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Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
All this psychology stuff is a joke, I can't believe people with majors in psychology are sticking up for Axl Rose's decisions, mentally fucked or not. There's a lot of stuff that goes on Axl's side, people throwing shit at him is bullshit, for one thing. But the way he handles situations is not that of a sane man. It's of a rich, introverted rock n' roll star who only worries about himself and those around him. Any celebrity gets and expects shit to go in their favor no matter what. Most of them expect to exist above the law and for people to go out of their way to defend them because "he's a celebrity". If he was Axl Rose living in an apartment in Shitville, USA, his ass would have been locked up and the key thrown away at this point, most likely. I don't know what's right and wrong in the life of Axl Rose, and I frankly don't give a shit because what I know shows just how crazy he is. And that's the bottom line. And, he doesn't seem to be getting help.
When one guy in the crowd throws a nickel at you and you tell everyone goodnight with the sly smile of a 13 year old, you are not in your right mind. You are inciting a riot, you are wasting GOOD people's time, people who did not and did not want people to throw shit at you. People who may have traveled hours to see you perform and have to go home. The refund of a ticket doesn't cover that. I don't care if he has bipolar or whatever crybaby thing he pulls up from his book of excuses. Life is fucked up for everyone, some people take it in stride. Do you think shit was never thrown at any other performer in the history of music? I saw a video of Angus Young get soaked in beer and all he did was pinch the guy's nose and went on with the show. Wouldn't he have been just as pissed?
The shit he pulled on stage with walking off could have left people dead. He may as well have put a bullet in a gun, spun it, closed it up, shut his eyes and fired. He may be more sensitive than most, but you have to draw a line somewhere and say, wow, that guy is crazy and no psych terms are going to change the fact that he has put people in danger. Would we excuse Slash for driving drunk? Nope, nor should we. But oh, Axl has 9 personalities, so let's cut him some more slack.
If someone asked me what it meant to be bipolar, I'd say "50 years ago, people would have just called them assholes." Every bipolar kid I know is a product of poor parenting. And I know there are legit cases, but I'm sure you all know what I mean.
Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
No, I usually don't give a damn anymore as seen from my inconsistent posting patterns at this site. Actually, I believe I have more posts today, than all other times combined, since it changed to this from Roses of Velvet.
I lost interest and check in every once a while. Today is your lucky day, I guess.
When Axl came to the message boards, and said the Better video was coming out, it gave me hope. Now, here we are with another delay regarding an Axl Rose project. I'm not angry for myself, as this ship sailed long ago.
I'm angry for the people who still try to defend him. The truth will come out, just like it has many times before, but just because it isn't coming from Axl it isn't considered the truth.I far as me being irrelevant, I think I helped Axl NOT sell some curiousity CD's that he would have.
I'm sure someone else can find some quotes somewhere in Chinese Whispers from Axl or the Axl camp discussing how mindblowing this material is.
The advance he received from Best Buy had implications that this music was not only supposed to relevant, but successful. If he just took the money from Best Buy to cover his debt, where is this "integrity" that I keep hearing about?
If he didn't think he was relevant, why the false hype and ensuing breakdown into chaos everytime?
I won't be looking up quotes for you because I talk really far out of my ass, and it's hard to sit on my ass, and talk out of it, or is it that I disagree and don't have room for blind idolatry?
Your delusions and fantasies to control me won't make them true, sorry. (Wait, where did we hear that before?)
You can get your giant "AXL #1" foam finger out and have it ready to show to Axl when he plays the local chili con carnival, and you are the only one who still shows up.
Each post of yours got weaker and weaker.....nice comeback. 
Please show me where I have defended Axl in this thread? I just think YOUR posts in this thread are a joke. Again, show me where I defended Axl.....you can't do it and have to resort to the lame insults like your last sentence. Maybe you need to point that how powered perception at yourself because you are really giving off a sense of bitterness and anger. Comeback again with some more weak sauce. It gets funnier everytime.:peace:
Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
It's funny... but we don't REALLY know, do we? I can get mad at Axl, but it's hard for me to sell the man up the river, NOT because of being a fan, but because I know what it's like to come from 'misunderstood'. Axl might be a total nutjob asshole, but he also might be a good damn guy, who's actions are totally misunderstood.
Which is sort of my point.
One thing you can do is to analyze what he wrote on the forums. For that you need some specialist in this sort of field. I doubt the average beer drinking GNR fan is of the sort. Correct me if I'm wrong. GNR fans, and me included, do not really put themselves forward as the smartest bunch of people with Master Degrees. Of course there are some exceptions. No need to name names. 
Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
madagas wrote:Dexter wrote:
I don't work for you. Just cuz u think so don't make it true.Dexter wrote:
Why would anyone have to tell me anything? What would you know of anything actually going on in my world. Nice fantasy though, wish I had the time.Dexter wrote:
Your misconceptions and fantasies along with your misguided sense of entitlement don't dictate my actions.Skippy, of course Axl has a Borderline Personality, as millions upon millions of other people do, but, this doesn't sound like a guy who cares what you think or cares if you buy his cd's or not.
The duality of the Guns situation has always been that Axl is allowed to be himself, and do whatever he wants. People will choose to defend him if they want for his fascist behavior, but whatever, to each his own.
Others in his circle are not afforded that luxury.
First of all, if Axl worked for me, he'd have been fired a long, long time ago.
I don't have misconceptions or fantasies of him doing anything. The misconception he has is that he is relevant both musically and professionally. And that his fans who are now adults will put up with his current behavior.
Why would anyone tell him anything? I wouldn't tell him anything, except you get no more money, and it's not because I want to dictate his actions. I don't give up a fuck what he does. I choose to spend my time (except today) paying attention to relevant artists who communicate with their fans.
Honestly, I'm not even the slightest bit angry at him usually, he's like a random homeless man, harmless, insignificant.
I started reading this thread, and it made me slightly sick to think of all the people this guy hurts.
Btw, I believe Axl talks about being a borderline and all his indulgent therapy in Interview magazine from the early 90's.
why are you so needy? why do you need axl to communicate with you? it sounds like you're the one with the problem. not him. 
Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
All this psychology stuff is a joke, I can't believe people with majors in psychology are sticking up for Axl Rose's decisions, mentally fucked or not. There's a lot of stuff that goes on Axl's side, people throwing shit at him is bullshit, for one thing. But the way he handles situations is not that of a sane man. It's of a rich, introverted rock n' roll star who only worries about himself and those around him. Any celebrity gets and expects shit to go in their favor no matter what. Most of them expect to exist above the law and for people to go out of their way to defend them because "he's a celebrity". If he was Axl Rose living in an apartment in Shitville, USA, his ass would have been locked up and the key thrown away at this point, most likely. I don't know what's right and wrong in the life of Axl Rose, and I frankly don't give a shit because what I know shows just how crazy he is. And that's the bottom line. And, he doesn't seem to be getting help.
When one guy in the crowd throws a nickel at you and you tell everyone goodnight with the sly smile of a 13 year old, you are not in your right mind. You are inciting a riot, you are wasting GOOD people's time, people who did not and did not want people to throw shit at you. People who may have traveled hours to see you perform and have to go home. The refund of a ticket doesn't cover that. I don't care if he has bipolar or whatever crybaby thing he pulls up from his book of excuses. Life is fucked up for everyone, some people take it in stride. Do you think shit was never thrown at any other performer in the history of music? I saw a video of Angus Young get soaked in beer and all he did was pinch the guy's nose and went on with the show. Wouldn't he have been just as pissed?
The shit he pulled on stage with walking off could have left people dead. He may as well have put a bullet in a gun, spun it, closed it up, shut his eyes and fired. He may be more sensitive than most, but you have to draw a line somewhere and say, wow, that guy is crazy and no psych terms are going to change the fact that he has put people in danger. Would we excuse Slash for driving drunk? Nope, nor should we. But oh, Axl has 9 personalities, so let's cut him some more slack.
If someone asked me what it meant to be bipolar, I'd say "50 years ago, people would have just called them assholes." Every bipolar kid I know is a product of poor parenting. And I know there are legit cases, but I'm sure you all know what I mean.
In the immortal words of Phantasm...
"Don't believe everything you see"
Without a personal examination, one-on-one, no one can firmly diagnose the man's problems, if there are any. Period.
And you call Axl a 13-year old for walking off stage? What about the 13-year olds in the fuckin' crowd throwing shit? When Axl shows up, he owes you a show, but he doesn't owe you a babysitting service. I can firmly understand that being a deal breaker, and I suggest anyone that gets pissed that he walked off, find the guy that threw the coin, and beat the mother fucker 'til he's dead.
I guess i'm an anti-social type now for saying that.
Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
I find it funny how some of you take the stance that if someone like Skippy expresses his opinions or interpretations on Axl and his behavior they arent' worth anything or are baseless simply because you disagree with thsoe interpretations Yet those of you who feel Axl has matured and is simply misunderstood or who defend his actions have a legit reasons to do so and your opinions are of more value on this subject? Why is that? Those of you excusing Axl or defending his actions don't know him either. You're interpretations aren't worth anymore shit than anyone elses. Fuck I hate when people use that arguement. We all know in the grand scheme of things our opinions regarding someone we've never met don't mean shit but don't say it like yours actually does. I laugh at how sensitive some of you get towards Old Uncle Axl yet nobody flinches or even hesitates to trash the behavior of somene like Britney Spears. Someone you don't even knwo yet it's o.k. and good for a laugh to trash someone like her. It's a tad hypocritical.
i would never go on a britney spears fan site, trash on britney spears, claim to be a psycologist and then not back up my opinions with any concrete reasoning.
nobody's saying skippy can't have an opinion either. it's the psychology nonsense that has everyone up in arms.
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Re: Lars Comments on "Better" Video
C'mon, even Marilyn Manson said in his book that when he met Axl, sometime in 1992 or 1993, all the man did was talking about his mental problems. MM found him bat-shit crazy. I think when Marilyn Manson thinks you're crazy, that means something.
