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#121 Re: Guns N' Roses » AXL Posting on GNR Forums! » 891 weeks ago
sandman wrote:all the people that have been predicting a prolonged "quiet period," no Better video, and the end of the CD era sure have egg on their face today.
alot of good information was provided....
1. Axl isn't just going away.
2. touring is in the plans.
3. Axl views CD as a double album, and there is at least a chance it could be released as early as Fall 2009.
4. Better video is coming in a week.
5. promotion will be stepped up.
6. Axl was not happy with the booklet, art, and promotional plans.Uhh, I wouldn't go out and start RSVP'ing man...
No offense to Axl, cause shit does happen, but keep in mind we HAVE heard "next summer", "finishing touches", "out by the end of the year", "people will hear new music this year", "March 6, 2007"...
I'm not saying he's a liar, but stuff can happen, and when it does I hope people turn around and say "that's how it goes", not another 10 years of page after page of how much of an egg suckin' chicken stealin' liar he is.
Don't start counting those chickens before they hatch, just yet.
RSVP'ing for what??? not sure what your point is. Axl didn't say anything was set in stone, nor did i imply it either.
but i can see you're taking less of a negative stance today compared to the last couple weeks.
didn't you recently say if there was a video for better we'd have seen it already? 
#122 Re: Guns N' Roses » AXL Posting on GNR Forums! » 891 weeks ago
all the people that have been predicting a prolonged "quiet period," no Better video, and the end of the CD era sure have egg on their face today.
alot of good information was provided....
1. Axl isn't just going away.
2. touring is in the plans.
3. Axl views CD as a double album, and there is at least a chance it could be released as early as Fall 2009.
4. Better video is coming in a week.
5. promotion will be stepped up.
6. Axl was not happy with the booklet, art, and promotional plans.
#123 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose/Dexter forum chat discussion thread » 891 weeks ago
awesome move by Axl. that was really cool.
i love this quote by Axl....
"Nah. Friendly banter by those with opposing views."
#124 Re: Guns N' Roses » Time magazine makes fun of the saga » 892 weeks ago
Eh... at least make it funny if you're going to poke fun at the band
. Cocaine and the new GNR is about as far away apart as it was close to the old band. The band isn't filled with rock n roll partiers or anything.. they're hired guns (I don't mean that in a bad way either)
Maybe it's funny for people who know nothing about new GNR (most people)... but it falls flat on me...
i agree, it's not even a little bit funny.
but i believe Tommy does coke.
#125 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Elimination Round 1 » 892 weeks ago
Riad. it's painful to listen to sometimes. i think the reason i like Sorry so much is partly because it's such a relief after listening to this.
#126 Re: Guns N' Roses » CD #1 Worldwide » 892 weeks ago
is there anything we can compare these firgures to? just want to put these numbers in some kind of perspective.
do we have worldwide numbers for any other albums that were released in the last 3-6 months (particularly metallica and ACDC)?
#127 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy UNDER 300,000 copies sold first week? » 892 weeks ago
GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' Lands At No. 3 On Billboard Chart - Dec. 3, 2008
GUNS N' ROSES' long-awaited new album, "Chinese Democracy", sold 261,000 copies in the United States in its first week of release (including a reported 25,000 downloads at iTunes on November 23 not counted towards the opening week) to debut at position No. 3 on The Billboard 200 chart.
Source: Blabbermouth
#128 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy UNDER 300,000 copies sold first week? » 893 weeks ago
we have no idea what Axl's, GnR's, Best Buy's, or the label's expectations are. so instead, people are choosing to use a bunch of Axl die-hards' expectations. does this really make any sense???
the public doesn't know who is in this band. but that doesn't matter...what matters is that they know who ISN"T in this band. and axl is kind of an unpopular figure. many people are root against him.
gnr is still a huge band. Axl is a mega-star. but of course this "band" is not on top of the world. and first week sales of this album, no matter what they are, doesn't change any of this.
now if there was a reunion, that would be a different story.
#129 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy UNDER 300,000 copies sold first week? » 893 weeks ago
killingvector wrote:Let's look at the long range numbers before declaring the album a bomb and then perhaps there will be some data indicating why not enough people were interested.
I do agree that more time is needed before deeming it a complete failure. Yeah the first week numbers are a huge disappointment and definitely lowers the previous expectations of the band name, but we have to see if its capable of sustaining the numbers it has. If it can remain a bit steady and only drop down to 200-250k the second week, and a slight drop 3rd week, its not too bad. If it plummets the 2nd week to anything below 100k, then yes it bombed.
Everything is gonna ride on Better. The 2nd single deserves a chance to take off.
Regarding Best Buy....there's no way in hell they paid 9 bucks a cd when they know damn good and well a ton of those copies are gonna have to be unloaded for $5.99 at some point. If the 9 bucks a copy figure is true, I'm not surprised they are on the verge of financial catastrophe.
james - didn't you say you only expected the album to sell about 250K in week 1? so how can you call 350K a "huge disappointment"?
if this album sells in the neighborhood of what Death Magnetic sells, than it's done about as well as you could hope in today's market. there are alot of different factors going with both albums, but let's keep it simple....metallica is one of the biggest bands in the world. this was their first release in 5 years and was widely described as an "old school" record. the record their long-time fans have wanted for years. it got good reviews and metallica promoted the fuckin hell out of it.
i think total sales of CD compared to DM is a good benchmark. and it's one that cannot be determined for several months.
#130 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy UNDER 300,000 copies sold first week? » 893 weeks ago
Neemo's figures actually make sense.
let's say it was 1.5 million copies at $8 each. that's $12M up front.
at $12 each, they break even at 1 million records sold. anything on top of that is pure profit.
if they just break even on the deal itself, they are WAY ahead. because what you cannot put a dollar figure on is the marketing benefits. specifically:
1. the publicity of having a major exclusive deal.
2. the added sales from having people visit their stores to buy the album.
i've never seen Best Buy's budget, but this may just be a portion of their advertising expenses.
