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Re: Slash talks to Kerrang about Weiland's departure
I can't see this posted anywhere else unless it was buried in another thread that I couldn't see, (if it is mods feel free to delete this).
Apparantly there was an article in Kerrang from an interview they did with Slash. I found this over at HTGTH and it was posted (presumably transcribed) by Meanbone.
Slash reveals the truth behind Scott's departure and what the future holds for VR
When Scott strode up the mircophone and informed a sold-out Glasgow SECC that "they were watching something special - the last tour by VR" his bandmates, Slash, Duff, Matt and Dave all stood back and stared at each other. To the casual observer this was shock, pure and simple, but to those privy to the inside workings of the band, this was actually an annoucement that made everyone but the singers lives a good eal easier. Because those four men already knew what Scott didn't - that he was already out the band.
"he didn'tknow that we were already planning on extraditing him" says Slash "when we started touring the second record, it just felt like we were losing Scott as far as out connection went. During the tour with Alice in Chains [in august 07], he was just out to lunch. When he came back, he was supposed to go to rehab, so we postponed our Austrailian tour but he didn't really go to rehab. That was the final blow. we had a lot of commitments, like the tour in the UK, which we didn't want to go back on, so we wanted to finish those before telling him."
Here, Slash reveals the details of Scott's departure, Exclusively to Kerrang!
Was the split with Weiland difficult?
No, not really. at this point everybody's very relieved that we've got past it because, now he's not around we can consentrate on getting somebody into the fold that we can rely on, he's been talking about rejoining STP as well, so we told him, 'cool go jam with STP in the summer and we'll work on the album, we said that [before the split] because we didn't think there'd be anything going on with him after the summer anyway.
That must have made the relantionship complicated between you on your last tour
We basically didn't speak a word that whole time, we gave him the cold shoulder in the UK like nobody's business. There were a couple of arguements around the stage but, other than that, nobody spoke to him, i imagine he was quite uncomfortable. No wonder he didn't have a good time, then, he told everyone in Glasgow that the whole band was over. we were like 'Oh well, i guess we've got a surprise coming for you, Scott'
So it end didn't end on good term, then?
It wasn't malicious. the whole thing was basically just a lot more difficult that we've made it sound for the last few years
If you weren't speaking, did that make travelling together hard?
For the most part, i don't really remember seeing much of him, We flew to Dubai together, i think, when we played recently, well i think i remember him being on the plane, anyway. we sort of got used to him not being around. He's never really been part of the mechanics of the group - he's always been separate and doing his own little thing
Was it irratating that the singer in your band wouldn't commit to actually being in the band?
I'm really easy-going and i'll make allowances for whatever people need. But there is the other side of it too and, when you're dealing with someone who is too high-maintenance to hang out with the guys in the trenches, then there are problems
Did that feel like a snub to you?
I didn't take it personally but i don't want to dwell on it too much, there was a point where he had certain requirements - he need this to deal with things, then that - and you just get to a point where you think, whatever, i'd like to have somebody up there who's comfortable enough and secure enough with himself to be the frontman without feeling that he's being threatened by the other guys. Really, though i don't understand what goes on with these people!
Do you think Weiland was threatened by your shared history with Duff and Matt in GNR?
There was some underlying fucking theme that was going on but i'd be lying if i said i could put my finger exactly on it. i definatly get the feeling there was some sort of resentment going on
There was a rumour that Weiland was called 'J.A' - Junior Axl - By the band behind he back, is there any truth in that?
No, i never called him that, there were a few similarities though. what became really irritating was that i had the same problem with Scott as i had when i toured with Axl. i just couldn't get the guy onstage on time. That i can't accept. i will not do it again. i will not be in a situation where a guy is making the audience wait half an hour or an hour or more. it's criminal, i don't know who someone thinks he is when tries to get away with that sort of thing
You spoke about Weiland 'Erratic Behavior' and his 'Personal Problems' when you annouced his departure, What did you mean by that?
Oh man, that a broad statement isn't it? when it comes to those things, i don't want to speak badly of him because i don't want that negative energy going back and forth, basically, we're done. i don't need to air any dirty laundry about him. We had a good run and there are some good songs in there. We had some magic moments but the bad outweighted the good
Did Weiland's plans the Reunite with STP have any bearing on his exit?
It wasn't the STP thing at all. at the end of the day, he wanted the glory of going back to STP anyway, i think he thought we were going to wait around for him until the end of the summer but, instead we thoughts, Just go, We'll see how those guys fare with you
You seem to be cursed when it comes to singers...
I know, it figures, at this point, three times charmed right? We're looking forward to finding a new singer, though, and we're in a much stronger posistion to do that than when we started. Now, at least people know what we're doing, They know we're a rock 'n' roll band and that we're sucessful enough that you're going to have to be on your game if you're going to hook up with us. I just want to find this guy so we can write some songs.
Are you working with singers at the moment?
We had thought about working with someone else for the UK tour but there wasn't really enough time to break someone in for that. We're entertaining a couple of different ideas. There has been alot of interest, so we're working our way through what we like and what we don't like. I'm not going to make any rash decisions, it's nice that people are interested, though, it's 50 percent fate and 50 percent hard work and tenacity trying to find the right guy for the band. We've got the hard work and tenacity down, but, as far as fate is concerned, we'll just have to see.
Re: Slash talks to Kerrang about Weiland's departure
wow....looks like it'd been doomed for a while
and looks like they are far from getting a new singer...we have to wait a year before anything happens, also this tour really closes the door on a reunion that some of us guessed at considering the circumstances surrounding both bands
i hope they find someone that works out...i'm sure they will, and hopefully the new singer satisfies a larger portion of the gnr fanbase
Re: Slash talks to Kerrang about Weiland's departure
It looks like things were fucked up there for a while (no doubt fueled by poor album sales), and the guys have a lot of growing up to do all round. What a childish way to act; giving Weiland the cold shoulder until he quit... What are they, 16 year old girls at cheerleading practice?
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Re: Slash talks to Kerrang about Weiland's departure
Wow, Slash sounds really bitter about this. Especially when he's been apologetic about how he dissed Axl after leaving GN'R. Now he's dissing Scott.
It just sounds like they were really over ending up having to go through with Scott what they'd already been through with Axl.
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Re: Slash talks to Kerrang about Weiland's departure
I am glad Slash is coming out an talking about what when on behind the scenes, I want to hear their side of it. I don't think he's dissing Scott here, he's telling us what went on that he and the band didn't like. Just like when you have a marital situation, there is always something that one or both people are doing to cause the friction.
As far as people saying GNR reunion, not after this article. Slash will not put up with being late and Axl is king of being late up to this day, judging by Slash saying it's criminal to do that to an audience, no reunion is gonna happen because Axl will never change..
I don't want to turn this into a reunion thread but when I saw that comment, now we know where Slash's head is at.
Re: Slash talks to Kerrang about Weiland's departure
As far as people saying GNR reunion, not after this article. Slash will not put up with being late and Axl is king of being late up to this day, judging by Slash saying it's criminal to do that to an audience, no reunion is gonna happen because Axl will never change..
I don't want to turn this into a reunion thread but when I saw that comment, now we know where Slash's head is at.
That was the key quote for me as well. I didn't want to be the one to post it, but it's obvious that even if somehow a reunion happened, you better get to one of the first shows because the last ones likely won't happen unless Axl is so broke that he has to play "by the rules". After 20 years, I think it's safe to say Axl will always go on when Axl is good and ready to go on.
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Re: Slash talks to Kerrang about Weiland's departure
Wow, Slash sounds really bitter about this. Especially when he's been apologetic about how he dissed Axl after leaving GN'R. Now he's dissing Scott.
It just sounds like they were really over ending up having to go through with Scott what they'd already been through with Axl.
Do you think he's bitter? More tired of it all to me. He doesn't seem eager to start a war of words with Scott, Scott is much more asinine than Slash anyway and the response is likely to be a whole lot more venomous.
Regarding Scott, just remember STP ended with the entire band moving off together after Dan and Scott got into a ruck over Scott's inability to get clean. This all sounds sadly like another unit we tend to go on about 'round these parts.
I bet the rest of STP are watching and listening closely....
By the way, any word on Mary in all of this? Is she still with Scott if he's been back running around off his face again?
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Re: Slash talks to Kerrang about Weiland's departure
That was the key quote for me as well. I didn't want to be the one to post it, but it's obvious that even if somehow a reunion happened, you better get to one of the first shows because the last ones likely won't happen unless Axl is so broke that he has to play "by the rules". After 20 years, I think it's safe to say Axl will always go on when Axl is good and ready to go on.
Lat time I saw Axl in Dublin he came on bang on 8pm and as far as I recall for most of the rest of the tour he was less than an hour late on which is good for him. Maybe he's learned his lesson...
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Re: Slash talks to Kerrang about Weiland's departure
I agree. But just to play devil's advocate...I did notice in slash's book that he was pissed at axl for cancelling shows and going on late etc without cause. If axl was able to make slash understand his need for waits then it might work perhaps. (As i understand it for Axl its cos the songs are emotional and so is he , and he has to be in the right frame of mind to give his best and not just be a machine pumping out words.). Also remember slash left after years of that abuse, and at tiems when the axl antics were a lot worse than they are these days. So if he didn't like it from Axl, no way he is going to want it from scott. I'm not saying there will be a reunion. I'm just saying I can see a possible future where a few gigs are played one day faroff. Its clear in the book that slash's only problems with axl are really about the cancelling of gigs, and other things he thinks are disrespectful.