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Randall Flagg
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Re: US Politics Thread

Smoking Guns wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

A full auto was used in Vegas. What do you think the bumpstock does??  MAKES THE SEMIAUTO FULL AUTO. Now you can tell me semantics if you like now the mechanisms aren't exactly the same but who gives a fuck. He got the same effect. I am not emotional, I am being RATIONAL. There is no need for anyone to have a bumpstock on an AR15 with a 100 round clip. That shit also will not stop the govt either lol. If they want your gun the AR 15 isn't gonna stop a cruis missile. Lol. We have whackos ruining a good thing.


Again, if you're going to make wild accusations, please at least use the correct legal terminology, especially if you want to make legal recommendations.  Those weren't full auto weapons, which is why bumpstocks are legal.  I agree, functionally they're similar, but it's a legal distinction which is my entire point.  The industry will circumvent the laws because politicians like Schumer and Feinstein know dick about guns and reality.  A sad group you find yourself in the company with.

So I'll ask again, when was a full auto weapon used prior to this?  Unless you think an incredible rarity is worth legislating from.  In which case, why have you not been upset at the other 10,541 deaths to firearm homicides in the past year?

Fuck your distinction. Haha it has the same fucking effect. Do you not agree the bumpstock and ANY DEVICE THAT MAKES A SEMI AUTO AND AUTO SHOULD BE BANNED???


The reality is that bump stocks are legal.  They include a letter from the ATF with every order saying that they're legal.  If you want to change the law to ban them, cool, I can get behind that.  But this is the first time they've been used in any crime.  Did you notify the authrorities when your friend allegedly bought an AK-47?  Or does your concern about the law only extend to strangers and the abstract?

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Politics Thread

slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

This is the problem. Misinformation. This is exactly what the video I posted talked about. Obama didn’t do anything. His EO applied to people on government disability for mental defects that needed a 3rd party to manage their affairs.

Pure semantics as always.

Randall Flagg wrote:

Again, if you're going to make wild accusations, please at least use the correct legal terminology, especially if you want to make legal recommendations.  Those weren't full auto weapons, which is why bumpstocks are legal.  I agree, functionally they're similar, but it's a legal distinction which is my entire point.

More semantics.


Can you offer a solution or are you just going to bitch?  Legitimate question.  You've done nothing but post about prayers and thoughts and how something needs to be done.  Do you have an educated opinion or are you here to just increase your post count with your smug comments?

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Politics Thread

buzzsaw wrote:
slcpunk wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Why has Australia's mass shootings dropped dramatically?? Can we not admit we have a fucking problem??? Jesus Christ, 600 people just got shot and you guys say nothing can be done.

Pistols ok
Shotguns ok
Hunting rifle ok
AR 15 with 100 round mag and a bump stock is NOT OKAY

can we at least admit this simple shit?

It's been shown over and over again. More guns = more deaths by guns. Less guns = less death by guns.

600 people shot and "nothing we can do about it." Give me a break.

You're right. Australia absolutely did it.

You're comparing apples and oranges but that's not surprising.  We can't even stop people from coming into this country but you think a gun ban will stop bad guys from getting whatever they want?  Very naive.

Still waiting for your solution btw...


It's because he and others don't really care.  He's not interested that 1/3 of our federal inmates are illegals and the thousands harmed by illegals every year, not to mention billions in hand outs.  He's not interested in voter integrity, but he'll post conspiracy articles he obviously didn't read about election systems being hacked.  But suggest we require a photo ID, and it's the end of the world.  No post from SLC when the black guy shot up a church last week.  Nothing when the illegal immigrant beat a muslim girl to death with a bat.  Nothing when the Bernie Bro shot up congress. 

Never a solution.  Just low information regurgitation.  It's a game to them and they'll jump on whatever tragedy is convenient to score a point for their side.  Scalise is out denouncing gun control, but I heard Giffords handlers wheeled her out to give a speech in her name when she can't even recite the pledge of allegiance.  Let no tragedy go unused.

slcpunk
 Rep: 149 

Re: US Politics Thread

slcpunk wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

You're comparing apples and oranges but that's not surprising.  We can't even stop people from coming into this country but you think a gun ban will stop bad guys from getting whatever they want?  Very naive.

Still waiting for your solution btw...

Same old tired arguments from the same old tired apologists.

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Politics Thread

slcpunk wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

You're comparing apples and oranges but that's not surprising.  We can't even stop people from coming into this country but you think a gun ban will stop bad guys from getting whatever they want?  Very naive.

Still waiting for your solution btw...

Same old tired arguments from the same old tired apologists.


Do you have an independent idea to contribute to the discussion?

slcpunk
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Re: US Politics Thread

slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Can you offer a solution or are you just going to bitch?  Legitimate question.

I know you well enough to know this isn't a legit question.

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Politics Thread

slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Can you offer a solution or are you just going to bitch?  Legitimate question.

I know you well enough to know this isn't a legit question.


It's perfectly legitimate.  You've contributed nothing but attacks against those who say there isn't a solution, and have offered nothing in response.

buzzsaw
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Re: US Politics Thread

buzzsaw wrote:
slcpunk wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

You're comparing apples and oranges but that's not surprising.  We can't even stop people from coming into this country but you think a gun ban will stop bad guys from getting whatever they want?  Very naive.

Still waiting for your solution btw...

Same old tired arguments from the same old tired apologists.

I don't even own a gun and never have you shit.  Answer the fucking questions about your solution or get the fuck out of here.

slcpunk
 Rep: 149 

Re: US Politics Thread

slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Do you have an independent idea to contribute to the discussion?

I do actually. I see a couple of quitters. Defeatists. Weak "men" who parrot talking points by the cheap whores in Congress bought/paid for by the NRA. Circular logic and regurgitated semantics which are completely void of common sense. All wrapped up in this passive "nothing can be done" attitude while the status quo bends you over and guns down our kids everyday. 

What kind of men not only consent to this but defend it after every new shooting? Powerless men. Weak. Too scared to go out in the world and get what they want. I bet you both settled for ugly wives huh?

slcpunk
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Re: US Politics Thread

slcpunk wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I don't even own a gun and never have you shit.  Answer the fucking questions about your solution or get the fuck out of here.

I never said you owned a gun. I said you were a weak apologist. 600 people shot and here you are....

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