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Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
I always thought the Special Thanks was because Slash absolutely hated the song in pre-production, and both he and Duff were skeptical of November Rain & Estranged.
Slash worked hard on making Axl's vision come together, and I thought that's what the Special Thanks for. It was Slash solely giving into Axl. He didn't want to do it.
Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
i think whether Slash liked the song or not is besdides the point when the material that he wrote for the peice was such an integral part to the final product, but he must've liked it to a certain degree for him to put such impressive guitar work on it
for instance I work in an architect's office, i dont like every job i do but i can appreciate something's ingenuity or efficiency and also accept credit good or bad for the work that I did for the project....if the lead guitar work sucked on NR or Estranged who would've taken the heat? Axl cuz he got the only writing credit? No it woulda been on Slash's head cuz he was the lead guitarist, but no the lead guitar was brilliant and all he got was a "thanks for coming out"
anyway the point of me bringing that up was not to bring up slash vs axl again, but to illustrate that the peopel who write important parts of GnR songs don't always get their due credit
Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
I'm not sure how things work in other bands but November Rain is clearly an Axl Rose song. He started working on that song long before he met Slash. I'm not denying Slash brought a lot to the finished product, but where do you draw the line? Did Matt Sorum not come up with the drum parts? Did the conductor not come up with the orchestral arrangement? Does everyone deserve a writing credit for every song?
Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
i say that yeah if the band wrote the song then the band should get writign credits
its not like it was a Nirvana (Kurt Cobain), Megadeth (Dave Mustaine), Foo Fighters (Dave Grohl) or Black Label Society (Zakk Wylde) where one person wrote ALL the material, it was a group of 5 (or 6) guys who created the material....at the very most you separate the lyrics out from the rest of the song... ya know Music by Guns N Roses, Lyrics and Orchestral Arrangement by Axl Rose...and yeah it was all Axl creating the orchestra for NR using synth and planning out every peace...he says that in the making fucking videos for NR
Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
i think whether Slash liked the song or not is besdides the point when the material that he wrote for the peice was such an integral part to the final product, but he must've liked it to a certain degree for him to put such impressive guitar work on it
for instance I work in an architect's office, i dont like every job i do but i can appreciate something's ingenuity or efficiency and also accept credit good or bad for the work that I did for the project....if the lead guitar work sucked on NR or Estranged who would've taken the heat? Axl cuz he got the only writing credit? No it woulda been on Slash's head cuz he was the lead guitarist, but no the lead guitar was brilliant and all he got was a "thanks for coming out"
anyway the point of me bringing that up was not to bring up slash vs axl again, but to illustrate that the peopel who write important parts of GnR songs don't always get their due credit
Lets dont forget that no one has challenged Axl creatively like Slash has either in the form of something like "coma"
Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
though again on the NR side of things...Matt also states in the NR making fucking vids that NR was the only song where Axl ever told him what to do for the drums
See, I think that is the point. On the Axl ballads/piano songs I think he was the one to tell the players what he wanted. In other words, on those songs, Axl probably listened to a dozen Slash guitar fills and in the end, Axl decided what guitar parts were appropriate. He didn't play all the instruments or determine what Slash played, but he determined what he wanted for the song.
It is really no different from solo artists in that respect. Dylan had incredible guitar players from 65-67 and they wrote incredible guitar lines for a bunch of classic tracks. Yet, Dylan gets all the credits because he was the ultimate decision on what would fit on the song. These are standard industry concepts....Slash did not get screwed out of royalties! Royalties deal with album sales. Writing credits deal with publishing rights.
Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
Well it depends on who you believe, but certaintly a large chunk of UYI was actually the beginning of the CD-era, which is why CD feels like UYI III in a way.
According to Slash, with AFD, it was he and Izzy and sometimes Duff just sitting around, jamming, coming up with stuff, Axl would hear it, like it, and start penning lyrics, and bam, you'd have a great song. With UYI, there was SOME of that, but you also had Axl coming in with his own thing, and putting heavy influence on everything in the song, whereas before he was seemingly a lyricist for the most part. IF you believe Slash.
With the sole exception of Coma, every other 'epic' seemed to have Axl all over it's direction.
Slash brought something really special to the table, to a song that I don't think he was entirely keen on doing. Thus the special thanks on Estranged.
