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Re: Current Events Thread
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1415471473091821570?s=12
Looks like AJC is backing up this story of Fraud in Fulton County.
Top tip if you see a Tucker piece. Google it separately. That is not "hard evidence".
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news … ton-county
"As reported by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, there is no indication the double-counted ballots influenced the final total votes for either former President Donald Trump or President Joe Biden, though the duplicates would have given Biden 27 more votes if they were tabulated."
"Carter Jones, an independent monitor of Fulton's elections, posited an election worker may have lost track of which ballots were scanned. He said the chances of organized fraud were small.
“It’s Fulton failing to follow proper election protocols again,” he said. “Fulton is so poor at managing the actual process that if they had actually tried to rig the election, they would have bungled it, and we would have found out.”
"A report written by an independent election observer monitoring the November election in Fulton, which includes much of Atlanta, found the county's election was sloppily handled but did not uncover any fraud. Raffensperger opened an investigation last month into the handling of paperwork in Fulton County related to the use of drop boxes for the 2020 election."
Occams Razor, simplest explanation is probably correct. Incompetence is much easier and likelier than a conspiracy.
That said, incompetence leaves exploitable gaps for bad actors. Tighten up the running of elections in the US, make them easier and more accessible (more polling stations, none of these multi hour lines to vote) and establish an independent elections commission to oversee them.
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Re: Current Events Thread
Smoking Guns wrote:https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1415471473091821570?s=12
Looks like AJC is backing up this story of Fraud in Fulton County.
Top tip if you see a Tucker piece. Google it separately. That is not "hard evidence".
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news … ton-county
"As reported by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, there is no indication the double-counted ballots influenced the final total votes for either former President Donald Trump or President Joe Biden, though the duplicates would have given Biden 27 more votes if they were tabulated."
"Carter Jones, an independent monitor of Fulton's elections, posited an election worker may have lost track of which ballots were scanned. He said the chances of organized fraud were small.
“It’s Fulton failing to follow proper election protocols again,” he said. “Fulton is so poor at managing the actual process that if they had actually tried to rig the election, they would have bungled it, and we would have found out.”
"A report written by an independent election observer monitoring the November election in Fulton, which includes much of Atlanta, found the county's election was sloppily handled but did not uncover any fraud. Raffensperger opened an investigation last month into the handling of paperwork in Fulton County related to the use of drop boxes for the 2020 election."
Occams Razor, simplest explanation is probably correct. Incompetence is much easier and likelier than a conspiracy.
That said, incompetence leaves exploitable gaps for bad actors. Tighten up the running of elections in the US, make them easier and more accessible (more polling stations, none of these multi hour lines to vote) and establish an independent elections commission to oversee them.
We know of 22 votes or whatever. That behavior is unacceptable. It shows that if our election process does have holes. Tucker didn’t say it was enough to over turn anything. He said that it was fraudulent behavior. It was.
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Have you guys noticed every single “mistake” at the poll location level seemed to go Biden’s way? Georgia is the same state the just happened to find 6,000 votes during one recount where majority also went to Trump.
Re: Current Events Thread
LOL, cmon man you're smarter than this to fall for Tucker's BS. The Republican Secretary of State has certified the results multiple times and they have people on the ground to count, etc. And they are whole lot more reliable than Tucker Carlson.
For those who don't know, Carlson got sued (technically FNC) and their defense was he more or less makes up shit.
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Re: Current Events Thread
LOL, cmon man you're smarter than this to fall for Tucker's BS. The Republican Secretary of State has certified the results multiple times and they have people on the ground to count, etc. And they are whole lot more reliable than Tucker Carlson.
For those who don't know, Carlson got sued (technically FNC) and their defense was he more or less makes up shit.
A judge just said the same thing about Rachel Maddow. But I don’t think the Secretary of State disputes these findings and he also happens to support the new voting laws. Also the recounts just simply recounted the same duplicate ballots anyway though they claim they didn’t. There were shenanigans going on. Was it enough to give trump a victory? Who knows. But none of this shit is acceptable
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LOL, cmon man you're smarter than this to fall for Tucker's BS. The Republican Secretary of State has certified the results multiple times and they have people on the ground to count, etc. And they are whole lot more reliable than Tucker Carlson.
For those who don't know, Carlson got sued (technically FNC) and their defense was he more or less makes up shit.
I don't think there was any significant fraud, but all cable networks and radio stations use that as a legal defense. You just don't hear about it when they're sued. Maddow and Lawrence got busted in a lot of lies during the Trump years. It's basically, they're not journalists, but entertainers and aren't meant to be taken seriously. The fact Joy Reid has a job is mind boggling.
I think voter fraud has the ability to sway a local election, though. And voter suppression is the left's voter fraud conspiracy. Neither are significant in any way.
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slashsfro wrote:LOL, cmon man you're smarter than this to fall for Tucker's BS. The Republican Secretary of State has certified the results multiple times and they have people on the ground to count, etc. And they are whole lot more reliable than Tucker Carlson.
For those who don't know, Carlson got sued (technically FNC) and their defense was he more or less makes up shit.
A judge just said the same thing about Rachel Maddow. But I don’t think the Secretary of State disputes these findings and he also happens to support the new voting laws. Also the recounts just simply recounted the same duplicate ballots anyway though they claim they didn’t. There were shenanigans going on. Was it enough to give trump a victory? Who knows. But none of this shit is acceptable
There are numerous examples of voter fraud in Trumps favor across the country…why don’t you address those first?
Re: Current Events Thread
slashsfro wrote:LOL, cmon man you're smarter than this to fall for Tucker's BS. The Republican Secretary of State has certified the results multiple times and they have people on the ground to count, etc. And they are whole lot more reliable than Tucker Carlson.
For those who don't know, Carlson got sued (technically FNC) and their defense was he more or less makes up shit.
I don't think there was any significant fraud, but all cable networks and radio stations use that as a legal defense. You just don't hear about it when they're sued. Maddow and Lawrence got busted in a lot of lies during the Trump years. It's basically, they're not journalists, but entertainers and aren't meant to be taken seriously. The fact Joy Reid has a job is mind boggling.
I think voter fraud has the ability to sway a local election, though. And voter suppression is the left's voter fraud conspiracy. Neither are significant in any way.
Well if it’s not significant then why all the new laws addressing it?
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misterID wrote:slashsfro wrote:LOL, cmon man you're smarter than this to fall for Tucker's BS. The Republican Secretary of State has certified the results multiple times and they have people on the ground to count, etc. And they are whole lot more reliable than Tucker Carlson.
For those who don't know, Carlson got sued (technically FNC) and their defense was he more or less makes up shit.
I don't think there was any significant fraud, but all cable networks and radio stations use that as a legal defense. You just don't hear about it when they're sued. Maddow and Lawrence got busted in a lot of lies during the Trump years. It's basically, they're not journalists, but entertainers and aren't meant to be taken seriously. The fact Joy Reid has a job is mind boggling.
I think voter fraud has the ability to sway a local election, though. And voter suppression is the left's voter fraud conspiracy. Neither are significant in any way.
Well if it’s not significant then why all the new laws addressing it?
Because dip shit each vote is a sacred thing and should be treated as such. Plus a few hundred here and there across a whole state CAN change an election
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mitchejw wrote:misterID wrote:I don't think there was any significant fraud, but all cable networks and radio stations use that as a legal defense. You just don't hear about it when they're sued. Maddow and Lawrence got busted in a lot of lies during the Trump years. It's basically, they're not journalists, but entertainers and aren't meant to be taken seriously. The fact Joy Reid has a job is mind boggling.
I think voter fraud has the ability to sway a local election, though. And voter suppression is the left's voter fraud conspiracy. Neither are significant in any way.
Well if it’s not significant then why all the new laws addressing it?
Because dip shit each vote is a sacred thing and should be treated as such. Plus a few hundred here and there across a whole state CAN change an election
Uh huh? So why not address the voter fraud in Trumps favor?
