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faldor
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Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread

faldor wrote:
Communist China wrote:

Brady went after another player's knee again. And yet he demands interference calls every time someone gets within a foot of his legs.

When did this happen?  How come this is the first I'm hearing of this?  Do you have any visual evidence to back up this claim?

Neemo
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Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread

Neemo wrote:

i think its more that brady has no idea how to hit so he just tries to put his body in the way without getting hurt

he did it twice once on that double reverse play or whatever its caleld and another time when he was blocking for a RB

war
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Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread

war wrote:

it doesn't need to be helmet to helmet in order to be of ill intent and dangerous.

you have a receiver in a defenseless position and in the air or off balance and spread out.

and then you have a defender with a low center of gravity waiting like a lion to pounce.

that defender has a choice between going for the tackle

or going for the yard sale


these hits are also defined as illegal by the nfl


it's not a matter of defining what is illegal

but a matter of increasing the punishment in order to enforce the pre-existing definitoins.

Neemo
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Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread

Neemo wrote:

when youre in the heat of the moment though you just react, some dude side steps you then you do what you can to take him down....on instinct

same in hockey you see ghuys stick the knee out...i'd say 9 times out of ten its just a reaction...doesnt mean that its right, i'm just saying

war
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Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread

war wrote:

yes, that's true...some times

95 percent of the time they know what they are doing?

misterID
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Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread

misterID wrote:

No player is going to let a WR catch that pass, and they shouldn't. If Dunta would have tackled him he would've let him make that catch. He didn't launch, Jackson caught the ball, he was crossing through a zone defense. It wasn't illegal.

At any point you can say any player is defenseless.

war
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Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread

war wrote:

tackling is legal, yes.
But neither the NFL nor I am talking about tackles.
We're talking about major hits on defenseless players.

and no, players are not always defenseless.

When you have the ball secured, feet are planted, your eyes are out of the sky you are not considered defenseless and that accounts for 99.99 percent of the time when players are hit or tackled.

And nobody is even saying you can't tackle or even hit that player within that .01 percent of the time when they are defenseless...they are saying you can't hit them in such an ill-advised manner that their head and neck snap.

If you want to prevent the receiver from catching the ball, you either hit them where they are catching the ball or (If their body is in between you and the ball) you hit them with your chest and wrap your arms around theirs. It's next to impossible to catch a ball when your arms are tied up and you can still knock a person on their back and prevent them from catching a pass by hitting them in the mid section with your chest, shoulders, and arms.

These are professional athletes. They use their bodies for a living. They are capable of tackling while using common sense. Some of these guys are also the same players that celebrate after they make a big hit but after the opposite team gets a first down. They know what they are doing.....The game just isn't about fundamentals or even winning to them and there's only one way to attempt to solve that issue and make the game safer and the NFL is going to do what it takes to make it happen.

slashsfro
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Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread

slashsfro wrote:

Agreed on that. The Merriweather hit on Heap was pretty blatant and he wasn't making a play on the ball.

Communist China
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Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread

Sooooo close.

misterID
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Re: The 2010-11 NFL Season Thread

misterID wrote:

Vikings cut Randy Moss.... Good grief.

I do agree that he could have caught that bomb by Favre yesterday before he got KO'd out of the game And the TD pass he could have caught in the GB game.

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