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- tejastech08
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Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
Well, after Dublin last year we all were ringing this is the end of GNR siren also... They got through that
so.... I'm sure they will carry on
Not the same deal at all. Rio is like Axl's Super Bowl and he choked worse than a gagging porn star.
Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
This was just posted to my facebook page, not by me . Anyone who thinks this shit show won't hit the general public is living in la la land. The genral public Love Axl but the also love to hate Axl. This shit is gold for them so... Comments on youtube on all sorts of GnR RIR '11 videos with people saying they were thinking about getting tickets for the tour but not anymore.
the fact a video like this is already up on youtube speaks volumes. the worst part in my mind is watching him sulk around on stage kicking at the water like a 6 year old kid having a temper tantrum. It's so not endearing in any way shape or form from a guy who's almost 50. At least when he was in his 20's you could use the excuse that he was acting out in his "rebelious youth". Now he's just an old man acting like a baby.
I'll quietly predict that whenever this US tour ends that'll be the last we hear from Axl for a VERY long time. Just a prediction and yeah some will say that's overreacting and it's too early for predictions but the same people will always say it's "too early" to predict anything. They're called predictions so you make them before hand. the only thing that saves this anymore is new material in the form of an album. New live songs aren't gonna cut it anymore I don't think. It would be cool but it's not what's gonna right the ship. It's like last night was the sailing of the new era ship. Funny thing is the ship has never even really left the dock. The fans support this band for so many years and hold on to faith that eventually they are gonna get something really great and then last night happens? I don't get it.
If I had my say I'd say screw the US tour and just record an album as a band, as friends(if they are even that). Yes I get the folks in the States want a US tour and quite frankly this may be the last one but I agree with tejastech08 it's time to call it a day. Hole up in the studio record some music, create a body of work not that of the old band and then maybe down the road tour your songs in smaller venues on your own merrit with a new name. Gee the name "Axl Rose" might work even. Stop with the Guns N' Roses farce.
If he was in a bad spot, why not just yell into the mic "Rio help me out" and let the crowd sing the lyrics.... i mean 90k... shouldn't be a problem
Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
-D- wrote:Well, after Dublin last year we all were ringing this is the end of GNR siren also... They got through that
so.... I'm sure they will carry on
Not the same deal at all. Rio is like Axl's Super Bowl and he choked worse than a gagging porn star.
I just honest to God can't understand how anybody can find the slightest thing Good about this concert as a whole. had a few nice moments.. but overall... are people tone deaf? Just so overzealous they can't hear properly?
- Jimmy Zig Zag Bobiadis
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Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
I didn't catch the show last night. Does anyone know if its available for download yet?
Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
Very sad to watch. However the general public, the everyday average fans, don't care or even know about GnR @ RIR. They simply don't.
You're looking at it from a hyper focused POV (GNR forum junky) where everything is overblown, over analyzed and over thought.
Does this spell out doom for the tour? Not necessarily. Ultimately it depends on what Axl's problem was last night.
Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
I had to go get a train yesterday during Dizzy's piano part.
His voice was like helium on a few tracks and terrible on the "You Could Be Mine" video I saw, but there is no way that this gig was the worst thing ever.
A fucking crowd that sings along to "Chinese Democracy" songs like "This I Love" like they were hits in the set list and "Estranged" being played for the first time in 18 years with the vast majority of the fanbase seeming to think it was brilliant when it was happening.
Don't give a fuck if they played "November Rain" on a banjo after that and pissed themselves on stage, no way was that show all fucking bad.
- Mikkamakka
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Bono wrote:madagas wrote:They nailed it, and you could tell they cared...probably cared more than Slash did when he did it back in the day.
Let's make sure that is kept in context though. They only cared more(argueably) because it wasn't their song to fuck up and they knew what that song means to the hardcore fanbase. they were tackeling a classic than many feel is Guns n" Roses greatest achievment. That song was Slash's song to fuck up, it wasn't these guys song to fuck up and had they fucked that song up shit would really have hit the fan. Thats' why i think they cared so much. the pressure was on big time for that one. But it's not like it ment more to them than Slash as far as anytnig personal goes. At least i wouldn't believe so.
I think their performance of Estranged was flat out awesome.
agree, they cared because they knew how much the fans cared...as for Slash caring, not so sure how much he cared at the time because every interview he gives he slags a little on the epics. I have never heard him say anything all that positive about Estranged. He always seems to talk about the difficulties in recording those epic tunes. Show me an interview where he says, "Hey, Axl really wrote some great lyrics and the piano melodies were cool. It really gave me an opportunity to branch out and be all that I can be." If he did an interview like that, I 'd like to see it.
GN'R just did its worst show in its entirely history and you're complaining about Slash?? Some other hateful comments in the thread against the man who wasn't even there, while some here (not you) are trying to lie even to themselves about the RIR catastrophe, finding excuses or simply saying that black is white. You made very good posts in this topic, but your hatred has just overgrown.
Slash did justice to that song every fuckin' night, and even if he made mistakes, he always gave 100%. Always. Even when he was dead and brought to hospital a day before. Fuck this shit. It's not Slash who didn't care enough.
BTW as much as Axl deserved it for his laziness and not giving a fuck about his own fans, I feel sorry for him. He was in a very bad shape, that was painful to even watch, I can imagine how bad it could have been for him. I hope he'll get better, cause I've never seen anyone so helpless, sad and lonely on a stage. He looked dying.
Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
Does this spell out doom for the tour? Not necessarily. Ultimately it depends on what Axl's problem was last night.
I think that is the key. Axl can move on from just having an off night. What was more worrying is what caused him to have the shit performance.
During that gig he really looked to be struggling mentally/emotionally at times. No idea if he was unwell or if there was something troubling him. Or maybe it was as simple as just berrating himself for screwing the lyrics a few times? Whatever it was he sure did appear to be quite down.
So unless he can get himself out of that rut and start thinking of his happy place, it might be harder for him to turn this around than simply remembering all of his lyrics next time.
- Mikkamakka
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Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
From someone 'not caring':
Slash: It's one of Axl's babies, where he sat down and he had something he really wanted to express, and he wrote it on piano. And so there came the time when the band had to figure out where the bass is gonna come in, where the guitar is gonna come in. This and that. And so, I did all the guitar arrangements on it and wrote the guitar melodies, which are pretty important to the song now, I would say. 'Cause you recognize 'em, you know. That's that. That's why I have credit on it [GN'R on WNEW 102.7 - September, 1991].
Slash: There were a few songs that were very involved guitar-wise on those albums. 'Estranged' was a big, long song. I used a Les Paul Gold Top on it; I recorded all of the melodies on the rhythm pickup with the tone turned all the way down. 'November Rain' was tough, too, as was another Axl song called 'Breakdown.' Those were all piano driven and they needed accompaniment; the guitar and bass parts had to be thought out and done precisely. Those songs were all pretty fucking cool, I have to say, but they took some work [Bozza, Anthony, & Slash (2007). Slash. Harper Entertainment: New York, pp 316].
Slash: It was hard to arrange [November Rain] and Estranged, because they were so open-ended and we had to cut November Rain. But those were Axl's epic piano pieces and they were both breakthrough guitar solos for me. Real melody solos, y'know? I had some good sounds and they were melodically very spontaneous [Music Radar, September 2011].
- Mikkamakka
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Re: Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio
I didn't catch the show last night. Does anyone know if its available for download yet?
It's up on dimeadozen.org
