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- tejastech08
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Re: Oscars 2009
I don't like any of the movies you listed. The only movies I 'sat through' was the Spider-Man films, and my reaction to all three was that of "ehhh".
Interesting. I think the Spidey movies suck. I'm surprised you didn't like Iron Man. RDJ is a great actor and very funny.
- tejastech08
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Re: Oscars 2009
And by the way James, my "diatribe" against the horror industry is no different than your diatribe against the Batman franchise. I would just love for you to actually prove to me how the Joker in TDK is for kids, which is how you described it in your first complaint about superhero movies (including TDK).
Re: Oscars 2009
And by the way James, my "diatribe" against the horror industry is no different than your diatribe against the Batman franchise. I would just love for you to actually prove to me how the Joker in TDK is for kids, which is how you described it in your first complaint about superhero movies (including TDK).
No, thats not how I described it. I was asked why I disliked the Batman franchise, and I said its because I dislike both superhero and kids movies, and the Batman franchise basically falls into both categories. I didn't feel the need to cherry pick specific performances from different years and spin them into their own sub genre.
This franchise has always been marketed towards kids. Twenty years later, I still have no idea how I wound up in the theater that night. Maybe a Batman logo on a Big Gulp at 7-11 or a sticker on a hamburger wrapper at Mcdonalds convinced me to cave in to pop culture.
As you know from some prior Batman discussion, I basically washed my hands of this franchise after my experience with that film from 1989. None of the trailers and/or commercial tie ins convinced me to give any of them a chance. Maybe if I had bought a Happy Meal with Mr. Freeze on it I could have been convinced. 
I highly doubt that TDK specifically was marketed towards the 5-10 year old demographic, but that leaves me with one other reason why this film didn't float my boat.....I don't like superhero movies. I was willing to give it a chance, and I just didn't like it.
Best Batman experience for me is that Batman Begins game that was on XBOX 4 or 5 years ago.
- tejastech08
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Re: Oscars 2009
tejastech08 wrote:And by the way James, my "diatribe" against the horror industry is no different than your diatribe against the Batman franchise. I would just love for you to actually prove to me how the Joker in TDK is for kids, which is how you described it in your first complaint about superhero movies (including TDK).
No, thats not how I described it. I was asked why I disliked the Batman franchise, and I said its because I dislike both superhero and kids movies, and the Batman franchise basically falls into both categories. I didn't feel the need to cherry pick specific performances from different years and spin them into their own sub genre.
This franchise has always been marketed towards kids. Twenty years later, I still have no idea how I wound up in the theater that night. Maybe a Batman logo on a Big Gulp at 7-11 or a sticker on a hamburger wrapper at Mcdonalds convinced me to cave in to pop culture.
As you know from some prior Batman discussion, I basically washed my hands of this franchise after my experience with that film from 1989. None of the trailers and/or commercial tie ins convinced me to give any of them a chance. Maybe if I had bought a Happy Meal with Mr. Freeze on it I could have been convinced.
I highly doubt that TDK specifically was marketed towards the 5-10 year old demographic, but that leaves me with one other reason why this film didn't float my boat.....I don't like superhero movies. I was willing to give it a chance, and I just didn't like it.
Best Batman experience for me is that Batman Begins game that was on XBOX 4 or 5 years ago.
The Mr. Freeze Happy Meal. Don't worry, you didn't miss much with that one. It's only the worst villain performance in any superhero movie...the Governator wants to "kick some ice!"
Have you still not gotten around to watching Batman Begins? You've been talking about watching it for years now it seems.
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but I won't if it looks like trash (such as Fantastic Four).
actuall fantastic 4 wasnt too bad...i was surprised
as for comic movies, hellboy, sin city, xmen, the new batman flicks and the 89 one...there are some good ones and some not so good ... daredevil, electra, spiderman, flash gordon , punisher
the ones that dont interest me i usually avoid unless it comes on my movie channels and i have time to check it out
trying to think of the last decent horror movie....prolly the ring...IMO the horror genre has been the shits for a while 
i used to be into it though back when all the franchises were warring
- Communist China
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I do like Super-Hero stories usually, although I'll admit a great deal or mediocre movies have been made from super-heroes, and I'll also say I don't "get" comic books so much, although I do love certain ones. I think they, like the Action genre in general, is wrongfully ignored by the Academy. But c'mon, it's called the Academy, would you expect anything other than arrogance and outdated standards?
It's not like an Oscar is a mark of quality.
By the way, in the 80s the combination of Watchmen and TDKR totally changed the face of comic books/graphic novels. TDK, the movie from 08, was hugely successful and well-loved by most critics, and may very well have a huge impact on how super-hero movies are made. Watchmen comes out in about a week, is there any chance the film will do to movies what the book did to comic books? I'm going to have to say no from knowing the director and seeing a few clips, but there's some hope. One of the opening clips came out recently that was actually quite good imo.
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^ Specially "Death In The Family" changed alot... having a major good guy "i.e Robin and and his mother" blown up by the Joker with no comeback showed that comics didn't have to hold anything back.
- tejastech08
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Re: Oscars 2009
tejastech08 wrote:but I won't if it looks like trash (such as Fantastic Four).
actuall fantastic 4 wasnt too bad...i was surprised
as for comic movies, hellboy, sin city, xmen, the new batman flicks and the 89 one...there are some good ones and some not so good ... daredevil, electra, spiderman, flash gordon
the ones that dont interest me i usually avoid unless it comes on my movie channels and i have time to check it out
trying to think of the last decent horror movie....prolly the ring...IMO the horror genre has been the shits for a while
Flash Gordon, oh holy shit. That was a clusterfuck to end all clusterfucks. Makes you wonder how much Queen was paid to allow their music to be part of that movie.
- tejastech08
- Rep: 194
Re: Oscars 2009
I do like Super-Hero stories usually, although I'll admit a great deal or mediocre movies have been made from super-heroes, and I'll also say I don't "get" comic books so much, although I do love certain ones. I think they, like the Action genre in general, is wrongfully ignored by the Academy. But c'mon, it's called the Academy, would you expect anything other than arrogance and outdated standards?
It's not like an Oscar is a mark of quality.
By the way, in the 80s the combination of Watchmen and TDKR totally changed the face of comic books/graphic novels. TDK, the movie from 08, was hugely successful and well-loved by most critics, and may very well have a huge impact on how super-hero movies are made. Watchmen comes out in about a week, is there any chance the film will do to movies what the book did to comic books? I'm going to have to say no from knowing the director and seeing a few clips, but there's some hope. One of the opening clips came out recently that was actually quite good imo.
I think Watchmen will be a faithful adaptation, but let's face it. A direct adaptation of something like that is never as interesting as a more original story such as with Batman Begins and TDK. They used certain storylines from the comics but they put their own spin on it. 300 was pretty much a note for note adaptation of the graphic novel and Watchmen is supposedly pretty similar, though I heard they changed the ending of it for the movie. Anyway, when you have not only the story but the visuals already in another medium, it's not as powerful to do a direct adaptation. Look at the Godfather. What made that adaptation so great is that the book kicks ass, but Coppola added his own visual style to it to bring the characters to life. In a sense, the Watchmen graphic novel is pretty darn close to being brought to life by the mere presence of pictures in the book itself. It's definitely closer than a straight up text novel like the Godfather.
And even if Snyder was doing his own thing in a similar fashion to Nolan, let's not kid ourselves here. Snyder has a visually interesting style for his movies but he's not on Nolan's level as far as storytelling. Very few directors are on that level today.
