touching someone's elbow.
So let me remind you what these words mean you throw around.
Racism - hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Example: Blue skinned people are inferior to green skin people.
Bigot - a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Example: Anyone who voted for Donald Trump is a deplorable human being and I refuse to even entertain their reasoning because I know my opinions are intrinsically right.
Xenophobe - a person who fears or hates foreigners, people from different cultures, or strangers.
Example: I don't want a single person from China bringing their bland food or weird eastern ideas into my neighborhood. We need to prevent anyone who has left this county from coming back and spreading their weird ideas.
And lastly,
Homophobe - a person who fears or hates homosexuals and homosexuality.
Example: Keep those fags away from my kid. I don't want him catching the gay or learning to play dress up and play with barbies.
So if you can pull actual arguments or statements that align with one of these defined words, do so. But fear mongering and scouring the darkest reaches of the web to find bad people to falsely associate with Trump isn't the same thing.
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Jesus Christ, @Randal Flagg just destroyed @John Divney'a entire argument. Fuck me that was a beat down.
Re: US Politics Thread
Jesus Christ, @Randal Flagg just destroyed @John Divney'a entire argument. Fuck me that was a beat down.
The fuck.
Randall's your white knight, huh? Need him to fight all your battles do you? Just like irl..
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What racist shit?
So if you're going to continue this child like behavior of calling anyone a name who disagrees with you, piss off to tumbler or one of the many progressive enclaves out there where you too can choose between 300 gender pronouns and 80 sexual persuasions. But if you're going to hang around here and make these claims, link some articles to support your claims that have actual documented quotes rather than just "feels" from some 24 year old with a "14th Century Queer Art with Feces" degree.
I know the MO of the left is to redefine words to make them fit their narrative. That's why "rape" can now consist of only looks or failure to stop between every act in an intimate encounter and receive a witnessed and notarized consent form. Or "assault" means touching someone's elbow.
So let me remind you what these words mean you throw around.
Racism - hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Example: Blue skinned people are inferior to green skin people.
Bigot - a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Example: Anyone who voted for Donald Trump is a deplorable human being and I refuse to even entertain their reasoning because I know my opinions are intrinsically right.
Xenophobe - a person who fears or hates foreigners, people from different cultures, or strangers.
Example: I don't want a single person from China bringing their bland food or weird eastern ideas into my neighborhood. We need to prevent anyone who has left this county from coming back and spreading their weird ideas.
And lastly,
Homophobe - a person who fears or hates homosexuals and homosexuality.Example: Keep those fags away from my kid. I don't want him catching the gay or learning to play dress up and play with barbies.
So if you can pull actual arguments or statements that align with one of these defined words, do so. But fear mongering and scouring the darkest reaches of the web to find bad people to falsely associate with Trump isn't the same thing.
“We’re in front of a very hostile judge,” Mr. Trump said. “The judge was appointed by Barack Obama, federal judge. Frankly, he should recuse himself because he’s given us ruling after ruling after ruling, negative, negative, negative.”
Mr. Trump also told the audience, which had previously chanted the Republican standard-bearer’s signature “build that wall” mantra in reference to Mr. Trump’s proposed wall along the Mexican border, that Judge Curiel is “Mexican.”
“What happens is the judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican, which is great. I think that’s fine,” Mr. Trump said.
Judge Curiel was born in Indiana.
Randall, my man, your volatility will not disguise the emptiness of your rhetoric. What the hell are you even rambling maniacally about, redefining words? You oughta look in the mirror. SG originally used the phrase "racist shit", for what it's worth.
You ever hear the expression if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck?
Or also, I can see the forest for the trees.
Donald has used the basket of deplorables as a platform & could have condemned and distanced himself from them at a number of occasions, but has kept the sentiment and shared beliefs close to his campaign. Your denial of that I cannot help you with. You ask for facts then detail where these facts are allowed to come from, what opinions are valid and which aren't. I can't argue against that as any evidence presented is already falsified by your prejudice. The truly vile attitudes which have arisen from Trumps leadership are apparent, they're a reflection of the candidate. Likewise on the other side, it that isn't what we're talking about here, sorry. So.. fuck you you ignorant uncouth cunt.
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What racist shit?
Donald Trump violated the civil rights act by refusing to rent homes to black people.
http://www.nytimes.com/times-insider/20 … ald-trump/
http://new.www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/ … 55553.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 … lacks.html
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/ … antic-cityTrump continued to refuse to rent homes to black people three years after Justice Department ruling on the matter sides against Trump.
http://www.nytimes.com/1978/03/07/archi … -bias.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1983/10/16/reale … wanted=allTrump ordered blacks to leave casino floor whenever him or wife arrives on property.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/ … antic-city
1991 book written by Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino President quotes Trump as saying:
“I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day… . I think the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.“
http://articles.philly.com/1991-05-10/n … nald-trumpTrump built a casino in black majority city and breaks promise to mayor about hiring locals, refrains to hire the minorities and opting to staff the casino with almost exclusively all Caucasian employees.
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/mon … e-1.726389Trump was asked about replacing TSA's 'heebeejabis' with veterans, responded with:
"We're looking at it"
http://www.npr.org/2016/06/30/484229621 … h-veterans
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-t … ans-2016-7
http://time.com/4039658/trump-obama-muslim/Trump responded to accusations of racism by hiring a former aid for Joseph McCarthy to sue the government for half a billion dollars.
http://www.salon.com/2011/04/28/donald_ … tion_suit/Trump kept books of Hitler Speeches by his bed.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-t … bed-2015-8
http://forward.com/the-assimilator/3186 … nd-hitler/
http://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-hi … eches-bookTrump's campaign photoshopped a white model black.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don … 405677a680
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/donald- … ine-store/Trump refused to disavow support from the Klu Klux Klan multiple times during interview only to change his mind later on twitter.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/3739/disg … en-shapiro
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-kkk-cn … 53871.html
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ … premacists
http://time.com/4240268/donald-trump-kkk-david-duke/
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/d … ump-219777The KKK endorses Trump.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/a-lot-o … ses-trump/
http://www.snopes.com/2016/05/02/klan-l … ses-trump/
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/0 … president/Trump retweets message from Pro-Hitler, white genocide conspiracy Twitter account.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/t … tm-retweet
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/43 … itter-user
http://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-retw … jewmerica/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic … -1.2506735Analysis shows that 62% of the people Trump retweeted on the week of January 19th 2016 were white supremacist accounts.
http://www.getlittlebird.com/blog/data- … t-accountsTrump picks famed white supremacist leader as delegate.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 … california
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article … California
http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-picks … -delegate/Trump's son gives interview with Holocaust denying radio show host who wants to bring back slavery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Polit … _interview
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop- … 0?lo=ap_c1
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre … radio-showTrump's "my African-American" isn't even a Trump supporter.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ … -supporterTrump gives press credentials to white supremacist radio host.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/donald-trum … premacist/Trump discriminated against Native-Americans as well.
http://www.courant.com/business/dan-haa … olumn.htmlSix former contestants of The Apprentice blast Trump as a racist and sexist.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/form … cy-n556306Trumps father was arrested for attacking police officers at KKK rally.
http://boingboing.net/2015/09/09/1927-n … trump.html
http://addictinginfo.org/2015/09/09/don … -officers/
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/f … t-1927-kkkPublic Policy Polling polls Trump supporters and discovers:
60% Support banning Muslims from entering the United States
50% Support the Confederate flag hanging on the capital grounds
30% Support shutting down all mosques in the United States
30% Wish the South won the civil war
25% Islam should be illegal in the United States
25% Support the policy of Japanese Internment
20% Support banning homosexuals from entering the United States
10% Say Whites are a superior race
(11% aren’t sure one way or another)
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/ … _21616.pdf
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.co … ng_the_u_s
http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/02/gues … g-america/Trump refuses to condemn violence against muslims and African-Americans committed by his supporters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e … SKCN0WM0RJ
http://www.japantoday.com/category/worl … is-ralliesWhen asked for comments on two of his supporters who brutally beat and urinated on a Hispanic homeless man while yelling Pro-Trump Slogans, Trump responds by defending the men as just being "passionate".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor … panic-man/
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donald-trump-c … te-1516392
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/ … story.htmlThe Economist polls Trump supporters and discovers:
15% disapprove of slavery being abolished
- (Another 20% aren’t sure one way or another)
50% support the use of torture on foreign enemy combatants
- (Another 25% aren’t sure one way or another)
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/c … plines.pdf
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upsho … e&_r=2
http://time.com/4236640/donald-trump-racist-supporters/80% of Trump's supporters claim to have no problem with racist comments.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/12/ … -fine.htmlTrump falsely claims 4 out of 5 white people who were victims of homicide were murdered by blacks.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter … e-victims/Trump believes that Mexicans are rapist by default.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi33KkhKRWs
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac … and-crime/Trump tweeted an anti-semitic tweet likely depicting Hillary jewish.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/d … 8?cmpid=sf
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/749239879645687808
https://mic.com/articles/147711/donald- … .tfw8osmNXThe HRC David star tweet turned out to originate from a neo-nazi website.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/ … TE=DEFAULT
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-el … ed-n603161Trump retweets quote from Italian Dictator Benito Mussolini.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35682844
http://time.com/4240330/donald-trump-be … ini-quote/
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-d … mussolini/Trump uses picture of Nazi soldiers in official campaign poster.
https://news.vice.com/article/donald-tr … ewstwitter
https://i.imgur.com/JDqBCXd.jpgTrump's spokesman, Katrina Pierson, critized Obama for being "a negro" and not "pure-breed".
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 … defends-t/
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/top-tru … d-so-am-i/
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- … eeds-tweetOpinions of his supporters.
20% of Trump's supporters think that freeing the slaves was a bad thing. http://time.com/4236640/donald-trump-racist-supporters/
65% of Trump's supporters think Obama is a muslim. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main … .html#more
64% of Trump's supporters think that "Muslims should be subject to more scrutiny" http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 … ign=buffer
Trump supporters are more likely than supporters of other Republican candidates to have negative feelings towards feminists, Muslims, Latinos, Gays and Lesbians, and Transgender people. In contrast, Trump supporters have far warmer feelings towards whites than supporters of other candidates. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru … aa781b32ceTrump's "muslim ban" is unconstitutional.
http://time.com/4139476/donald-trump-sh … migration/
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/12/08/is- … itutional/
https://reason.com/blog/2016/03/03/dona … nstitutionTrump thinks that muslims should wear "special ID badges", as well as having a database tracking muslims.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/trump-c … id-badges/
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/20/opini … ti-muslim/Trump lies about how "muslims celebrated 9/11".
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don … 945feb7326
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac … 1-attacks/Trump wants to racially profile to "prevent criminality".
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e … SKCN0Z50PV
http://fortune.com/2016/06/19/trump-racial-profiling/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 … ontrol-nraTrump had a full-page ad promoting execution of a group of Latino and Black children, who later turned out to be innocent.
Trump continued to believe that they were somehow guilty dispite the DNA test.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 … e-new-york
http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-david … -park-five
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/325982969040879620?ref_src=twsrc%5EtfwHe believes that Obama was born in Kenya.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter … other-cau/
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/us/po … .html?_r=0
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04 … ertificateHe attacked Judge P. Curiel for his "Mexican heritage"
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trum … 1464911442
http://www.forbes.com/sites/henrymiller … d6cc541f44
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2 … nald-trumpAnne Frank's relatives thinks that Trump is 'acting like Hitler'.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world … 38531.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/27/polit … index.htmlTrump was fined $200,000 in 1992 by the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement for not allowing blacks or women onto his casino floor while a racist Mafia leader was gambling.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc … ls/474726/
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/down … eport.htmlTrump kicked the only black Republican official out of an Atlanta Trump event with no explanation.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/black-g … planation/... and it keeps going on.
Seriously, even if you go through this list with a fine-toothed comb and weed out all of the instances where's he's being accused of being racist by association, you're still left with a shit-ton of clearly racist behavior. And this doesn't even include all of the birther bullshit.
Even if you want to maintain that Trump himself is not a racist, you have to admit that he has abused the latent racism present in a part of the constituency to win this election. That in and by itself is inexcusable.
Stop using being anti-PC as an excuse for his behavior. There's a limit to how thin you can stretch things before they break, and that argument is well past the breaking point.
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Jesus Christ, @Randal Flagg just destroyed @John Divney'a entire argument. Fuck me that was a beat down.
No SG, it wasn't. Just 'cause a post was in support of your position doesn't make it a beat down or even a good argument. Seriously...
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So your evidence is the judge. The judge who is a member of La Raza (That's 'the Race' in Spanish for those playing at home) which advocates for Mexican dominion over the South West. They advocate for amnesty/citizenship for people who illegally enter our country. So yes, it was perfectly reasonable for Trump to call in to question the judgement of a Judge who in his off time, advocates for Mexican ownership of US territories and citizenship for illegal immigrants.
Why is this not part of your discussion?
You're correctly condemning a group of white racists who are arguing for "their race" and to keep ownership of America in their hands. Why don't you make that connection to La Raza and condemn them? Should a judge who is a member of this latest Neo Nazi group be allowed to preside on a trial of an a white assaulter against a minority?
I'm truly trying to understand the basis of your argument, but all I can gather from your posts are someone who isn't informed on the issue or consciously chooses to ignore it. Either way, it's not compelling.
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Hillarys lead in the popular vote now well over 2 million....
...but... but!
