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Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread
I was at the Patriots game on Sunday and safety Patrick Chung was playing air guitar to "Welcome To The Jungle" during a timeout. Then on the next play, he came up with a key interception in the endzone. I can't help but think GNR had a little something to do with that, a little added motivation.
Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread
If Buffalo did that to your defense I'd be very scared. I knew The Patriots D was going to be average this year, because your secondary and linebackers are young, but WOW. I'm shocked. Where is your pass rush, dude?
I really wish Miami would get Trent Edwards, but they like their backup. But I'm happy for the guy that he's getting as far away from that team as possible. Awful O-Line and terrible coach... And owner. No one is going to succeed in Buffalo. It's a shame because I think they could be a good team. But really, comparing Fitzpatric against the Patriots D (which, he did blow the game for them, btw) against the Packers and Dolphins defense that Edwards went against, I think is pretty funny. Plus, Gailey did an AWFUL job calling those first 2 games.
According to Mort (ESPN) these are the teams that really want Edwards: Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Kansas City Chiefs, New York Jets and Seattle Seahawks.
The Jets are the sexy pick, but I hope he ends up with The Seahawks, who supposedly are the ones who want him the most. He'd be playing this week if he signs with The Panthers though 
Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread
If Buffalo did that to your defense I'd be very scared. I knew The Patriots D was going to be average this year, because your secondary and linebackers are young, but WOW. I'm shocked. Where is your pass rush, dude?
I really wish Miami would get Trent Edwards, but they like their backup. But I'm happy for the guy that he's getting as far away from that team as possible. Awful O-Line and terrible coach... And owner. No one is going to succeed in Buffalo. It's a shame because I think they could be a good team. But really, comparing Fitzpatric against the Patriots D (which, he did blow the game for them, btw) against the Packers and Dolphins defense that Edwards went against, I think is pretty funny. Plus, Gailey did an AWFUL job calling those first 2 games.
According to Mort (ESPN) these are the teams that really want Edwards: Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Kansas City Chiefs, New York Jets and Seattle Seahawks.
The Jets are the sexy pick, but I hope he ends up with The Seahawks, who supposedly are the ones who want him the most. He'd be playing this week if he signs with The Panthers though
Yeah I knew the Patriots defense wouldn't be very good this year, but they've been worse than I could've imagined. Teams are saying that once they figure out the Patriots schemes on defense they can figure out the weaknesses and attack them. And there are plenty of weaknesses to attack. It took the Bengals till the 2nd half. The Jets took about a quarter and a half. The Bills pretty much had it right out of the gate. They're obviously trending downward. They actually cover receivers decently, but they can't make plays and they can't tackle. The pass rush is non existent, to be expected. Those two INT's they had this week were totally on Fitzpatrick. They were basically fair catches. On the bright side, they can't get much worse. I honestly don't see them getting much better though. They just don't have enough talent there. They're built like the Colts teams that used to fail in the playoffs. It's all on Brady and the offense.
Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread
If Buffalo did that to your defense I'd be very scared. I knew The Patriots D was going to be average this year, because your secondary and linebackers are young, but WOW. I'm shocked. Where is your pass rush, dude?
I really wish Miami would get Trent Edwards, but they like their backup. But I'm happy for the guy that he's getting as far away from that team as possible. Awful O-Line and terrible coach... And owner. No one is going to succeed in Buffalo. It's a shame because I think they could be a good team. But really, comparing Fitzpatric against the Patriots D (which, he did blow the game for them, btw) against the Packers and Dolphins defense that Edwards went against, I think is pretty funny. Plus, Gailey did an AWFUL job calling those first 2 games.
According to Mort (ESPN) these are the teams that really want Edwards: Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Kansas City Chiefs, New York Jets and Seattle Seahawks.
The Jets are the sexy pick, but I hope he ends up with The Seahawks, who supposedly are the ones who want him the most. He'd be playing this week if he signs with The Panthers though
I think Edwards is still eligible for waivers and if the Seahawks put in a claim they'll get him. I believe they get waiver priority since they are still going by 2009 records and since the Seahawks have the worst record of those interested teams, they'll get a first crack. I do think that this makes Seattle trade for Charlie Whitehurst kinda stupid though.
Miami's offense looked pretty good on SNF. I wish they'd run the ball more.
On a general league note, I can't remember the last time that special teams play was so shitty on a league wide basis for one week. GB, OAK, SD, NE, NYG all had very bad weeks on ST. SD in particular gave up like 250 KR yards.
Is Darius Butler benched for the Pats? I read somewhere that they took him out for a while in the BUF game and then reinserted him where he proceded to give up several completions before being yanked permanently.
They're built like the Colts teams that used to fail in the playoffs. It's all on Brady and the offense.
Is this a philosophical shift? It seems like the past few years they've been loading up on offense and filling in the defensive needs afterward? I still think they should have taken an edge rusher with one of their numerous picks during either of the pass two years. I think they had a shot at Clay Matthews but traded the pick to the Packers for a second rounder.
As for the Titans, I'm happy they won even though they gave up close to 500yds of total offense to the NYG. They caused key turnovers though which didn't happen last year. But Jeff Fisher, please throw more than FOUR times in the first fucking half? He's gong to get Chris Johnson killed at this point with the workload he's getting. Shockingly, though the Titans special teams played well this week.
I'm wondering when the Vince Young/Jeff Fisher feud will come to a head. These guys do not like each other at all. In between Fisher planting hit pieces in the media on Young and Young just basically ignoring Fisher, this is getting to be difficult for Jeff Fisher to handle. Fisher's slick like a sleazy politician too. This will not end well for Jeff unless he wins a SB or several playoff games or Vince Young gets injured. Chris Johnson seems to be fully behind Vince Young and has questioned some of the ultra conservative play calling as well. So that's your two biggest stars (including one who has the backing of the owner) that's he's alienated or peeved off.
Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread
Looks like the Jaguars picked up Trent Edwards.
Darius Butler was abused and beaten badly against the Jets in week 2. He was benched towards the end of the game and replaced by Kyle Arrington in the starting lineup against the Bills. Butler only got into the game for 3 plays and didn't do very well in limited time. I figured they would've given him a chance to redeem himself, but that didn't happen. I don't know if the move was permanent. Maybe they figured they'd give him some time off to collect his thoughts. The defense didn't look any better without him, so it obviously doesn't fall n one guy.
The Patriots have changed their philosophy over the years. Back in 2006, they got all the way to the AFC Championship Game with Reche Caldwell as their top receiver. People complained that they were wasting Brady's peak years by providing him with such a lack of weapons. So they went out loaded up with Moss, Welker, Stalworth, etc. Problem solved on that end. Unfortunately their defense got old and guys like McGinest, Bruschi, Harrison, Vrabel, Seymour moved on, were traded, or retired. Asante Samuel was the one notable young defensive player who they refused to pay the money to retain. People argue that they prematurely traded Vrabel and Seymour, but Samuel is the major loss.
They've made it a point to get younger and faster on defense, which they have. But to this point they haven't gotten any better. I agree they should've addressed the pass rushing issues over the years. It's the most glaring need. I'm not sure why they haven't tried to fix that, or maybe they feel they have. Again, either way it hasn't worked. The Adalius Thomas signing didn't work out as they planned. He was thought to be a top pass rusher, but that didn't work out. Derrick Burgess didn't work out either. A lot of misses and not many hits
over the years.
So they've gone from a balanced, ball control offense with a good defense to a dynamic offense with a bad defense. I don't know if it was by design, but that's where they're at.
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@ Trent Edwards, Yeah, just heard they went on this season's worst records ("worst teams get first crack at him") not last years. Seahawks wanted him, but couldn't get him. Well, at least he'll get a chance to start. Good for him.
The Jeff Fisher/Vince Young thing: I seriously think the problem is that Fisher has zero respect for Young. He's willing to put Kerry Collins in at any moment Young screws up. I think Young has some serious leadership problems, and in all seriousness, I've heard he's really not that bright. And being forced to watch Titans games I can tell you any time Vince gets rattled he loses it. He gets shaken and never recovers. Most NFL "analyst" only look at when things go perfectly for him. He does shine in that situation. But he does not rise up at any sign of diversity. Not in the NFL at least. I have to agree with Fisher. I think the moment when Young refused to go back into the game a couple seasons back totally ruined any trust Fisher had in him. How can you trust Young?
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Doesn't Young have a pretty good record as a starter compared to other Titan QB's over the years though? I seem to remember them struggling until he gets the job, then they make a run.
Trent Edwards could get a shot in Jacksonville if Garrard continues to stink up the joint. Another awful team, or at least it appears that way.
mortreport - In the end, two teams put in claims on Trent
Edwards. The Jaguars, who got him and, yes, the New York Jets.
about 4 hours ago via web
Also, thought this was kind of a funny story. I guess since Roy Williams finally had a big game, he can now get away this.
The bill came due for Dez Bryant's refusal to carry Roy Williams' shoulder pads in training camp, and the rookie was stuck with the Cowboys' tab at a local steakhouse Monday night.
Williams got his revenge to the tune of a whopping $54,896 tab at Pappas Bros. Steakhouse. Bryant invited the offensive players out, and Williams told the defense to come along as well. In a scene out of Richard Pryor classic Brewter's Millions, players ordered everything on the menu and went on to take home bottles of wine. "They got the young fella," said Bryant's adviser. "What could he say? He had to pay it unless he wanted to wash dishes for a month."
Sep. 28 - 3:14 pm et
Source: ESPN Dallas
Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread
@ Trent Edwards, Yeah, just heard they went on this season's worst records ("worst teams get first crack at him") not last years. Seahawks wanted him, but couldn't get him. Well, at least he'll get a chance to start. Good for him.
The Jeff Fisher/Vince Young thing: I seriously think the problem is that Fisher has zero respect for Young. He's willing to put Kerry Collins in at any moment Young screws up. I think Young has some serious leadership problems, and in all seriousness, I've heard he's really not that bright. And being forced to watch Titans games I can tell you any time Vince gets rattled he loses it. He gets shaken and never recovers. Most NFL "analyst" only look at when things go perfectly for him. He does shine in that situation. But he does not rise up at any sign of diversity. Not in the NFL at least. I have to agree with Fisher. I think the moment when Young refused to go back into the game a couple seasons back totally ruined any trust Fisher had in him. How can you trust Young?
There are a lot of politics at play in the Jeff Fisher/Vince Young situation. I believe it is a Bud mandated "play Vince or else" edict. That being said Kerry Collins was awful in 2009 and had the same amount of issues when he is being rushed or hurried. Seriously, blitz that guy up the middle and he either fumbles or throws an int or a pass out of bounds.
The 8-2 record by Young including the 99 yard drive to beat Arizona buys him this year for me. I'm still waiting for him to beat a good defense though, the last few times he has faced one he has struggled. He'll have another shot in 2 weeks at Dallas.
I guess my issues and frustrations are mostly with Jeff Fisher and his inability to change his style. Even if they make the playoffs, I forsee a Marty Schotenheimer implosion in the playoffs. I'll give Fisher credit for this one though: He took a really awful offensive team into the playoffs in 2007. That team had Eric Moulds (he was old and useless then) starting at WR, Lendale Whie (fat and useless) at RB and Vince Young at QB.
There aren't any average QB's on the Titans roster if Young flames out. Collins is done and a rookie is the 3rd stringer. The weird thing is that Young has winning record as a starter; something like top 5 winning % since he started in 2006. At this point he isn't an elite qb, but he's better than Leinart/ Jamarcus Russell bust territory. He's basically average at this point.
On Edwards to Jacksonville, works well for them. Their backup blew out an ACL a few weeks ago. Also, it gets Mike Sims Walker a reprieve on my FF team. I was close to dumping him after his 2 catch 34 yd performance.
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I'm predicting a Patriot loss tonight in Miami. I know that's not really going out on a limb, but I just have no confidence in them winning on the road anymore. And until they prove me wrong, that will continue. I think Miami is a better balanced team to begin with, couple that with the fact that New England has always had trouble winning in Miami and the fact that they haven't been able to win anywhere other than Gillette, Buffalo, and London the last 2 years, it seems pretty clear to me. I'm SHOCKED they're a favorite. Makes no sense to me. Seems like easy money for any gamblers out there.
Of course, I hope I'm dead wrong.
