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Re: SLIPKNOT Frontman Says 'S**t' New Music Is To Blame For Illegal Do
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SLIPKNOT/STONE SOUR singer Corey Taylor has once again spoken out in defense of illegal music downloading, insisting that no one wants to pay for "crap" new music. He tells Britain's Kerrang! magazine, “I have a completely different take on this from a lot of other people. A lot of people in the industry want to blame downloading for the state of [the music business], but I think that if most music wasn't shit to begin with people wouldn't be downloading this stuff for free."
He continues, "Seriously, who the fuck wants to risk hard-earned money on music that's maybe 98 percent crap? I'm not going to. And I still buy new albums. People ask what my favorite new album is and nine times out of 10, I don't fucking have one. Music is garbage."
Taylor's latest comments echo those he made back in 2008 when he told Kerrang!, "Why would you blame [people who download music]? Half the fucking albums that are out there are shit. I don't download, but at the same time, I don't buy new music 'cause it all sucks. Okay, there's a handful of bands that I buy, but other than that, I just buy old shit because old shit is good. Sorry!"
"People wanna blame the decline of album sales on downloading, I think it's actually the record companies' fault," he added. "I think it's the quality of the product. If record companies would stop giving any fucking mook on the street with a fringe a record deal or their own record label, maybe you would sell more fucking albums, dipshits."
- monkeychow
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Re: SLIPKNOT Frontman Says 'S**t' New Music Is To Blame For Illegal Do
Doesn't make sense to me.
If the music is so shit then why bother downloading it either.
I'm suposed to believe It's shit enough that it's not worth paying for, but interesting enough to hunt it out on a torrent?
Bottom line to me is that people have limited disposable income for entertainment, if they can get something free, they can spend the dollars on some other entertainment and get both.
Only exception is if you add enough other value that they still feel they loose something (eg artist goodwill, tactile experience of holding the cover etc).
But in general people steal music because they can.
I bet you the most illegally downloaded songs of all time would be neraly the same list as the most purchased - it's not like the good stuff would be in the top 40 and the shit would be on the free list.
- monkeychow
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Re: SLIPKNOT Frontman Says 'S**t' New Music Is To Blame For Illegal Do
^ yeah that's a fair point.
I agree that's a factor...people don't want to pay for 1 good song and 8 filler songs in a package, and they shouldn't have to. That was a factor in downloading taking off.
But I don't think it's really because the music is worse now either though. There's always been great bands and less great acts. There's always been manafactured acts, hidden talent acts, genius acts, the whole range of the spectrum.
I think if the technology had existed in the home for people to torrent music in 1985 they would have done so.
It's not to do with the industry it's to do with human nature.
There's a ton of things competing for your entertainment part of your budget, there's new DVDs to see, there's new Xbox games to play, there's live shows, there's having a drink with mates...and endless other choices...
If you have the ability to get one of them free, that just frees up money for the others.
Some amongst us will choose to pay anyway to support the artist, or for some other particular preference (eg wanting lossless audio, or not risking viruses or liking a vinal version or something) but the majority of folks...if they can get it free they will...and why wouldn't they?
Think about the supermarket. If you had the ability to get all the food at the supermarket free without getting in trouble...why the hell would you buy it each week? you might have some motivation to - supporting the local business and empolyment or whatever....but you'd have to justify that 'wasted' money to yourself.
And IMO that's the problem for the industry not quality of releases...any time you ask someone to choose to pay for something they don't have to, you will only succeed a fraction of the time.
Re: SLIPKNOT Frontman Says 'S**t' New Music Is To Blame For Illegal Do
I find it funny that cover on Kerrang with Corey, talking about what he's talking about and right beside his name is 'Paramore' and below it 'My Chemical Romance'.
It proves his point. Groups/bands just like that are the reason music is the shit it is today. Those are the popular artists and they fucking blow.
Russ is also right. We got raped as music fans for years paying $20 fucking dollars for a CD, and we were obviously treated as "means to an end" and business associates.
Music is no different than any other product consumers buy. As manufactuers, the music industry has the right to charge for their product. And we as the consumers of that product have the right to find an alternative to save money on cheaper alternatives to that product. No different than Generic drugs to Brand Name. Or 50-cent off coupons. Or 30% off sales.
We did. Except this time, the alternative we found was 'free'. That's the hypocritical bullshit that is 'Free Enterprise', 'Free Market', and 'Capitalism'. When the businesses are making money hand over fist, they are simply being American. But when consumers find a way to circumvent their business model, we are jailed and labeled criminals.
No different if I bought a surplus of opioids through the black market and then distributed them for free to the poor who have legit painful medical conditions, i'd be jailed for illegal distribution. But if a drug company charges $100 bucks for a 30-day supply to those same people - it's legal.
This entire country is built around protecting business interests, and not the consumer.
In the words of my main man Axl - "I say fuck that".
I buy albums and support artists that I like, but I do it as a FRIEND. I don't see any issue with bootlegging. If they don't like it, get out of music or make music better. Simple as that.
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Re: SLIPKNOT Frontman Says 'S**t' New Music Is To Blame For Illegal Do
metallex78 wrote:CDs should have been cheap when they first came out, as everyone was replacing their old vinyl and cassettes with this new digital technology which was supposedly superior.
But instead, they were charging $30 per CD (in Australia they were).
And the problem started with that most people were replacing old music they already had, which they already knew was good. It's when new artists were releasing crap, and your collection was already full of good old stuff, how could justify spending $30 on a new CD that would be shit aside from a few songs?
I remember chatting with a CD store owner who's store was closing a few years ago, and he was complaining that the price of CDs hadn't gone up in 10-15 years, and he was struggling to sell enough to get by.
Well, if record companies released CDs at a price that was reasonable back in the day, we would have expected inflation like with anything else. But fuck man, starting at $30, did they expect prices to then go up to $40 and $50? I don't fucking think so!
They ripped us off for years, and I think it's great that CDs are back at $20, and some even $10 now. That's what they should have been charging to begin with!
I still buy CDs of the bands I dig, to support them, even though the money isn't really going to them, moreso the record companies.
Re: SLIPKNOT Frontman Says 'S**t' New Music Is To Blame For Illegal Do
I remember when Ozzy's "Scream" was released new this year... out of the gate it was $7.99 at most places.
That's what CD's should've cost from the beginning. 'Cause if they can sell them at that in 2011, and not 1985, they could've been charging even less 25 years ago.
