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Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
Well, most bands are like that to be honest. Once they make it they rarely see each other and hardly ever hang out. From the interviews bands point to that as a reason they're able to keep a band together. So, I disagree there. It's not that unusual. Even for Guns after AFD, they didn't see each other for long stretches of time.
Axl hasn't changed his habits since 91. Maybe it's time he at least tweaked them. And maybe try singing the old songs in a different range like Elton John sings his old songs.
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Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
Estranged TV broadcast.
I notice he hangs around during the instrumentals instead of running backstage like usual.
Just watched again since seeing it live. Its his best vocal of the night, but still lacks power in so many places. Its good, but not best version of that song by a long shot.
Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
Well, most bands are like that to be honest. Once they make it they rarely see each other and hardly ever hang out. From the interviews bands point to that as a reason they're able to keep a band together. So, I disagree there. It's not that unusual. Even for Guns after AFD, they didn't see each other for long stretches.
Axl hasn't changed his habits since 91. Maybe it's time he at least tweaked them. And maybe try singing the old songs in a different range like Elton John does.
Yeah, not seeing each other in a year is meaningless. These are grown men with their own lives and Axl has never been one to rehearse with the band, for better or for worse.
Ali
Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
Aussie wrote:After Patience and before PC it sounds like someone says (presumably to Axl):
"Aww Man I haven't seen you in a little over a year, it sounded pretty fucken good as far as I'm concerned".
That was definitely Tommy. He was really trying to build Axl up at the beginning of PC.
DCK wrote:So, no new songs and Estranged. One hit, and one miss. No new songs is a disaster. Axl have had bad shows before, just too shitty it came at RIR, supposed to be a major comeback sort of deal. Not good.
Definitely agree. He needed new songs. That was a failure. It would have made up for the lack luster feeling of the rest of it.
I can't believe how off Ron was. Maybe it had something to do with the accident? He totaly blew the Jungle and Nightrain performance.
I'll say it again, they need Slash and Izzy back. Not just one or the other, but both. They played off each other fantastically.
I'm not slagging Ron and DJ, though. I loved them on CD and how they changed Mr. Brownstone. Sounded good.
Fixed it
hey, someone had to bust the cherry 
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Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
Smoking Guns wrote:misterID wrote:That's it!
Yup, that's what he said.
And holy shit Axl's face at the start of that clip. He looks REAL DOWN.
Too painful to watch. Very sad. Axl looks so lonely, and deep down he probably thinks, "Slash and that dude Myles sound much better than me and my band right now, what the fuck has happened to me, I can't sing, my monitor doesn't work, and DJ still fucks up patience after 5 years"...
Myles isn't all that, honestly. He has no stage presence and while has a good voice from technical perspective, it's bland as hell. Fail on your part
Ali
I was trolling with that bit about Slash and Myles, but honestly, that band is MUCH tighter than what you saw last night, and you know it. And, unlike Axl, bland voice or not, Myles is pro that hits a HIGH percentage of Axl's notes, let alone the notes in his own songs (which Axl couldn't hit many last night). But yeah, I knew the Myles bit would get a rise out of you.
Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
misterID wrote:Well, most bands are like that to be honest. Once they make it they rarely see each other and hardly ever hang out. From the interviews bands point to that as a reason they're able to keep a band together. So, I disagree there. It's not that unusual. Even for Guns after AFD, they didn't see each other for long stretches.
Axl hasn't changed his habits since 91. Maybe it's time he at least tweaked them. And maybe try singing the old songs in a different range like Elton John does.
Yeah, not seeing each other in a year is meaningless. These are grown men with their own lives and Axl has never been one to rehearse with the band, for better or for worse.
Ali
it's not unusual but it's also definitely not meaningless - it reconfirms all the bad news we've heard or assumed about this band. the only direction they're heading is towards easy money - but when you're as lazy as Axl then nothing comes easily.
again to stress the point it's 4 yrs since CD & the most we have to go on about new material was Tommy's admission & guesses from an interview/twitter a few weeks back.
it's evidence there is zero desire to move this band forward, that there's zero desire to try.
edit - & we all know how well it's work post-AFD the band being separated by such distances..
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Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
misterID wrote:Well, most bands are like that to be honest. Once they make it they rarely see each other and hardly ever hang out. From the interviews bands point to that as a reason they're able to keep a band together. So, I disagree there. It's not that unusual. Even for Guns after AFD, they didn't see each other for long stretches.
Axl hasn't changed his habits since 91. Maybe it's time he at least tweaked them. And maybe try singing the old songs in a different range like Elton John does.
Yeah, not seeing each other in a year is meaningless. These are grown men with their own lives and Axl has never been one to rehearse with the band, for better or for worse.
Ali
Don't agree Ali, their lack of preparing is the main reason they sounded like a monkey trying to fuck a football out there. This is how they make money, its the ONE thing they should take serious...
Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
In Cramer's defense, Estranged didn't sound this good... But, in comparison to all the other songs, it was fantastic.
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First one is the live era version, where Axl did overdubs back in 99... The second one is straight up Tokyo version.
Yeah and like i was tryin to tell people last night.. Axl was singing that well running dead sprints.
its ok to overreact a tad though.. I was excited as fuck hearing it again but the prisoner of the moment hyperbole went a little overboard.
