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Communist China
 Rep: 130 

Re: Norways 9/11

I think a non-violent society's approach to gun ownership would be to have no restrictions on it. Banning things is inherently violent, and the necessity for a ban would seemingly refute the society's supposed nonviolent culture.

But I think your attitude with respect to history is very admirable, it can be easy to lose in the midst of such shocking current events, but is essential to retain. Although I would say that history doesn't repeat, it rhymes.

DCK
 Rep: 207 

Re: Norways 9/11

DCK wrote:

Rhymes would actually be a better term than repeat. Good choice.

buzzsaw
 Rep: 423 

Re: Norways 9/11

buzzsaw wrote:

I think the problem with gun bans is the criminals are still going to have them, but the good people won't. 

A friend of mine works for a car insurance company and apparently the state passed a law that says you lose your license if you get caught driving without insurance.  I told her that then they will just drive around without a license and insurance.  If they are already proven to not care about breaking one law, it's highly unlikely that breaking another will bother them at all.

So you ban guns and none of the bad guys have to worry about anything.

DCK
 Rep: 207 

Re: Norways 9/11

DCK wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I think the problem with gun bans is the criminals are still going to have them, but the good people won't. 

A friend of mine works for a car insurance company and apparently the state passed a law that says you lose your license if you get caught driving without insurance.  I told her that then they will just drive around without a license and insurance.  If they are already proven to not care about breaking one law, it's highly unlikely that breaking another will bother them at all.

So you ban guns and none of the bad guys have to worry about anything.

No, you have to take one step further behind than that and imagine a whole other society. A gun ban in the USA is dead in the water. There's too many people with guns already, and already an established criminal way of handling it.

Norway is very different from that. The last incident might point otherwise, but in reality our strict gun laws, an almost possible way of getting guns have created a society which does not need guns to function and be safe. It may sound odd, but that's the way it is even with one crazy extreme right lunatic gunning down kids in numbers.

Our guns are banned and our bad guys does not have the oppertunity to shop for guns. They exist yes, but in smaller numbers. The last thing we would like, is having a society like the US with your gun laws. It's looked at with puzzlement. An almost tragic comedy.

Even with one huge exception to this, it's working and it has been working for 70 years. There will always be things happening, and this will happen again. 10 years, 50 years, maybe a 100 years down the road. It always has. But all in all, our strict gun laws is one of the things I admire most about my country and despise the most about USA. Just as I admire so many other things in the USA which I try to use as an inspiration for how I do things here.

Axlin16
 Rep: 768 

Re: Norways 9/11

Axlin16 wrote:

I do not, nor will I ever trust anyone in my vicinity, city, county, state, country, the world, or intergalactic planets to EVER give up my weapons.

Even if I don't have a gun, i'd still want my crossbow.

DCK
 Rep: 207 

Re: Norways 9/11

DCK wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

I do not, nor will I ever trust anyone in my vicinity, city, county, state, country, the world, or intergalactic planets to EVER give up my weapons.

Even if I don't have a gun, i'd still want my crossbow.

And we don't want either guns or weapons in our homes or anywhere near our homes. That's just how it is.

Axlin16
 Rep: 768 

Re: Norways 9/11

Axlin16 wrote:

Cool my man.


And when the boogieman comes for you, I don't mind taking point for you.

polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

Re: Norways 9/11

polluxlm wrote:

The character reportedly took a nose job in the early 00s. Why is it then that he posts pre nose job pictures of himself on the facebook account created a few days before the act? If you'd just lost 50 pounds, would your first picture be of when you were fat? Would any? And this from a character that is so concerned about his looks he didn't want his picture taken in court.

Who changed his facebook account, after the act?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzr7Kz_J … VAkFTO0%3D

Why do we have CCTV cameras if they're never going to work during a terror event?

How exactly do you shoot 1 person pr minute for 90 minutes in open terrain using only 180 bullets?

Why is there not a single picture showing more than 10-20 survivors when there were 600 people on the island?

This is a very big car:

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Also nice to see that the rescue workers are able to have a laugh in the middle of all of this.

Slight headache?

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yikes

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CGI blitz hard to synch?

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DCK
 Rep: 207 

Re: Norways 9/11

DCK wrote:

To make conspiracy theories is just flat out rude

buzzsaw
 Rep: 423 

Re: Norways 9/11

buzzsaw wrote:
DCK wrote:

To make conspiracy theories is just flat out rude

Get used to it.  As shown in the small world that is GnR, people will believe whatever they want to believe.  We're all guilty of it to some extent...it's human nature.

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