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- A Private Eye
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Re: GNR Sued For Copying Songs
Well it's clear as day the first few seconds on that second vid are the same as on Rhiad, but a million $, I don't see them getting that. It's 5-10 seconds of an electronic effect type noise I'm not sure how much of a copyright claim anyone could have over that.
Call me naive or a fanboy or whatever but this is an electronic sound, presumably from a keyboard or something. It's not a guitar riff that's been stolen it's a sound effect from a keyboard or some other synth instrument. Is it not remotely possible this Schnauss guy and Pittman have some of the same equipment and produced the same effect?
Re: GNR Sued For Copying Songs
Well it's clear as day the first few seconds on that second vid are the same as on Rhiad, but a million $, I don't see them getting that. It's 5-10 seconds of an electronic effect type noise I'm not sure how much of a copyright claim anyone could have over that.
Call me naive or a fanboy or whatever but this is an electronic sound, presumably from a keyboard or something. It's not a guitar riff that's been stolen it's a sound effect from a keyboard or some other synth instrument. Is it not remotely possible this Schnauss guy and Pittman have some of the same equipment and produced the same effect?
You cant steal from other artists. Period. Hell, look at the Stones. Their song 'Anybody Seen My Baby' had a chorus similar to Constant Craving. They gave Lang credit for that so they wouldn't have to think about possible lawsuits once it was released.
For an even better example which would relate to this(also Stones related), check out The Verve's Bittersweet Symphony.
You cant do this sort of thing. Well you can, but have your wallet open while doing it.
Re: GNR Sued For Copying Songs
Originally, The Verve had negotiated a licence to use a sample from the Oldham recording, but it was successfully argued that the Verve had used 'too much' of the sample. Despite having original lyrics, the music of "Bitter Sweet Symphony" is partially based on the Oldham track (the song uses the sample as its foundation and builds layers upon it, though the prominent violin melody is Ashcroft's creation), which led to a lawsuit with ABKCO Records, Allen Klein's company that owns the rights to the Rolling Stones material of the 1960s. The matter was eventually settled, with copyright of the song reverting to ABKCO and songwriting credits to Jagger and Richards.
Re: GNR Sued For Copying Songs
They "stole" about 10 to 15 seconds worth of sounds for the intro. Bittersweet Symphony was completely based on the Stones song they sampled and played throughout the entire song. It's a bit of a different case. There's obviously a similarity, or a ripoff, what have you. But it's nowhere near the severity of some of these other cases.
- A Private Eye
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Re: GNR Sued For Copying Songs
A Private Eye wrote:Well it's clear as day the first few seconds on that second vid are the same as on Rhiad, but a million $, I don't see them getting that. It's 5-10 seconds of an electronic effect type noise I'm not sure how much of a copyright claim anyone could have over that.
Call me naive or a fanboy or whatever but this is an electronic sound, presumably from a keyboard or something. It's not a guitar riff that's been stolen it's a sound effect from a keyboard or some other synth instrument. Is it not remotely possible this Schnauss guy and Pittman have some of the same equipment and produced the same effect?
You cant steal from other artists. Period. Hell, look at the Stones. Their song 'Anybody Seen My Baby' had a chorus similar to Constant Craving. They gave Lang credit for that so they wouldn't have to think about possible lawsuits once it was released.
For an even better example which would relate to this(also Stones related), check out The Verve's Bittersweet Symphony.
You cant do this sort of thing. Well you can, but have your wallet open while doing it.
I see your point but where's the line drawn legally? As I said it's not like both songs have an identical riff or something. If a song opens with two long notes played on a guitar and someone then says 'hey my song opens with those same two long notes' do they have a right to sue? Is there a set amount of time the music has to sound similar/same or a set number of notes that need to be in the same sequence before you have a case?
As madagas said it might be wise to agree a sum out of court just to avoid the publicity, which is probably what Mr Schanuss is hoping for.
Re: GNR Sued For Copying Songs
They "stole" about 10 to 15 seconds worth of sounds for the intro. Bittersweet Symphony was completely based on the Stones song they sampled and played throughout the entire song. It's a bit of a different case. There's obviously a similarity, or a ripoff, what have you. But it's nowhere near the severity of some of these other cases.
I never said this case was identical. Simply mentioned a couple other cases for reference.
