Some of the themes(well, all of them actually) are going to be worked on this week, so if your skin happens to disappear or look different, its not a glitch.

Audioslave- Cochise

Here's the way I see the "nutswingers" and the "whiners".

*no offense intended. Just using those as terms for this discussion*

a nutswinger wishes for positive things to happen so much that even if there's a hint of "negativity", they either deny it exists, or just brush it under the rug and move on to the next topic. Or argue with a whiner.Or they will see something positive in anything(a specific member at mygnr could be mentioned, but I wont).

the whiners have been skeptical for so long, that when something that can even be considered remotely positive happens, that realistic approach kicks in just on instinct.

These two sides can debate rationally most of the time, and the two sides only "unite" when something monumentally positive happens, like the 06 and 07 leaks. Specifically the 06 leaks. It only takes something like the Axl-Slash press release to drive them apart again.

In my opinion, there's not much difference between both sides. Just the approach is different.

true, but you told your members you were taking it offline. You didn't leave a bunch of people hanging and then ignore all of them for over a month. Anytime a GNR site goes down, people are kept in the loop. HTGTH goes down, Jarmo is telling people the status at mygnr. mygnr goes down, madison(or someone else) is at HTGTH telling people whats happening. newguns got hacked(or some other technical crap), they immediately let their members know whats going on.

His handling of it is so disrespectful and inexcusable, its laughable that he is trying to pin the blame on others.

I've heard how he's trying to draw attention to himself at HTGTH. I'm not being sucked in to his game. He just wants to be a hot topic and create a little controversy so he can get his site some attention.

I dont see his point in starting it again anyways. He clearly has no respect towards anyone that was there, so why relaunch? To fuck people over again? Like I said, I'm not interested. He can find another group of people to build the site up so he can toss it in the garbage again for a few months.

I just want to move on. Everyone did everything they could to communicate with him and keep the site going, but he never said a word. So we have moved on without him.

He can do whatever he wants. He can knock ROV offline every other day for all I care. I just know I wont be involved in any aspect of it.

and you didn't record the last half of it?:haha:

Ah, it'll surface soon. I've been dying to hear this. I hope Axl isn't buried in the mix.