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Re: 2011-2012 NFL Season Thread
Thank god. I wouldn't have known what to do with myself on Sundays and Mondays in the fall/winter. Lots of player movement over the last couple of days and that should continue. They've got a lot of catching up to do.
Damn straight we'll do the fantasy league again. I just have to reactivate it one of these days and an email will be sent out to each of you.
- FlashFlood
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Re: 2011-2012 NFL Season Thread
don't bother reactivating just hand me the title now!
Re: 2011-2012 NFL Season Thread
don't bother reactivating just hand me the title now!
We'll just see about that.
Patriots made a big splash today trading for Albert Haynesworth. People generally seem to LOVE the deal. It's low risk. I'm not overly excited though. The guy completely shut it down in Washington after he got his big payday. Hopefully he comes in with the right attitude and returns to form as one of the best defensive players in football. He could be the missing ingredient the Patriots have been lacking in their pass rush the last few seasons. IF he gets his head on straight.
They only gave up a 5th round pick for him though, and they owe him $5.4 million for next season. So again, low risk.
- FlashFlood
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they owe 5.4 million if he actually plays. they can cut him and pay him shit
- FlashFlood
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now they get ochocinco, bill's boy. interesting camp for the pats.
Re: 2011-2012 NFL Season Thread
Cardinals take a big gamble on Kolb
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
4 hours, 47 minutes ago
At the beginning of last season, Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid looked at his quarterback depth chart, saw the names Kevin Kolb(notes) and Michael Vick(notes), and decided Kolb should be the starter.
That Reid believed in him has to be the core tenet of anyone’s faith in Kolb, whose body of work is so scarce after four years in the league that no one can say for sure if he can become a legitimate starter.
That includes the Arizona Cardinals, who rolled the dice heavy Thursday, reportedly shipping a 2012 second-round pick and former Pro Bowl cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie(notes) to Philly for a guy who threw for seven touchdowns and had seven interceptions in seven games last season.
Oh, and they also reportedly handed Kolb a five-year, $63 million contract, $20 million of which is guaranteed.
That’s a big bet on a player with little proven production.
Could Kolb work out? Well, of course. If it weren’t for the electric and unexpected reemergence of Vick, Kolb likely would’ve been the Eagles’ starter all season. Instead Vick became one of the five or so best quarterbacks in the league, and Kolb became trade bait. It’s not that anyone knows Kolb isn’t good. It’s that no one knows if he is. That’s the risk.
We’ll assume general manager Rod Graves and coach Ken Whisenhunt watched endless film on Kolb and saw the signs that he is a legitimate starting quarterback. We’ll assume they take Reid’s trust in Kolb as a sign they have someone who can win games. We’ll assume they focused on his 23-of-29, 326-yard, three-touchdown effort in a victory over the Atlanta Falcons and not some of his less impressive games.
We’ll assume the above so convinced them he was a difference maker that they saw no need to offer the same package of player and pick to move up in the draft and take a college star. Or shift gears and try to get the Denver Broncos to trade Kyle Orton(notes), who is a far more established commodity.
We’ll assume it because they’ve proven to be smart men and they know this move could prove defining for Kolb and the Cardinals.
On Arizona’s side is the fact it may only need a competent quarterback to win the NFC West. Nowhere else in the NFL is a playoff spot so tantalizingly attainable.
The St. Louis Rams also went 7-9 and there is little doubt in the ability of their quarterback, Sam Bradford(notes). However, the Rams face a brutal schedule, particularly early. The first seven weeks include games against Philadelphia, the New York Giants, at Baltimore, at Green Bay, at Dallas and New Orleans. The Rams could be a lot better this year and start 2-5.
San Francisco may be the best all-around team in the division, but still plan on trotting out Alex Smith behind center.
The NFC West is wide open, as much this year as last when eight victories would’ve clinched it. Half the preseason speculation is about whether teams will attempt to tank the season in an effort to grab Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck.
Arizona won just five games a year ago, mainly because the triumvirate of Derek Anderson(notes), John Skelton(notes) and Max Hall(notes) combined to throw just 10 touchdown passes. And that’s with Larry Fitzgerald(notes).
Desperate times call for desperate measures, and that quarterback rotation will make a desperate man out of any coach.
So now here comes Kolb, the desperation move. Or perhaps the product of some savvy scouting. This is either acquiring a talent so promising that Reid traded Donovan McNabb(notes) a year ago, a franchise-shaking move at the time, and pledged allegiance to him. Or it’s risking a lot on an inconsistent thrower that couldn’t keep Vick off the field.
At this point, Arizona is all in with Kevin Kolb. Nothing less than a potential division title hangs in the balance.
Re: 2011-2012 NFL Season Thread
they owe 5.4 million if he actually plays. they can cut him and pay him shit
As long as they cut him in camp or in the preseason. If he makes the team and is on the opening day roster, they owe him the full amount regardless of what happens from there on out. At least that's how I understand it. So technically he could play nice until week 1, then get back to his crazy antics and they'd still owe him the cash. So they better get a good feel if his head is really into it early on.
As for Chad, I think there's even less risk there. I know people get on him for his on field antics but he's just out there having fun. I've never had a problem with the way he plays the game. I don't think he's quite the player he once was, but I do think he's exactly what the Patriots needed. A reliable 3rd receiver who could even fill in as a 2 or a 1, if Branch or Welker goes down. Brandon Tate was cutting it last year.
Some exciting moves for the Pats in theory. We'll see if they work out. But they've filled 2 huge needs with these two moves, so for now it looks good.
