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Re: GNRevolution Exclusive! Classic Rock Feb Mag Cover!
Axl isn't king of the world. Only thing he can prevent is his own album from being released. People need to realize that the ONLY influence he has is in his circle of sycophants, and even that influence is debatable because they play as much of a role in what goes on as he does.
Twenty articles could come out like this every month and there's nothing anyone could do about it. If they could prevent articles, they would have killed that NYT article in 05 because it was the first real look behind the curtain and it wasn't pretty.
Re: GNRevolution Exclusive! Classic Rock Feb Mag Cover!
I don't think "block" is the correct word, but I think Axl could stop an article from being published. The problem is, he'd have to give them something in return. These guys want to sell magazines, so I'm sure any of them would drop an article for say an interview with the man himself. Unfortunately, it seems Axl doesn't want to talk quite yet.
Re: GNRevolution Exclusive! Classic Rock Feb Mag Cover!
Jameslofton wrote:Axl isn't king of the world. Only thing he can prevent is his own album from being released. People need to realize that the ONLY influence he has is in his circle of sycophants, and even that influence is debatable because they play as much of a role in what goes on as he does.
Twenty articles could come out like this every month and there's nothing anyone could do about it. If they could prevent articles, they would have killed that NYT article in 05 because it was the first real look behind the curtain and it wasn't pretty.
Sorry to sound like an idiot, but what is the NYT article people have made reference to? I must be forgetting something.
It's the one that broke down the costs of CD. $13 million down the terlet.
Re: GNRevolution Exclusive! Classic Rock Feb Mag Cover!
Jameslofton wrote:Axl isn't king of the world. Only thing he can prevent is his own album from being released. People need to realize that the ONLY influence he has is in his circle of sycophants, and even that influence is debatable because they play as much of a role in what goes on as he does.
Twenty articles could come out like this every month and there's nothing anyone could do about it. If they could prevent articles, they would have killed that NYT article in 05 because it was the first real look behind the curtain and it wasn't pretty.
Sorry to sound like an idiot, but what is the NYT article people have made reference to? I must be forgetting something.
2005 article in the New York Times. GNR camp shit a brick when it was published, and Merck went on a tirade claiming 2005 was "the year of Guns n Roses". When he was fired, pretty much admitted it was all true in his last public statement.
Re: GNRevolution Exclusive! Classic Rock Feb Mag Cover!
2005 article in the New York Times. GNR camp shit a brick when it was published, and Merck went on a tirade claiming 2005 was "the year of Guns n Roses". When he was fired, pretty much admitted it was all true in his last public statement.
Here was the response to that article:
Sir - I find it remarkable that the New York Times - a newspaper of some repute - has chosen to run an article on the making of the forthcoming Guns N' Roses album Chinese Democracy without even bothering to talk to anyone who has actually been involved in the making of the album. You quote 5 people on the record all of whom with the exception of Tom Zutaut have been out of the picture for between 6 and 9 years and like the author of your article have never even heard the album! Tom Zutaut himself has not been involved for three years and has heard virtually none of the actual record. Your journalist Jeff Leeds - is this the return of Jayson Blair under a pseudonym? - contacted us last Thursday the 24th of February to inform us he had been working on an article about the "process" of making the album. I explained that it was not possible for him to write such a story as he had not spoken to the band, our 2 engineers, myself or most importantly Axl all of whom have been working on the actual album for the last two years and enquired how he could write an investigative report with any integrity without doing so. I also asked why if he was reporting on the "process" why we were the last people he was contacting as it was obvious from the discussion that he had been working on this for a number of weeks. Contrary to his blatant lie that he was told by "management" that W. Axl Rose "could not be reached for comment" I made it clear that we could not consider his request for an interview with either Axl or myself until we knew who the other people involved in the article were as we were not going to lend credibility to an article that was based on hearsay from people that have not only had nothing to do with the album but whose only agenda was to recapture their 15 minutes of fame in an industry that had cast them aside and left them unemployed many years ago. Mr Leeds told me he would call this week once he had considered our position so that we could discuss it further. This past Monday the 27th at 6 pm he left a message with my office saying that his deadline to file the story was 12 pm the following day. I called him immediately on receipt of the message the following morning and reminded him that we had made an agreement that he would consider whether he was going to divulge the people involved in the article following which I would then contact Axl and we could consider whether to participate and asked why he had not mentioned that he was working to a tight deadline when we had previously spoken. I also made the point that this piece was not "news" nor was it "fragile" and that surely if his article was to genuinely be about the "process" then he must speak to someone who was involved. After much discussion with Mr Leeds it was clear that both the writer and the Times had it's own agenda and that it was not only not interested in presenting an accurate view but both he and his editor refused my request for 24 hours to discuss the situation with Axl despite the fact that the story was scheduled to run 6 days later! It should also be mentioned that during our initial conversation the writer was offered the opportunity to hear the album in the studio when it was finished and talk to people who were directly involved and declined in favour of the article you have chosen to run. As one of the few people involved in the making of this album I can tell your readers the following. W, Axl Rose is not interested in fame, money, popularity or what the New York Times or any other paper for that matter might think of him. His only interest is making the best album he is capable of so that it can have a positive affect in 2005 on people who are enthusiasts of music and interested in Guns N' Roses. His artistic integrity is such that he has chosen to do so without compromise at great personal sacrifice which makes him a soft target for the sort of rubbish you have chosen to print. I believe he will have the last laugh.
Sincerely,
Merck Mercuriadis
Chief Executive Officer
Re: GNRevolution Exclusive! Classic Rock Feb Mag Cover!
What's the fuckin' problem with the Classic Rock article, anyway? Like this is shit we didn't know? I mean, some of it maybe not to this ... extent of eccentricity, but still. This is nothing groundbreaking. It's a good read. A damn good read. But let me tell you something; Mysteron, the infamous "insider"? His word is worth about two things, jack and shit. You know the rest. Go ahead and ask me a question about GN'R and I will answer you in a Mysteron voice, you'd be surprised how convincing bullshit can be. Classic Rock has done more to promote this band in recent years than the band, the band's record label, or other message boards. They're a classy magazine, and that article with Zoot is no more damaging than Axl's own press releases. I won't talk about that other site because I have friends over there and I choose not to take things to a personal level, and they know that, but there's a clear conflict with how information is relayed over there. Apparently, Beta has no problem opening up to Classic Rock, but her official fan club won't let anyone talk about it? Give me a break.
Re: GNRevolution Exclusive! Classic Rock Feb Mag Cover!
AtariLegend wrote:A response...
Mysteron wrote:As far as I am aware, alot of the work for CD took place in the last few years, post the Zutaut era. That makes the Classic Rock article nothing more than tabloid blood for the gossip vampires.
Yeah, Axl had to finish the vocals, since the music was done long before (according to Tommy, 2004).
so mr Zutaut is blatantly lying then? i mean really... the only thing i can think of then is that CD was rejected again in 2002 as we've hypothesized before...and they went back to square one after the 02 tour fall out...that would be the only way that mysterons comment would make sense
unless only a handful of tracks done under Zutaut's watch were at all decent
