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Re: Does anyone else get the impression that Axl is trying to re-build ...
I will say my favorite new Gnr lineup would have been the 2001 one.....the one with all the writing credits on the record. Tobias-Bucket-Finck-Pitman-Diz-Tommy-Axl-Brain. Fortus was never needed. Tobias should have stayed on in the live setting just to add a little basic rhythm to the songs and let Bucket/Finck play the meat. Oh well...coulda shoulda woulda ...the story of Gnr since October 1996.
Buzz, I also think that maybe if Axl kept that 2001 lineup together and released the album in 2001 summer like he said he was going to do at Rio, it would have changed the public perception a little. However, it didn't happen so that is that.
Re: Does anyone else get the impression that Axl is trying to re-build ...
If you don't agree with me, you're wrong!
Re: Does anyone else get the impression that Axl is trying to re-build ...
I will say my favorite new Gnr lineup would have been the 2001 one.....the one with all the writing credits on the record. Tobias-Bucket-Finck-Pitman-Diz-Tommy-Axl-Brain. Fortus was never needed. Tobias should have stayed on in the live setting just to add a little basic rhythm to the songs and let Bucket/Finck play the meat. Oh well...coulda shoulda woulda ...the story of Gnr since October 1996.
Buzz, I also think that maybe if Axl kept that 2001 lineup together and released the album in 2001 summer like he said he was going to do at Rio, it would have changed the public perception a little. However, it didn't happen so that is that.
I agree - every year of nothing happeneing hurt the potential of the album. My point is that the public opinion was already too far gone in 2001, and when you add that to the reaction to BH and Finck and the VMAs, it doesn't leave a lot of reasons for the album to have been much more successful than it was.
I will say this though: I don't believe that an Axl/Slash GnR album in 2001 would have been very big either. I think GnR was too anti what was big then and the nostolgia thing didn't really start taking off again until recently. People would have gone to see them tour, but I don't think an album would have sold as well as some people think it would have. Better than CD did? Yes. As well as either UYI album? I don't think so.
Re: Does anyone else get the impression that Axl is trying to re-build ...
I am saying he should have released the album during the summer of 2001 like he talked about in a radio interview in Jan 01...before Axl had braids, before the VMA's, before any North American tour....before anybody had any idea who was actually in the band. Let them judge the music first before they have any preconceived notions based on someone's appearance or a poor performance on national tv. Right after Rio, Gnr was getting a large amount of positive press...despite a sloppy but energetic Rio show.
"Hopefully we will put out a new single [...] sometime this spring, and then the record is gonna be done in June or shortly thereafter." (Axl, Radio Rock And Pop Chile, 01/01)
shortly thereafter? 7 years later. 
Re: Does anyone else get the impression that Axl is trying to re-build ...
Madagas, I don't think it would have mattered. The songs didn't sound like GnR. I don't think people would have cared who was in the band if they sounded the way they did. When they did decide to tour, nobody was interested and most had no idea who was in the band - or who wasn't for that matter. The lack of sales at the time was for the brand, not the band in my opinion.
Re: Does anyone else get the impression that Axl is trying to re-build ...
I think they could have put together an album more closely resembling Gnr if effort was made to do so and the tracklist was pared down to around 12 songs. The core of the album could have been TWAT, IRS, Catcher, The Blues, Riad, Prostitute, This I love, Madagascar and Chinese. Those songs in 2001 were probably less produced and would have been a little more Gnr than what they ended up like in 2008. Just pure speculation of course but this quote tells me things may have been a little different back in that time frame...fresher.
'I have heard the a leaked version of Chinese Democracy that had some really weird keyboards on it and I didn't like the sound of that at all,' [Zutaut says]. 'The stuff we worked on back in '01 smoked its ass.'" (Classic Rock, 04/08)
The public may have never accepted the "new" band but I do think they could have given themselves a much better shot at success by doing ALOT of things different than they did. 
Re: Does anyone else get the impression that Axl is trying to re-build ...
We could all look at this another way, and say hey, isn't it great to see all these different talents at different times in such a great band, and for those of you who were Bucket/Finck etc fans before they joined, wow, you've seen your best guys playing in GnR! 
Oh look, a pig just flew over the moon...
