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Re: North American Tour Stats for new Gnr
2006 was such a wasted year. Axl never sounded better in the new band era the band had real momentum.:
I personally thought he sounded best in 2010 but I can't argue they had momentum going in 2006. Axl looked cool, the freak show aspect of Guns was gone so it was more appealing visually tot he general public. As always Axl will be a front runner for biggest waste of musical talent ever
Re: North American Tour Stats for new Gnr
Bullshit. Original GN'R was destined to crash and burn no matter what.
Oh give it a rest. We all know the potential was there to be the next Zeppelin or Stones but Axl wanted to hibernate and waste his fucking talent. Axl Rose wasted his talent more than anyone else. Why? because he's done fuck all creatively the last 20 years.
- Intercourse
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Its so true.
Axl wrote checks his talent couldn't cash. It took him 15 years to get over the shock that he wasn't going to outdo the old GNR formula on his own.
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well IMO the AFD & UYI-era GnR were comparable to the stones & zeppelin.
however, they coulda been indisputably the greatest single thing in rock n roll, if they'd gotten over their stupidity & ego-tripping. Izzy's songs channeled thru Slash/Duff & Axl were the next step on a hard-psych-rock trip that woulda melted everything that went before. e.g. PTU, DTJ. man, that's where it was fucking at. & they fucking blew it cause of their personal failings. they being axl & slash, of course.
they weren't destined to crash & burn. they had the greatest songwriting talent of any american rock band but they didn't think highly enough of it, of that synergy & thought too highly of themselves. if they'd focused on what made them, & what made them great, instead of petty Bizness BS, they wouldn't have crash & burned.
there is always a way. they didn't wanna take it. axl couldn't hack it.
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Bullshit. Original GN'R was destined to crash and burn no matter what.
Completely disagree with that ID.
Look at what *should* have happened:
Axl - martyred on the alter of rock cobain style or in jail for killing someone in a temper
Steven - dies from long term drug abuse
Duff - drinks himself to death
Slash - accidental OD
but NONE of that has happened has it?
Axl found a way to keep himself within some kind of limits....Slash got clean and kicks ass now...duff is a marital arts god.....
Bottom line is if they'd only found a way to remain friends, and sort out their bullshit - which I fully blame both Axl AND slash for - there is a ton of amazing material they would have put out...and GNR would now be like U2 or the Stones....
- Intercourse
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Its hard to know if Axl could have been managed, no matter who came in.
He never liked his authority to be challenged so managers were never going to work well.
These boys needed help to manage the extreme nature of their fame and lifestyles. They needed to be taught how to balance drugs and alcohol with being bosses of a huge corporation - all at 23. They needed a mentor.
U2 had Paul McGuinness and Zep had Peter Grant, both men were crucial to the continued success of the bands as they transitioned from citizens to icons.
However, when compared to these other bands, Axl seems to be the only lead singer who was always keen to hold his potential departure from the band as a constant threat and bargaining chip when dealing with the others.
No other singer in a massive band appears to have done that.
They knew who buttered the bread.
Apparently Axl was either to mad or arrogant to realise his true place & role and to stick to it.
