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#3371 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R/CD Promotion Materials » 868 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

What the hell is wrong with that promo? It's basically what we saw a couple weeks ago that everyone was happy about. It's a TV sport for CD. What bands even do this kind of promo?

U2 for one. Alot of bands do it. Bigbri.  Soul Asylum did it back in the 90's so it's far from original but that's o.k.  I think the commercials are cool.  These tv ads are teasers.  They're quick, they're flashey,  they grab your attention.  For most people who aren't hardcore fans will say "Did that just say new Guns N' Roses?" the commercials are serving their purpose. What did people really expect?

#3372 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy First Tour Dates (FAKE) » 870 weeks ago

Guarenteed that Winnipeg date is fake. No way they'd kick of the tour in Canada unless it's to pull a *cough* staged *cough* No show to insight a  "classic" Gn'R style riot to kick off the tour ala Vancouver 2002.   hahaha. that's the only way they'd start it in Canada, and no offence to Moreblack or anyone from Winnipeg but Winnipeg? C'mon. hardly your tour kickoff location. No way.

#3373 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 870 weeks ago

But just for the recrod I have posted I think the song sounds better than the leak and I have also said I like hearing it on radio so it's not like I'm here to bash.

#3374 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 870 weeks ago

A Private Eye wrote:

In all seriousness Bono, who's saying the productions crappy? Besides the layering of vocals which I can see turning some people off, what's wrong with the production, it sounds fine to me?

Me for one. The dj at Zed 99(that's the biggest rock station around here out of 4) who I talked to yesterday brought it up without any mention from me. He felt it's a mess of production which is what I think. Too many ideas floating around in one song. It's somethng I've always said about the new material and when others start echoing that opinion without any influence from me I know there's something to it. At least to some.  Yes it sounds better than the leak but the vocal layers, the synth going on it just sounds messy. It's too busy. My brother feels the same. Most people I've talked to who don't like it think the vocals aren't good. I think that has alot to do with the layering of vocals.  It's crappy. It makes the song sound artificial to alot of people.  I can't post all the names and photos of people I've talked to to prove it to you guys that there are people out there who legitimately don't like it. But going from the past I've been pretty damn objective when it comes to these things. Better has always gotten a pretty decent response when I've played it in the bars. Chinese Democracy never got anything good in response.  My posts on this are pretty consistent with the reaction the song has gotten in the past when I've played it so people are gonna have to either believe I'm being honest or tell me to fuck off cause I'm a  lier. Whatever.  So far t is what it is in this area. It's not fucking Los Angeles. I can't post what they think in LA.

#3375 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 870 weeks ago

BLS-Pride wrote:

So far on my end everything has been positive and Im no nutswinger so I wouldnt lie to make the band look better.

Nor would I lie to make the band look bad which if nobody has noticed yet has really pissed me off that anyone on this  site would even suggest such a thing.

#3376 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 870 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:

I'm in shock that not one person I've talked to (GNR fan or not) hasn't said anything negative about the song and yet every person you talk to does. Law of averages I guess.

And if you'd read I never said everyone I talked to thinks it sucks. I said the vast majority of them. The first day it was fairly split but as time went on(day 3 now) it's lopsided towards the negative. This is exactly what I'm talking about. I come in and say what I've heard and the moment I mention even one person not likeing it I'm exagerating the point. My God. I NEVER said everyone I talked to dislikes the song.

#3377 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 870 weeks ago

Z99 central Alberta's rock station played the song 6 times over a 12 hour period on Wednesday. Over 9 hours yesterdy I heard it once, today over 9 hours I never heard it once nor did they mention it. Funny enough I heard PC once and Patience once.  Like I said I can't report what I don't hear or see. Here in Red Deer the song has gotten pretty poor reviews and has almost seemingly dropped off the radio's play list in ony 3 days. WTF?  I listen to the radio all day long in the ruck so this isn't a  case of bad timeing either.

I honestly think Better will do much better as a single than this song. I'm not looking to rain on anyone's parade. It seems a huge majority of people suddenly dont' want to hear the flip side. It's either "Everyone I talked to loves the song and they say why. People who don't like it didn't like it before they heard and have no real basis for their arguement". If that's not what you're going to post than you might as well keep your mouth shut? Is that what I'm understanding here?  Seriously if it's gonna be like that  than this place has lost all meaning of what the site is about.

Why the fuck would I come in here to twist thinsg to my view? Exagerate the negative side?  yeah after all these years that's exactly what I want to do. Try my best to bring you guys down.

#3378 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 870 weeks ago

CrimeSlunkScene wrote:

There's been a lot of positive response, so stop trying to make it sound like something it's not.

Some like it, some don't.

But don't even try and say that the general reactions to the song have been negative because that's not true.

Actually yeah it is true from where I'm standing. You guys don't like the fact that I haven't heard many positive reviews. I can only report what I've heard. Some postive yes but after three days now it's a far cry from the negative ones. And like I said most people I've talked to don't give a flying fuck who's in or who's out.  The people I've talked to want to hear something good regardless of what band it is or who's in it.  The complaints I'm hearing are production sucks and vocally they don't like it.  How much more in depth should they go.  The opinions of most I've talked to seem to be pretty much how I feel. Yet my opinions are legit(maybe not to some of you) but for anyone who doesn't live and die on a  Gn'R message board they're minds are already made up or they're fucking morons as someone put it? That' or I'm just a  fucking lier and I'm making shit up right?   The general reactions to these songs ARE NEGATIVE from what I've heard. I wish I could say something else  but I can't.  yeah there will be some close minded fools who don't care becasue Slash isn't in the band but most listeners in this world don't care either way who's in the band. They'll take what's given to them if it's something they like so this "minds are already made up" stuff isn't gonna fly for all negative responses.

#3379 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 870 weeks ago

war wrote:

actually the bad reviews are, without a doubt, coming from older people that haven't gotten over the breakup of the old band and that wait for the album.

i have been polling people at the college i work at.

thes students like the song the most, almost 100 percent of them and the ones that didn't care were not into rock at all.

most of the older people liked it as well but not as predominately.

Are you fucking kiding? yeah only old people who are resentful of the old band's break up would review this poorly roll I mean the majority of earths population was devestated when Gn'R broke up. Too many of them unable to move on. Please. the only people who haven't gotten over the old band's break up are people who frequent Gn'R messge boards. most people dont' give a shit. Nice unbiased polling 16

By all means Bigbri enjoy it. I just think that people on Gn'R sites  better be prepared to hear alot of HONEST negative feedback.  The fact is most people don't care one way or the other but if given the choice over something they'd like or something they wouldn't like they'll take the thing they like.  I just find it pretty offensive and lacking in common sense really to say that the only way anyone could dislike these songs is because the've already made up their minds and aren't willing to give the songs a chance.  I know that didn't come from you, I'm just saying it in general.

Like I said I enjoy hearing it on radio but I think it's pretty clear the response to the song is pretty underwhelming. We'll know for sure in the coming weeks. more so in the coming months. We'll see if the songs have any staying power or if they simply fade away as quickly as a new Velvet Revolver single.

#3380 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Starts Now! » 870 weeks ago

madagas wrote:

The album isn't out yet, Slash could still be brought in to overdub some guitar..... For good and bad, at least Axl had the nuts to finally let go. I hope he dumps everything else from the sessions fairly soon, then wipes the slate clean.:peace:

16 If it happened it woudln't be all that shocking. In fact I think alot of us would give a huge sigh of relief that thinsg were back to normal 14 14

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