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Re: Gibson Guitar Is a Remarkably Unpopular Company
I used to have an ltd mh1000 and it was a great guitar...but had fret issues. .odd that a 2010 guitar had frets wearing out within 4 years ...was still a $1000 guitar...still imo has a bit of a cheasy metal syltyle to them...never been a fan of the prs stuff the ones I have played haven't been all that great...granted my experience with them is limited...but again high end se guitars are still over $1k
My main guitar currently is an LTD ec-401fm, which looks slightly more aggressive than a Gibson styled Les Paul (http://im4.woodbrass.com/images/woodbra … TBLK-1.JPG). I've had it for 5 years now and it feels, sounds and looks brand new. I guess like with every brand (just look at the list of complaints about Gibson you listed yourself) you can have a bad one once in a while. I was actually looking to buy a Gibson Les Paul Standard when I bought the LTD but after playing both in the store the LTD played and sounded nicer to me. I payed about 600 EUR for it (so around 800 USD in those days), including tax. The Gibson would've set me back twice as much and actually comes with the exact same hardware (Grover) as the LTD. The EMG's in my LTD typically retail for 20$ more than the Seymour Duncans in the Gibson.
Additionally, both PRS and ESP have guitars that match or exceed gibson and usa fender prices...so I'm not sure how valid your argument is
That's kinda my point though, I think those are overpriced as well. The only reason they are so expensive is because the production process is more expensive and they are produced in more expensive places (US and Japan respectively), not because there' anything inherently better about them.
I'm of the opinion that if u want a gibson, get a gibson , don't get a prs cuz u think it's close to a gibson...
I fully agree with that, but I'm not really about buying a brand, I just want to buy a great guitar with the features that I'm looking for. For me that's a not too aggressive looking set neck or neck through guitar without tremelo and two aggressive-as-fuck sounding humbuckers. I should clarify, I love Gibsons, I have a 1979 Gibson The Paul (sort of a cross between a Les Paul and an SG) that for the longest time was my absolute favorite guitar. But honestly, with the price hikes in recent years, the difference between US made guitars and others is simply not worth it.
I'm not a Fender guy to begin with, they don't really make guitars that meet my preferences. The radius of the fretboard is too big, the width of the fretboard too narrow and the neck itself too think. Plus, that neck joint man... way too much wood down there for comfortable soloing in the high registers.
Re: Gibson Guitar Is a Remarkably Unpopular Company
Well, it doesn't matter so much where it is built as long as good components are used. What are some quality brands in your opinion? We used to have a Danish brand here, Bang Olufsen, but I see their selection isn't all that great. Pricy as hell too.
Well, if you're going for the absolute best in Picture quality you need to try and buy one of last year's Samsung 8000 series plasmas. But if you're looking for a decent quality set from a mainstream brand that is well built and will last at least 7 to 8 years (don't hope for much more, that's the spec these things are built to these days), I would say Sony is probably your best bet, followed by Panasonic, Sharp and Samsung (in roughly that order). I would stay away from LG TV's except maybe for their highest end sets. The B&O stuff looks great and is superbly designed, but that's really more of a lifestyle brand (plus rumor has it they are on the verge of bankruptcy). But if you're willing to spend a bit more and like superbly designed TV's ala Bang & Olufsen you should take a look at Loewe (http://www.loewe.tv).
Re: Gibson Guitar Is a Remarkably Unpopular Company
I was actually looking to buy a Gibson Les Paul Standard when I bought the LTD but after playing both in the store the LTD played and sounded nicer to me. I payed about 600 EUR for it (so around 800 USD in those days), including tax. The Gibson would've set me back twice as much and actually comes with the exact same hardware (Grover) as the LTD. The EMG's in my LTD typically retail for 20$ more than the Seymour Duncans in the Gibson.
If it pays and sounds how u want then that's all u can ask for really...but i cant let a cost savings detour me...I need to be happy with the purchase or i will end up getting rid of it and trying new stuff til im happy...otherwise i waste money by selling trading buying...for instance. ..i was set on a marshall amp..ended up with a mesa. ..cuz that was the sound in my headup til that point i had gone thru 3 Marshalls 3 fenders a black star and a vox...I avoided mesa cuz of price...I coulda avoided owning 8 other amps and just trying and getting a mesa in the first place
That's kinda my point though, I think those are overpriced as well. The only reason they are so expensive is because the production process is more expensive and they are produced in more expensive places (US and Japan respectively), not because there' anything inherently better about them.
I fully agree with that, but I'm not really about buying a brand, I just want to buy a great guitar with the features that I'm looking for. For me that's a not too aggressive looking set neck or neck through guitar without tremelo and two aggressive-as-fuck sounding humbuckers. I should clarify, I love Gibsons, I have a 1979 Gibson The Paul (sort of a cross between a Les Paul and an SG) that for the longest time was my absolute favorite guitar. But honestly, with the price hikes in recent years, the difference between US made guitars and others is simply not worth it.
This is a tough one...gibson and fender use premium wood...one peice necks perhaps 2 peices of wood for the body...instead of 3 peice necks and 7 or 8 peices for the body...gibson uses mahogany and fender uses alder where another company may use basswood or Agatha...plus there is still an element of hand workmanship on usa guitars where each peice has it's own unique character. ..all lp std are similar but each has a quirk or 2 unique to the guitar...for instance I had a les paul studio with slightly scalloped fretboard...shoulda kept that one cuz I've never played another like it...I was hound and determined to get the standard tho
I'm not a Fender guy to begin with, they don't really make guitars that meet my preferences. The radius of the fretboard is too big, the width of the fretboard too narrow and the neck itself too think. Plus, that neck joint man... way too much wood down there for comfortable soloing in the high registers.
Depends in the model...that's he thing aboit strats....there are a ton of different neck profiles and a few neck pockets...the neck on my american standard strat neck is really nice...and it has an ebony fretboard 
but I get that u don't like the heel...I'm a rhythm player so I don't go down there too much...15th fret is my limit...lol
I almost had a usa G&L legacy built...but by the time I had it with the spec I wanted it was more expensive than a strat...and all I wanted was usa std specs...then it dawns on me...just buy a damn fender, that's what I want
Re: Gibson Guitar Is a Remarkably Unpopular Company
All great points Neemo, and I'm happy that you love your guitars. Also, 'm not trying to make you regret spending the money 
, but I do think it's important to state for people in the market for a guitar that quality wise there's nothing wrong with the better specced Asian guitars. I don't want to perpetuate the myth that if you don't buy an American made guitar you by definition end up with an inferior product.
Regarding handmade products, you're kind of confirming my point with the quirks you'll find in those guitars. Ending up with a guitar with a slightly scalloped fretboard might be a nice surprise for some, but it could ruin the feel for others. Machine built guitars are predictably reliable and cheaper.
I'm in the market for a T-shape guitar right now, and I've looked at some Fenders, but even their Modern Player guitars still have a fairly chunky neck. The radius is a bit better and the heel is ever so slightly leaner, but the width of the fretboard is still too narrow for my liking and the pickup setup is 'meh'... Then there's the Telecaster HH guitars, which unfortunately come with the classic neck profile. The other brands don't fair much better either. ESP has tele's with a humbucker in the neck position (why??) but single coil in the bridge, or with two EGM's (which I already have in my LP, so I'd rather have something a bit different sounding). The chapman ML-3 comes superbly equipped and the bolt-on neck joint is beautiful, but they've arch-topped the body which looks atrocious on a tele-style guitar.
I don't know, the only reason I'm after a Tele shape is because I love the look of it, my wish list kinda reads like an SG type guitar in a Telecaster type body anyway...
I don't care too much about the wood since it only affects the look, weight and acoustic tone of the guitar (and perhaps the sustain a little bit in some cases). Pickup's only react to the magnetic field, so the amplified tone can't be affected by the choice of wood. And typically, wood that is glued together is stronger at the glue joint and less susceptible to warping, it is actually better to make a guitar out of multiple pieces of wood glue together than to make one out of one or two big chunks (and a lot cheaper too ).
Re: Gibson Guitar Is a Remarkably Unpopular Company
Try the g&l asat series...u prolly know, but it was Leo fenders company after he sold fender to cbs
The asat is the tele...legacy series is the made in Korea version or there is usa made...the legacy's are just what u get. ...the usa ones have a ton of options and I think they even have an ibanez wizard style of neck...if u go usa it's similar prices to usa fender buy if u find used they are less resale...just hard to find ur specs cuz basically everything is custom shop...albeit at fender production guitar prices
Re: Gibson Guitar Is a Remarkably Unpopular Company
polluxlm wrote:Well, it doesn't matter so much where it is built as long as good components are used. What are some quality brands in your opinion? We used to have a Danish brand here, Bang Olufsen, but I see their selection isn't all that great. Pricy as hell too.
Well, if you're going for the absolute best in Picture quality you need to try and buy one of last year's Samsung 8000 series plasmas. But if you're looking for a decent quality set from a mainstream brand that is well built and will last at least 7 to 8 years (don't hope for much more, that's the spec these things are built to these days), I would say Sony is probably your best bet, followed by Panasonic, Sharp and Samsung (in roughly that order). I would stay away from LG TV's except maybe for their highest end sets. The B&O stuff looks great and is superbly designed, but that's really more of a lifestyle brand (plus rumor has it they are on the verge of bankruptcy). But if you're willing to spend a bit more and like superbly designed TV's ala Bang & Olufsen you should take a look at Loewe (http://www.loewe.tv).
Made in Germany? Makes me feel all patriotic, perfect!
Bought a Das Keyboard earlier this year.
http://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploa … yboard.jpg
Metal frame, old school keys. Brilliant volume control. Twice the prize of a Razer, but here I don't expect the keys to get murky in less than two years.
Re: Gibson Guitar Is a Remarkably Unpopular Company
Try the g&l asat series...u prolly know, but it was Leo fenders company after he sold fender to cbs
The asat is the tele...legacy series is the made in Korea version or there is usa made...the legacy's are just what u get. ...the usa ones have a ton of options and I think they even have an ibanez wizard style of neck...if u go usa it's similar prices to usa fender buy if u find used they are less resale...just hard to find ur specs cuz basically everything is custom shop...albeit at fender production guitar prices
Well, turns out I'm a lucky guy... I had a birthday two days ago and my girlfriend bought me one of these babies: http://www.chapmanguitars.co.uk/guitars/ml-3-modern/
It's arriving tomorrow, can't wait to plug it into my Egnater.
