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Agree with the above post.
Ranking the Joker performances, I'd place Heath Ledger far and away at first (obviously) and then Mark Hamill from the Animated Series above Nicholson. As far as the original franchise is concerned, for nostalgic reasons I have a soft spot towards Batman '89, but I've always been partial to Batman Returns, personally.
As an aside, any horror fan not appreciating the Batman mythos is odd in and of itself.
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Re: Oscars 2009
Agree with the above post.
Ranking the Joker performances, I'd place Heath Ledger far and away at first (obviously) and then Mark Hamill from the Animated Series above Nicholson. As far as the original franchise is concerned, for nostalgic reasons I have a soft spot towards Batman '89, but I've always been partial to Batman Returns, personally.
As an aside, any horror fan not appreciating the Batman mythos is odd in and of itself.
I have a huge soft spot for B89 and BR. I grew up with them and I think they are entertaining examples of Burton's style of filmmaking.
Regarding horror, I really do wonder how someone can look down their nose at superhero movies while they are in their 30's and thoroughly enjoy watching the same formulaic cliches over and over in the horror genre. Hot teenage couple goes into woods and gets butt naked. Masked killer comes out of nowhere and chops them to bits with his fill in the blank with your weapon of choice. Don't get me wrong, there have been some masterpieces in the horror genre with excellent storytelling, but it seems like the only great filmmaking in the horror genre lately has been overseas, not here in North America. And I would really love for James to describe how the Joker running around killing people with knives, shotguns, rocket launchers, and blowing up hospitals is somehow for kids. 
Speaking of Batman/horror, I think the docks scene in Batman Begins has more suspense than any of the garbage remakes that are getting churned out in the horror genre. That's how far the horror genre has fallen, that Chris Nolan's PG-13 Batman-as-predator contains more suspense than movies that are intended to scare adult audiences.
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you know there is a batman thread right?
So long as Axlin08 and myself are members around here, EVERY thread in the Hollywood forum is doomed to turn into a Batman thread. 
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Watching that Batman movie from 1989 in the theater is possibly the worst theater experience in my life. A snooze fest straight from the gates of hell.
That's funny. I remember going to see this when it first came out in 1989 and I ended up falling asleep halfway through the movie. I think it was the part where the Batmobile made an appearance. To this day, I still can't sit through this film in its entirety. I don't know whether its Michael Keaton or the slow moving story but whatever it is I get restless. Now Batman Returns, I enjoyed that film although I really need to rewatch it since the last time I saw it was in 1991 when it opened up.
Don't get me wrong, there have been some masterpieces in the horror genre with excellent storytelling, but it seems like the only great filmmaking in the horror genre lately has been overseas, not here in North America
That seems to be the case as we've seen a ton of remakes by Hollywood of Asian horror flicks--The Ring, the Grudge etc. FWIW, I enjoyed The Orphanage (spanish horror film) since it was so darn creepy. I still remember that one scene where the old woman gets hit by a truck and a few seconds later her hand clutches up and she grabs the hand of the main character (sorry if this is confusing). I ended up yelling Holy Shit pretty loudly in the theatre. Lucky for me there were only 4 people there.
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I actually agree with James on one point. I have a MASSIVE hatred for superhero movies. Hate the fuckers.
Except Batman.
That's my one exception. I hate ALL of the rest. Can't sit through them.
I can understand James love for horror, but distaste for superhero movies. I'm not really even a fan of the superhero genre. I think i'm just a horror fan & Batman fan.
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I actually agree with James on one point. I have a MASSIVE hatred for superhero movies. Hate the fuckers.
Except Batman.
That's my one exception. I hate ALL of the rest. Can't sit through them.
I can understand James love for horror, but distaste for superhero movies. I'm not really even a fan of the superhero genre. I think i'm just a horror fan & Batman fan.
You mean you don't like the first two X-Men movies for instance? Or the first two Superman movies from the 70's? Or RDJ in Iron Man (basically a lighthearted version of Batman Begins)? There are good superhero movies out there. Quite a few of them. There are piece of shit ones too of course and I can't stand those. But when it's handled right, it's a good genre.
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Interesting that since I don't love Batman, this turns into a diatribe against the horror genre and insinuating that I like the "thousands of rehashed, unoriginal horror movies out there."
I think you've known me long enough to know my specific horror tastes, most of which is foreign and if not, twenty to thirty years old.
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Interesting that since I don't love Batman, this turns into a diatribe against the horror genre and insinuating that I like the "thousands of rehashed, unoriginal horror movies out there."
I think you've known me long enough to know my specific horror tastes, most of which is foreign and if not, twenty to thirty years old.
I know that you also throw your money down to see exactly what I described due to your support for the genre. I don't have any allegiance to the superhero genre. I'll see a superhero movie if it looks good (like Nolan's Batman movies) but I won't if it looks like trash (such as Fantastic Four). You actually spent your money on the remakes for Halloween and Friday the 13th. That's dedication, man.
