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Neemo
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Re: Judge Rules that 4-Year-Old Can Be Sued

Neemo wrote:

4-Year-Old Can Be Sued, Judge Rules in Bike Case
By ALAN FEUER
Published: October 28, 2010

Citing cases dating back as far as 1928, a judge has ruled that a young girl accused of running down an elderly woman while racing a bicycle with training wheels on a Manhattan sidewalk two years ago can be sued for negligence.

The ruling by the judge, Justice Paul Wooten of State Supreme Court in Manhattan, did not find that the girl was liable, but merely permitted a lawsuit brought against her, another boy and their parents to move forward.

The suit that Justice Wooten allowed to proceed claims that in April 2009, Juliet Breitman and Jacob Kohn, who were both 4, were racing their bicycles, under the supervision of their mothers, Dana Breitman and Rachel Kohn, on the sidewalk of a building on East 52nd Street. At some point in the race, they struck an 87-year-old woman named Claire Menagh, who was walking in front of the building and, according to the complaint, was “seriously and severely injured,” suffering a hip fracture that required surgery. She died three weeks later.

Her estate sued the children and their mothers, claiming they had acted negligently during the accident. In a response, Juliet’s lawyer, James P. Tyrie, argued that the girl was not “engaged in an adult activity” at the time of the accident — “She was riding her bicycle with training wheels under the supervision of her mother” — and was too young to be held liable for negligence.

In legal papers, Mr. Tyrie added, “Courts have held that an infant under the age of 4 is conclusively presumed to be incapable of negligence.” (Rachel and Jacob Kohn did not seek to dismiss the case against them.)

But Justice Wooten declined to stretch that rule to children over 4. On Oct. 1, he rejected a motion to dismiss the case because of Juliet’s age, noting that she was three months shy of turning 5 when Ms. Menagh was struck, and thus old enough to be sued.

Mr. Tyrie “correctly notes that infants under the age of 4 are conclusively presumed incapable of negligence,” Justice Wooten wrote in his decision, referring to the 1928 case. “Juliet Breitman, however, was over the age of 4 at the time of the subject incident. For infants above the age of 4, there is no bright-line rule.”

The New York Law Journal reported the decision on Thursday.

Mr. Tyrie had also argued that Juliet should not be held liable because her mother was present; Justice Wooten disagreed.

“A parent’s presence alone does not give a reasonable child carte blanche to engage in risky behavior such as running across a street,” the judge wrote. He added that any “reasonably prudent child,” who presumably has been told to look both ways before crossing a street, should know that dashing out without looking is dangerous, with or without a parent there. The crucial factor is whether the parent encourages the risky behavior; if so, the child should not be held accountable.

In Ms. Menagh’s case, however, there was nothing to indicate that Juliet’s mother “had any active role in the alleged incident, only that the mother was ‘supervising,’ a term that is too vague to hold meaning here,” he wrote. He concluded that there was no evidence of Juliet’s “lack of intelligence or maturity” or anything to “indicate that another child of similar age and capacity under the circumstances could not have reasonably appreciated the danger of riding a bicycle into an elderly woman.”

Mr. Tyrie, Dana Breitman and Rachel Kohn did not respond to messages seeking comment.

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wtf, we live in a fucked up world

Axlin16
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Re: Judge Rules that 4-Year-Old Can Be Sued

Axlin16 wrote:

Ah, America

Land of the Free, Home of the Lawyer

supaplex
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Re: Judge Rules that 4-Year-Old Can Be Sued

supaplex wrote:

old people will start jumping in front of 4-year olds and squeeze money out of their parents 16

polluxlm
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Re: Judge Rules that 4-Year-Old Can Be Sued

polluxlm wrote:

It's better to get em while they're young.

Nice to see the courts are having a good handle on the criminal upstarts. Clearly this gross act of malice is evidence of a hardened criminal to come.

monkeychow
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Re: Judge Rules that 4-Year-Old Can Be Sued

monkeychow wrote:

It's madness for a 4yo to be liable for anything, the parents on the other hand.....

supaplex
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Re: Judge Rules that 4-Year-Old Can Be Sued

supaplex wrote:
monkeychow wrote:

It's madness for a 4yo to be liable for anything, the parents on the other hand.....

liable for the kid racing a bicycle? what are children supposed to do for fun nowadays? bad joke:

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die at home while mom plays farmville?

'now, little johnny, don't go so fast on your bike, or you could get mommy thrown into jail'

sorry but if this is the direction we are heading in, i need to buy me a country asap.

monkeychow
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Re: Judge Rules that 4-Year-Old Can Be Sued

monkeychow wrote:

Oh well I just mean at the end of the day it's the parents job to supervise the kids. Obviously they should be allowed to be kids and play - but if they do something that blew up a gas station or something you'd have to point the finger at the adult and not the child was my point. Although i'll grant you in this case it doesn't seem like there should be a lawsuit at all.

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