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polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

Re: Drug prohibition at an end?

polluxlm wrote:

Western leaders study 'gamechanging' report on global drugs trade

European governments and the Obama administration are this weekend studying a "gamechanging" report on global drugs policy that is being seen in some quarters as the beginning of the end for blanket prohibition.

Publication of the Organisation of American States (OAS) review, commissioned at last year's Cartagena Summit of the Americas attended by Barack Obama, reflects growing dissatisfaction among Latin American countries with the current global policy on illicit drugs. It spells out the effects of the policy on many countries and examines what the global drugs trade will look like if the status quo continues. It notes how rapidly countries' unilateral drugs policies are evolving, while at the same time there is a growing consensus over the human costs of the trade. "Growing media attention regarding this phenomenon in many countries, including on social media, reflects a world in which there is far greater awareness of the violence and suffering associated with the drug problem," José Miguel Insulza, the secretary general of the OAS, says in a foreword to the review. "We also enjoy a much better grasp of the human and social costs not only of drug use but also of the production and transit of controlled substances."

Insulza describes the report, which examines a number of ways to reform the current pro-prohibition position, as the start of "a long-awaited discussion", one that experts say puts Europe and North America on notice that the current situation will change, with or without them. Latin American leaders have complained bitterly that western countries, whose citizens consume the drugs, fail to appreciate the damage of the trade. In one scenario envisaged in the report, a number of South American countries would break with the prohibition line and decide that they will no longer deploy law enforcement and the army against drug cartels, having concluded that the human costs of the "war on drugs" is too high.

The west's responsibility to reshape global drugs policy will be emphasised in three weeks when Juan Manuel Santos Calderón, the president of Colombia, who initiated the review, arrives in Britain. His visit is part of a programme to push for changes in global policy that will lead up to a special UN general assembly in 2016 when the scenarios of the OAS are expected to have a significant influence.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ma … ugs-report

polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

Re: Drug prohibition at an end?

polluxlm wrote:

About time!

-Jack-
 Rep: 40 

Re: Drug prohibition at an end?

-Jack- wrote:

I doubt it just because I am pessimistic and the powers that be demonize drugs so much but here's to hoping. A legal drug market would be insanely pro. Especially for hallucinogens...

polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

Re: Drug prohibition at an end?

polluxlm wrote:

It's been that way a long time, but lately some pretty big forces are starting to come around on the issue. Prominent world leaders speaking in favor of a change is a big step, and the recent state legalizations in the US shows the public support is growing to a point where the politicians have to start considering it.

A pro market would be insane. Whenever I walk through the beverage sections I look at all the different brands and think to myself, why can't they sell weed like this? Why can't I have a few plants in my home without worrying about going to jail, for years!

Re: Drug prohibition at an end?

Lomax wrote:

Prohibition should be eradicated.
That siad substances should be controlled to a certain degree.

There are most definitely risks associated with weed. Bad weed is very very bad for you (mixed with other crap). Good weed not so much. There needs to be policing and QA

-Jack-
 Rep: 40 

Re: Drug prohibition at an end?

-Jack- wrote:
Riad wrote:

That siad substances should be controlled to a certain degree.

Yeah in a perfect world they wouldn't be but I am cool with a level of regulation/safety/age restriction/QA.

Intercourse
 Rep: 212 

Re: Drug prohibition at an end?

Intercourse wrote:

Big Pharma will be handed the ownership of selling you your favorite high, with the usual massive premium attached. Growing your own will remain illegal to ensure the government gets their tax cut from their blue chip buddies.
It will be the same for the guy on the ground, just no jail which s cool I guess.

RaZor
 Rep: 32 

Re: Drug prohibition at an end?

RaZor wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

It's been that way a long time, but lately some pretty big forces are starting to come around on the issue. Prominent world leaders speaking in favor of a change is a big step, and the recent state legalizations in the US shows the public support is growing to a point where the politicians have to start considering it.

A pro market would be insane. Whenever I walk through the beverage sections I look at all the different brands and think to myself, why can't they sell weed like this? Why can't I have a few plants in my home without worrying about going to jail, for years!

Reefer madness!!

Axlin16
 Rep: 768 

Re: Drug prohibition at an end?

Axlin16 wrote:

I think that there will never be sweeping reform of drug prohibition in the states. The politicians will puss out and just say "let it be a states' issue" and the Republicans (who use the majority of it) will be pushing that as hard as they can.

That's basically like having 50 countries at once trying to make it legal.

Then I guarantee you it bogs down in the bible belt. The South will be the absolute LAST place that legalizes it.


Mark my words... you will never get OLD LADY CHRISTIANS TO EVER VOTE YES ON LEGALIZING "the marajahwanna", let alone everything else.

It will never happen. The only thing that might help is the massive influx of hispanic families and voters that are changing the demo in the South and will make voting more liberal, and/or the government stepping in and saying "okay 2/3 of the country has voted yes, so now ALL of the country has to abide" or something like that.

I guarantee you Texas and Florida will probably be the last states to legalize, despite the fact both of those states have the most importing of illegal drugs.

polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

Re: Drug prohibition at an end?

polluxlm wrote:
Intercourse wrote:

Big Pharma will be handed the ownership of selling you your favorite high, with the usual massive premium attached. Growing your own will remain illegal to ensure the government gets their tax cut from their blue chip buddies.
It will be the same for the guy on the ground, just no jail which s cool I guess.

I'm not too sure about that. Of course they don't want you to grow it yourself, but like with alcohol and cigarettes the vast majority of people tend not to bother when they can get a finished product at the store. I'm thinking they'll allow it since it doesn't matter much anyways. Either way they can't put people in jail for it if the product becomes legal. I'm guessing a fine, maybe probation. And that'll work for most connoisseurs I think.

Definitely not buying any Monsanto weed though. God knows what kind of crap they'll put into it.

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