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#4211 Re: The Garden » McCain guarantees victory » 880 weeks ago

What do we expect? We have a monetary system built on credit, which means there will never be enough money in circulation to pay off the interest, which again means a certain percentage of the population will go bankrupt each year. They have to, it's built into the system.

Then you have the problem with corporations that have to live off this credit. Bad news for anyone looking for a job. A company can't wait to replace you with a machine or streamlining their organization so they can fire more people. Again it's not a choice for them. In a technological competitive market the end line will be that almost 0 humans are needed to do anything.

Today we have a situation where third world countries are making everything we use and consume, because that's cheaper since they're effectively our slaves under threat of either military might or economic ruin. Nobody's really doing anything in the west anymore. Acting, accounting, marketing, consulting, managing. It's bullshit, just a game. And in the rare instances where we're actually making something it's basically a couple of guys handling machines.

We take their shit and they get some fancy overpriced weapons and entertainment toys back. Then we all go let's pretend and divide our resources in some made up charade where everybody has to work their asses off to grab a part of the insufficient debt system we call money.

#4212 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses to release Chinese Democracy single » 881 weeks ago

Chinese Democracy has gone through major changes over the years. The first leak was a major improvement on the perception on what at the time was no more than a mediocre title track to most of fans.

And now it has been pushed even further. The opening drums adds that epic aspect to the song. I could swear Axl must have recorded those in heaven, and I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did. Then come the real juice. The rythm guitar presented by Bumble brings on the table that one thing I have always missed: The AFD feel.

Gritty, dirty and sleazy. That was the trademark of the guitar playing in old Guns for me. After a killer opening riff you would always have that groovy, playfull chords under Axls powerful vocals. It was one of the things that seperated them from generity.

And now it's back. Not the same in any way of course, thank god, but it's got that feel of a guitarplayer that knows what I'm talking about, making his version of it.

If this song speaks for the rest of the album I think we could actually be in for a little suprise.

#4213 Re: The Sunset Strip » The SAW Thread » 881 weeks ago

I saw Jason 9.

Part 5, of anything, is a cakewalk after that.

#4214 Re: Guns N' Roses » Not So Surreal Feeling... » 881 weeks ago

I feel like I'm on the outside looking in. For me it's been nearly ten years now. Actively waiting for most of them. Checking message boards, hoping for 'inside information' and vague descriptions of what eventually became mythical songs.

Each passing event built more anticipation. Nothing was allowed to break the illusion. "Oh, they're just live songs. They'll sound much better on the album. Hell, they probably won't even be on the album. This is just b-material that they're showcasing at the worlds largest rock festival after 7 years of silence." "Oh, they are just demos, unfinished demos."

Please.

I don't know how many times I was standing there in the record store, in my mind. Imagining the event. Picturing scenarios, a small touch on future feelings, dreams.

Over and over it has played through my mind. Then when it actually happened, I realized, there is no event.

I've already been there. Now all that is left is a collection of songs I've heard for years. All representing different periods and emotional states of my life. A fragmented document supposed to be the ultimate culmination of all hopes and dreams over the years. In the end it should be good, very good, by all means. And at times, a touch of greatness. But of course nothing like the things I used to imagine. And that is kinda sad.

Now I guess I'm just waiting for everybody else to come along, to share in the feeling that I built to mountainous heights over the years, then broke down piece by piece on the constant search for 'anything new, anything'.

It reminds me of greek tragedies. My dedication and love ultimately ruined the experience. There is no cake left for the hardcore fan, just scraps.

#4215 Re: The Garden » USA vs. US » 881 weeks ago

Makes little difference to us what we call it, yes.

The law however...is very particular in these matters.

#4216 Re: The Garden » Colin Powell endorses Obama... » 882 weeks ago

tejastech08 wrote:

Pollux, what does CFR stand for? I Googled it and came up with something called the Council on Foreign Relations. Guess who else is a member? John McCain. And actually, Wikipedia does not list Obama as a current (or historical) member. However, the CFR website has a member profile for Obama. Interestingly, Colin Powell and Tom Brokaw are both listed as members. So if Obama, McCain, and Powell are all members, WTF does being loyal to the CFR have to do with it, Pollux? McCain is also involved in it, so it has nothing to do with that.

Yes, it stands for Council On Foreign Relations. Sorry for not clarifying, I just find it funny that nobody knows about it. It's like the club for the political and financial elite. You'll have a harder time finding somebody in high office who is not a member, than those that are.

Everybody's a member, so then it's no issue to you! 14

I find that a bit comical, please excuse me.

But I see your point. McCain and Obama are both members, or affiliated if you will. So to a guy like Powell it really doesn't matter, they both fit the glove. Even still he chooses to side with the guy from the other party.

You may say that has nothing to do with it, and I'm inclined to believe you, but the focal point still remains: Both candidates and their inner circles are all heavily connected with this 'club'. And you don't even know about it! Now consider what they talk about in that room on Park Avenue, and the easiness for a republican to side with a democrat becomes painfully clear.

#4217 Re: The Garden » Colin Powell endorses Obama... » 882 weeks ago

Yes and no. It is open in the way that you can check their membership, read minutes of selected meetings and check out various information and policies on their website and affiliated publication, 'Foreign Affairs'.

Most of their members are open about it, and their names will appear on their members list. They do however, by their own admittance, offer to conceal membership in times of need. This has become a more used tactic the last decades, following their 'exposure' in the late 70s. There is also an unspoken rule that 'what is said here stays here'. Notable in the fact that a range of directors of all the major news publications in the country have been members, yet didn't produce more than a grenade wounded handful of articles about them all the way up to the 70s. The fact that you, a reasonably up to date human being knows so little about them further attest to that fact. This is, after all, the playground of some of the most powerful and influental men in the United States.

So I guess you can say they are an officially open organization, but in reality carries a more clandestine nature.

Carter and Bush Sr. lost their elections partly because they were so heavily associated with this organization.
Reagan won the election partly because of his opposition to it. Ironic of course since he ended up with H.W. as VP and CFR members in the hundreds in his subsequent administration.

Obama is not an official member. His wife however is on the Board of Directors on the CFR Chicago branch, and when asked about it, he says they've had meetings and that he likes them, but that he does not know if he's a member. In any case the connection is obviously there, and will be further affirmed when he nominates at least 500 members to his coming administration (my personal prediction).

#4218 Re: The Garden » Colin Powell endorses Obama... » 882 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Polluxlm, I'm very interested in this CFR you reference.  I've heard others on the internet reference it as well.  If you have a link that outlines what it is believed to be, I'd appreciate it.

There are no definitive links that I know of. I've gotten most of my information from a variety of books dealing with those things in general.

These are the basics:

Founded in the early 1920s with Rockefeller and Morgan money. The American counterpart of the British 'Royal Institute On International Affairs', funded and thought up by the Milner/Rhodes group, sometimes referenced as the 'Round Table Groups', although that is a somewhat narrow label.

Officially their purpose is to comment on US foreign policy, making suggestions. But with every Secretary of State since WWII as a member, and in recent years occupying as much as 500 official posts in democratic as well as republican administrations, the accurate thing to say is that they make and shape US foreign policy. A closer look at the policies enacted in this period and the parallell they draw to CFR doctrine and statements further strenghtens that notion.

To make a long story short they are belivers in a 'one world', with basis in the works of Marx, Fabian and Leo Strauss. Well known internationalists that thinks the nation state is obsolete, and that the human race needs a more centralized structure to survive.

The most interesting thing about the organization is that they are supporters of socialism and communism, all the while some of their most prominent members and supporters are what most people would call die hard capitalists.

What I and others like me believe to be their real purpose is to get all the top government people and those likely to be them in the future together on a regular basis as to shape their opinions on how to run the world.

Well known CFR members include:

Henry Kissinger
Zbigniew Breszinski
Allan Dulles
George H.W Bush
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton
Dick Cheney
David Rockefeller
John McCain
Barack Obama

#4219 Re: The Garden » Colin Powell endorses Obama... » 882 weeks ago

Further goes to show that these guys are ultimately loyal to the CFR and other elitist organizations, not the party.

#4220 Re: The Garden » Sarkozy, Medvedev Call for New European Security Pact » 882 weeks ago

Ha! This just came out of nowhere didn't it. No coincidence at all.

As I've said, they're gone utilize every crisis to 'bond' us more together. When is that EU Police due? Going to be real fun! People cry about the financial crisis while the leaders are out committing treason! I like it, real savy.

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