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#301 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl and The Boss.... » 226 weeks ago

Axl is addicted to the apex fallacy.

Victory or Death is a nice sentiment and summarized his rise to fame very well. But survival and most gains are also a victory.

Unfortunately ignorance and luxury has isolated him from these truths. Now laziness and inaction dominate, again bolstered from the reunion windfall.

He could finish the back of his career strong. In all likelihood, he’ll finish it on the couch.

Yes, cool vid.

#302 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reelz - Axl Rose: Guns N' Roses Frontman » 226 weeks ago

Thanks for the full quote Blackstar.

I get the creative impulse to destroy but yes, it’s annoying just like erasing This I Love in 2000 was.

And it all underscores the need for all of the material available to leak for archival purposes.

#303 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl to appear in Scobby Doo on Feb 25th. » 226 weeks ago

I wish Axl would do a children’s album.

Or any album.

#304 Re: The Sunset Strip » Chris Cornell - No One Sings Like You Anymore Vol. 1 » 227 weeks ago

James wrote:

Split the profits evenly.

14 14 14

I’m unfamiliar to who deserves credit for what but no Chris Cornell, no Guns n’ Roses.

I know music doesn’t sell for shit these days and Soundgarden isn’t exactly a huge act but $300k? For what? Permission to use “I was in Soundgarden” on your club show tour?

#305 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reelz - Axl Rose: Guns N' Roses Frontman » 227 weeks ago

I’ve never seen the claim that it was scrapped because he was watching porn. Where/who is that from?

#306 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses List of Excuses (1986-Present) » 229 weeks ago

Yeah, you’re probably right.

Or, they could’ve found Axl in his 2001 mood where he was gracious and grateful and did a good job managing it. He could’ve rehabilitated his image.

I guess I always hope for the best for the guy. We’ve all got that soft spot still.

¯\_(?)_/¯

#307 Re: Guns N' Roses » Top 5 Responsible for New GNR’s failure » 229 weeks ago

And as far as the appetite not being there, I disagree.

2002-2004 was a wave of 80s nostalgia. All Axl had to do was show up. I’d even say 2005-onwards was more or less there for the taking. The age of one genre dominating the airwaves was over.

It could’ve been finding a place in a new era but instead he sat on his hands. And Better is, was, and will be catchy as hell.

And right now it could be just appreciating your fans and throwing them bones but I think what’s gonna happen is Axl’s gonna hold the ball until time expires so the Lebeis’ can cash in on his vault after he kicks the bucket.

What a waste.

#308 Re: Guns N' Roses » Top 5 Responsible for New GNR’s failure » 229 weeks ago

James wrote:
Wagszilla wrote:
James wrote:

1. Label politics

I’m open minded but I don’t agree.

Axl was either far too comfortable playing their game or lacked any sort of courage to take a stand.

Other acts have gotten the short shrift because of new acts coming on the scene. Other acts have gone with legal action to get some of their integrity and rights back. Other acts have called foul over industry practices. Other acts have managed to suck it up and take the hit and keep pressing on.

A contributing factor? Sure.

At the end of the day, he got $14m, countless industry people working on his behalf, etc. etc.

It’s a hard sell for me, barring specifics.

Who gets the blame for the Ezrin fiasco which essentially cluster fucked the project?

Axl thought it was ready. After listening to the Village Sessions I agree. Ezrin had valid points....but there IS an album ready to go. It was lacking a Jungle or SCOM but it was also lacking this 7 years later.

While we don't know the specifics of 2002, doesn't the label shoulder some of the blame here? It went from being ready to don't bother waiting.

The question is label politics and all we have to go off there is what Bob Ezrin told Jimmy Iovine and led Jimmy to pull back on the accelerator.

We’ve also vague comments (NYT) about turnover of people in Geffen —> Interscope —> Universal which is why I’m open minded. Perhaps there’s more dirt under the fingernails there but as of now the lions share of the burden falls onto Axl.

He wanted to turn in an album once, 2000. When he did it was the more stripped down act, perfectly fine. But what did he look like when he popped up in 2001? Like Axl Rose, the millionaire has-been and not like Axl Rose, the rockstar. I know Reebok track pants were in vogue in 2001 but that Rio show is just one big mess. You can’t make up for it with a Chris Jericho rave shirt and some Oakleys.

He finally looked the part in Dec 01. That’s when the launch sequence should have been activated. Fuck you, the missile is going out. He looked cool. The band? Circus freaks but he looked like the ringmaster. Do it, feast or famine, victory or death.

Instead he got a little chubby again and retreated into giant jerseys pandering to audiences like an asshole comedian in 2002. And backing up, it was Axl Rose who never showed up to rehearsals just like it was Axl Rose Inc. that couldn’t get an album released. This is your job. Do it, make it happen. I don’t care about security guards at the VMAs. Figure out how to make that happen, prepare so you don’t have stage fright, whatever. Axl is a “classic case” of a once genius ruining himself through his own hubris.

If the record company was cock blocking him so hard, then do more than say, a vague Rolling Stone piece as your “evidence” the album is ready. And again, he only did this in 2000.

After the abortion in 2002 he came back with Merck as his festival barker pulling a Cyberpunk 2077 over promising an album release when everyone knew that wasn’t happening.

At the end of the day, it’s at least 6 solid years of Axl sitting on his ass leaving everyone to wonder what’s going on. Nothing, it turns out.

I’m sure there are people in the know who can add their additional “Axl diva story” from 2001-2002 as well. I’ve heard some doozies.

I’m half in a mood to put the record company at 4 or 5 instead of Axl’s mentally deficient friend but when you bully your own band and your own fan base well you get what you deserve.

#309 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses List of Excuses (1986-Present) » 229 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

The best thing NewGNR ever did was not doing Woodstock '99.

I mean who knows what would’ve happened but it could’ve either:

(1) Moved forward the timetable on the collapse of New GNR
(2) Catapulted them to fame. Imagine if they play a couple good songs, Axl is in shape vs bloated like in Rio. It could’ve created mystique. “Well one thing about Woodstock 99 that was actually promising was...”

#310 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses List of Excuses (1986-Present) » 229 weeks ago

slashsfro wrote:

Wasn't a tour in 2000 or 2001 cancelled because Axl had no idea it had been booked?

2001 and 2002.

The 2001 tour had been booked by Goldstein without Axl’s go-ahead, I guess.

The 2002 tour had supposedly been booked by the record company to make money. Axl wasn’t happy because he wanted to finish the album instead of touring.

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