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Re: Rolling Stone The 11 Greatest Rock Feuds Of All Time
Actually there was a rumor that Steven had the falling out with Axl, because Steven supposedly shot up Erin with an 8-ball while she was sleeping, and after that Axl was done with the guy. Don't know if it was true or not.
Axlin08 wrote:Still ruthless. He also fired his best friend from a band for doing the exact same thing he was doing at the exact same time and continued to do years later.
Felt the Adler thing is also worth mentioning.
Just to clear things. Steven was fired because he couldn't deliver anymore. He couldn't even play. Slash did play well despite his addiction. That was the difference. Had Steven been able to do CW for 5 tries, he wouldn't have been fired.
If there is any real cause to blame the other for firing Steven (although it's Steven who is responsible for it), it'd be their dealing with the Axl Rose factor. The whole band got frustrated of the never-ending process of the new album (compare it to CD
), but they couldn't do or didn't dare to do anything with Axl's disruptive mentality. So when the frustration was high, but something was finally happening, and Steven fucked up everything, they fired him. They projected all their Axl anger against the disfunctional druggie.
Fair enough.
Re: Rolling Stone The 11 Greatest Rock Feuds Of All Time
Actually there was a rumor that Steven had the falling out with Axl, because Steven supposedly shot up Erin with an 8-ball while she was sleeping
For the record, it was a speedball.
An 8 ball is simply a quantity of a drug substance(usually refers to an 1/8th of coke/meth). A speedball is commonly a mixture of coke/meth with heroin.
In the early 90s an 8 ball was only about 60 bucks. To quote Archie and Edith, "those were the days...."
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Slash is ruthless because he seems to turn on his lead singers like a rabid dog when things go awry
if you had someone messing with your entire career and income ..how would you behave?
Also, would you consider the idea that Slash maybe had such a bad time with Axl and ate so much shit that he's quite entitled to establish a clear line in the sand in terms of what he's willing to deal with next time 'round?
Considering how many years Axl put up with Slash being a junkie, Suddenly Scott was dirt
Scott was in VR for 5 years before he got the boot. He recorded the vocals for Contraband on day release from jail. The band (including Slash) waited a year for his sentence to finish before VR could come out. Hardly 'sudden' is it? Also, read what Duff said about how harrowing the final months were with Scott. This was not a solo Slash run, your venom is built off of something other than the facts..
VR seemed to make Scott Weiland a scapegoat awfully quick, when they teamed up for him BECAUSE of their mutual past history.
Eventually seeing a 43 year old man fall around stage mumbling, showing up late or not at all gets really fucking tired, especially when they stuck with him through multiple rehabs. Why should anyone tie their career to a sinking ship like Scott Weiland? I don't get your value system. These guys work together, its a job, a business, this is what happens.
That's what I meant by Slash is ruthless. If Axl has a hangup on the egotistical nature of guitarists, Slash & Izzy are just as hung up on singers
Maybe because they both had a really shit time with one? Slash has at least worked with other singers, Izzy never went there again! Does that make Izzy more ruthless than Slash?
And I guarantee you in a few years Slash will be talking about how much of a genius Scott is and how much he loves him and hopes they can get together again one day
That's called contrition and forgiveness. Would you rather Slash be an unceasingly bitter old bitch like Axl and NEVER forgive. Slash has already said he's ok with Scott. Now that his career doesn't depend on him he can probably relax with him. Judging by the train wreck that the STP tour became, the band and Slash were vindicated.
Again, I think you've made your mind up about Slash. Slash still has the friendship of every ex-member of the band. He's not the problem.
Much of what you said above is easily discounted by interviews with others much closer to the situation than you or I.
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No I don't think Slash is the problem. I just don't think he's a sweet widdle angel that got taken for a ride. I firmly believe his experience with lead singers over the years, pre-Axl, during-Axl, and post-Axl have soured his relationship with them as his experience has been of them being male diva's.
He's totally warranted in that. But I just feel his hands have dirt on them no different than Axl's.
But the proof is in the pudding. Considering the fact Slash continues to get jobs THROWN at him, and has worked with the likes of Dave Grohl, Chris Cornell, Alice In Chains, Fergie, Alice Cooper, Iggy Pop, Michael Jackson, in addition to Scott Weiland & Axl Rose, while Axl's buddies amount to Sebastian Bach, Chris Jericho & Korn... pretty much says it all.
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I guess we often forget its the music business and not music friendship.
I know as I've gotten older (40 now) I tolerate less and less shit that I don't appreciate. I suppose Slash is no different.
I agree he's no angel; he was a skag addict after all. I was shocked when the level of Izzy's heroin dealing was alluded to in Slash's book - that's some nasty shit. They were a rough bunch of dudes back in their day for sure.
If you look at Slash and Myles; Myles is sober, turns up on time and has his shit together, I think that’s all Slash wants. Myes is getting a full album to go at next. He's been rewarded. Slash doesn’t strike me as ruthless, just businesslike.
Back in the day with GNR, I guess the fact that such degenerates produced such sublime music that made them so rich and sucessful made them so many fans. The story was as good as the tunes. It’s the quintessential American Dream.
I'd say hanging with these guys in real life, we would find each of them very odd; only about 200 people in the world live their kind of lives. I've been watching 'Married to Rock' 'cause my wife is into it and all the rock dudes are a bit deluded, childlike and a bit pathetic really. 45 year old men wearing chains & shades at the breakfast table with their kids just looks sad..
Re: Rolling Stone The 11 Greatest Rock Feuds Of All Time
No I don't think Slash is the problem. I just don't think he's a sweet widdle angel that got taken for a ride. I firmly believe his experience with lead singers over the years, pre-Axl, during-Axl, and post-Axl have soured his relationship with them as his experience has been of them being male diva's.
He's totally warranted in that. But I just feel his hands have dirt on them no different than Axl's.
But the proof is in the pudding. Considering the fact Slash continues to get jobs THROWN at him, and has worked with the likes of Dave Grohl, Chris Cornell, Alice In Chains, Fergie, Alice Cooper, Iggy Pop, Michael Jackson, in addition to Scott Weiland & Axl Rose, while Axl's buddies amount to Sebastian Bach, Chris Jericho & Korn... pretty much says it all.
I've said before I think Slash is kind of like a battered woman.
He saw all the shit, put up with it for a while, then finally ends it. Problem is, he's attracted to the same kind of guy, so he's doomed to repeat the cycle.
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He saw all the shit, put up with it for a while, then finally ends it. Problem is, he's attracted to the same kind of guy, so he's doomed to repeat the cycle.
Man, that about sums it up..nice!!
