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Re: In Search of ... Bumblefoot (A Couple Interesting GnR mentions)
I wonder why the title of the article is also the title of Buckethead's 13-disc epic from last year, "In Search of the ..." Weird.
I, too, would barf if Ron replaced Buckethead's stuff. That'd be a very dumb move on Axl's part, considering we have these leaks with Bucket on them, giving us, as James said, a solid piece to compare the two.
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Re: In Search of ... Bumblefoot (A Couple Interesting GnR mentions)
BF playing on every song doesn't require the deletion of anything IMHO.
Take IRS live. He's added an outro part. So i'd guess the studio features bucket on the solo..then bumble on the outro.
Take any AFD song live. If a chord has a D. Richard will play it open. Robin a powerchord, and BF a chord inversion or something.
I think this is what he'll do. Add a solo when he's got something to add and a spot to add it without pooing on Robin or Bucket's work - and the rest of the time adding another rhythm track to the layers and layers of sound in these songs anyway. (listen to OMG..that's not 1 guitar track).
Re: In Search of ... Bumblefoot (A Couple Interesting GnR mentions)
James Lofton wrote:I worry that the album has to be "dumbed down" so the current lineup(whoever that is) can play the songs and tour behind the release.
personally I dont think Ron is capable of "dumbing things down" guitar wise...i dont even understand a quarter of what the guy does
I'm not insinuating that he sucks. However, when he cant perform certain solos properly that are on these songs, he doesn't need to be within a light year of a studio replacing those tracks.
Buckethead is at a certain level, and then there's everybody else.
Leave his material alone.
Re: In Search of ... Bumblefoot (A Couple Interesting GnR mentions)
It has to be exciting for you, since Chinese Democracy is becoming such a piece of rock history. Do you know what your contribution to the album is?
I played on every song.
Axl: "Some of Buckethead's performances are on our album." -GNR.com, 03/26/08
Ron: "Are you gonna be included on all tracks?
Not on all, but on a good chunk of them, definetely. I played a lot of rhythm parts to the stuff - To me, it felt like a lot of the rhythm tracks seemed a little mechanical and just didn't have that kinda sleazy thing that GNR always had... Also, I was pretty much given a hundred guitar solos for each song to find the thing that's gonna work best - we made sure that every possibility was there.
How many tracks have you been working on?
I don't know... we've done so many songs and not all of them will be on the album. I don't wanna know too much about the album - I want to be surprised myself. Like even the final mixes - I haven't heard them yet!" - Maximum Threshold, 04/13/07
Buckethead will be featured on CD.
Ron has recorded rhythm parts for CD.
Ron has gone through various guitar solos recorded by Bucket & Robin (and maybe Brian May, Fortus & Huge), to see how different alternatives work within the songs. Kinda daunting to do this kinda shit so late in the game but that's GNR for you!
Ron may have recorded solos that have replaced Bucket's versions.
Ron has not replaced Bucket on CD.
Paul Huge may not play on CD, although he will likely receive a ton of writing credits.
Fortus has likely been replaced by Ron to a degree.
A year ago, Ron was unsure whether he'd be featured on every CD track in some capacity. Now, he appears adamant he is on every track. Goes on to prove the track listing has been finalized, which should be a given considering the album has reportedly been completed since December.
On stage, off stage, that movie rings more true all the time. A great Spinal Tap moment was when we were playing in England two years ago. We're doing "Rocket Queen" and as we are doing the intro we see a bunch of guys bringing out these little, foot-high platforms behind us. As they are bringing them out, we are looking at each other like, "What the hell is going on?" and we go into the song and they quickly take them away. We had no idea what that was about. We found out later that we were going to have a bunch of "little people" dancing on these platforms for an extended intro to "Rocket Queen," but we were never told, so we had no clue. So we are arguing about the communication breakdown after the show, so I of course in the middle of it have one question to ask in a British accent, "Will we be doing 'Rocket Queen' tomorrow night? [instead of "Stonehenge"] And one of the guys says back [in an English voice], "No, we won't be doing fucking 'Rocket Queen'!"
That solves a mystery. Ron's referring to the Wembley shows on July 29th & 30th, 2006. The little guys entered the stage on the 30th, while Baz and Izzy were rocking out on Paradise City, with Axl backstage. I remember hearing rumors that they were supposed to appear on the 29th, but "Axl wouldn't let them."
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Re: In Search of ... Bumblefoot (A Couple Interesting GnR mentions)
How many tracks have you been working on?
I don't know... we've done so many songs and not all of them will be on the album. I don't wanna know too much about the album - I want to be surprised myself. Like even the final mixes - I haven't heard them yet![/i]" - Maximum Threshold, 04/13/07
I think that hearing the final mixes in April, 2007 would have really surprised Ron, since there wasn't any. 
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Re: In Search of ... Bumblefoot (A Couple Interesting GnR mentions)
Personally I think this article is great. You can't say it's been dumbed down if you haven't listened to all of Ron's stuff outside of GNR and not only that, he's done an excellent job in concert with GNR, I dont miss BH with him as the replacement, he was awesome on stage and crowd loves him, I've heard the screams of applause when he steps up on the stage to do a solo three times over. He is definitely incapable of dumbing things down. It's all a matter of who you like and don't like, if you like BH better then ofcourse you are going to prefer his parts still on the album but you can't just disregard Ron like he is some shitty guitarist. He comes highly recommended by one of the guitar greats and not only that, he is well respected in the guitar community.
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Re: In Search of ... Bumblefoot (A Couple Interesting GnR mentions)
Ron's a super cool guy but by no means would I want Bucket's stuff replaced. However I kind of lean toward the idea that Ron brought his own stuff to these tracks as an addition to what was already there and Bucket's will remain intact. That scenario would be ok.
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Re: In Search of ... Bumblefoot (A Couple Interesting GnR mentions)
Ron's a super cool guy but by no means would I want Bucket's stuff replaced. However I kind of lean toward the idea that Ron brought his own stuff to these tracks as an addition to what was already there and Bucket's will remain intact. That scenario would be ok.
That's what I'm thinking too.
Great interview and it's great he's talking about GNR quite openly and honestly. It was nice to see him acknowledge CD as the elephant in the room and he understands why people ask the question.
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Re: In Search of ... Bumblefoot (A Couple Interesting GnR mentions)
It's possible that all of BH's stuff is replaced, that's a scenario that is very likely. Whether or not Ron is cool or not, his stuff on there is okay by me 
I have two of his solo albums and they are fantastic.
Re: In Search of ... Bumblefoot (A Couple Interesting GnR mentions)
Gunslinger wrote:Ron's a super cool guy but by no means would I want Bucket's stuff replaced. However I kind of lean toward the idea that Ron brought his own stuff to these tracks as an addition to what was already there and Bucket's will remain intact. That scenario would be ok.
That's what I'm thinking too.
Great interview and it's great he's talking about GNR quite openly and honestly. It was nice to see him acknowledge CD as the elephant in the room and he understands why people ask the question.
he should have said "no comment" 
anyway about buckets stuff being possibly partially replaced...maybe Axl has been looking to do it for a while...the classic rock article with zoot said that axl wasnt too pleased with the porn influenced stuff, just on genereal principle...so maybe ron was kicking ass in the studio and Axl decided to drop some bucket solos for that reason alone?
anyway i think Bumble is amazing so i'm sure that he has done a fantastic job on whatever he recorded
I'm not insinuating that he sucks. However, when he cant perform certain solos properly that are on these songs, he doesn't need to be within a light year of a studio replacing those tracks.
Buckethead is at a certain level, and then there's everybody else.
Leave his material alone.
first off i dont think that Ron would attempt to duplicate note for note what BH did...nor do i think if the tables were turned that BH would do Rons stuff note for note...these guys are prodigy's they cant just do it the way its already been done, they need to leave their mark...
as for performing them properly...well they arent released so what gets finally released will be the "proper" way to play the song...until the release its a work in progress...that's been proven time and time again
bucket is definately one of a kind....but i think Ron brings something to the table that even BH doesnt have..Ron seems to be able to put a whole song together where bh is more just tearing it up as one long constant solo....but ron's material he does both lead and rhythm parts, its almost like BH feels rhythm work is beneath him? 
at least on the solo BH material that i've heard
