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Re: Notorious Criminals
I just finished the video game dlc for Assassin's Creed Syndicate about Jack the Ripper...there is a historic element to those games where u can read about the people and events from whatever time frame they ate targeting....in the case of ACS it was 1988 Victorian London...I was never really interested in the ripper case previously but after completing it I was compelled to buy a book on the subject called "The Complete Jack the Ripper", by Philip Sugden...it seems to be one of the more recommended books about the subject. It's supposed to arrive Monday.
I did some research about the ripper online and one mentioned as a possible suspect was late 1900's, Chicago mass murderer, HH Holmes...so I watched a documentary about him on Netflix...he was a fucked up dude too.
I also watched a documentary and a film about a Mob Hitman called "The Iceman"...another scary guy
In the thread we have on "Making a Murderer", which I also just finished watching, James had mentioned documentaries...so I thought maybe a thread on the subject might be something to explore
Does anyone have suggestions on books to read and/or docs to watch about some notorious criminals in history?
Or if anyone wants to discuss the ones I have mentioned above
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I don't have many particular books or docs, mostly been looking at random videos and articles. But I can give some names.
You have the classics, the serial killers: Bundy, Gacy, Zodiac, Manson (all of these have many youtube docs). If you can find reading material I also suggest Bella Kiss, very interesting character.
Robbers: DB Cooper, The North Hollywood Shootout (on youtube)
Gangsters: Totto Riinna (there's a tv series about him, italian made), John Gotti, Carlo Gambino, Lucky Luciano, Whitey Bulger (the one who hid in Florida for like 30 years).
Drug lords: Escobar (on netflix, feature), Frank Lucas (American Gangster the film)
Government scandals: Iran Contra, CIA drug smuggling (should be plenty of docs on tube)
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A couple of years ago I went through a phase of watching a load of these sorta documentaries inc other stuff like Waco or Jonestown, or Nazi stuff - Night & Fog is amazing, footage of a death camp filmed by Soviets who'd liberated it. that sorta stuff. Was big into my serial killers dahmer, bundy et al.
I was really fucked up for a while. My friends kept saying I'd changed that was saying disgusting things & making jokes I'd never had done before. I love gallows humour tho.
Unfortunately the hard drive I had all that stuff on died & I hadn't backed it up.
I used to get a lot off this place http://abraxas365dokumentarci.blogspot.co.uk/ & wouldn't you know it, the most recent post is Making a Murderer!
Netflix should have a film on the west Memphis 3 but there's an earlier trilogy of films, Paradise Lost, about them that are much better - include a lot of stuff about coerced confessions actually in that one. Like Making a Murderer they were filmed at the time of the events.
The thin blue line should also be on Netflix. It's amazing. You've maybe seen that stuff tho.
In terms of stuff in the vein of Making a Murderer you really should check the staircase & the jinx, & the thin blue line. The jinx was out just last year. Staircase is one of those that really kicked off the whole genre.
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Terror on Wall Street
The lunch rush was just beginning as a non-descript man driving a cart pressed an old horse forward on a mid-September day in 1920. He stopped the animal and its heavy load in front of the U.S. Assay Office, across from the J. P. Morgan building in the heart of Wall Street. The driver got down and quickly disappeared into the crowd.
Within minutes, the cart exploded into a hail of metal fragments—immediately killing more than 30 people and injuring some 300. The carnage was horrific, and the death toll kept rising as the day wore on and more victims succumbed.
Who was responsible? In the beginning it wasn’t obvious that the explosion was an intentional act of terrorism. Crews cleaned the damage up overnight, including physical evidence that today would be crucial to identifying the perpetrator. By the next morning Wall Street was back in business—broken windows draped in canvass, workers in bandages, but functioning none-the-less.
Conspiracy theories abounded, but the New York Police and Fire Departments, the Bureau of Investigation (our predecessor), and the U.S. Secret Service were on the job. Each avidly pursued leads. The Bureau interviewed hundreds of people who had been around the area before, during, and after the attack, but developed little information of value. The few recollections of the driver and wagon were vague and virtually useless. The NYPD was able to reconstruct the bomb and its fuse mechanism, but there was much debate about the nature of the explosive, and all the potential components were commonly available.
The most promising lead had actually come prior to the explosion. A letter carrier had found four crudely spelled and printed flyers in the area, from a group calling itself the “American Anarchist Fighters” that demanded the release of political prisoners. The letters, discovered later, seemed similar to ones used the previous year in two bombing campaigns fomented by Italian Anarchists. The Bureau worked diligently, investigating up and down the East Coast, to trace the printing of these flyers, without success.
Based on bomb attacks over the previous decade, the Bureau initially suspected followers of the Italian Anarchist Luigi Galleani. But the case couldn’t be proved, and the anarchist had fled the country. Over the next three years, hot leads turned cold and promising trails turned into dead ends. In the end, the bombers were not identified. The best evidence and analysis since that fateful day of September 16, 1920, suggests that the Bureau’s initial thought was correct—that a small group of Italian Anarchists were to blame. But the mystery remains.
For the young Bureau, the bombing became one of our earliest terrorism cases—and not the last, unfortunately, to involve the city of New York. As the decades passed, the threat from terrorism would grow and change, with different actors and causes coming and going from the scene. As we approach our 100th anniversary next July, we’ll be telling more and more of those stories on this website. Stay tuned.
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I was really fucked up for a while. My friends kept saying I'd changed that was saying disgusting things & making jokes I'd never had done before. I love gallows humour tho.
That happened to me a bit when I read the book American Psycho by Brett Easton Ellis...it's not about a real serial killer but same idea and the writing is extremely graphic
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Does anyone have suggestions on books to read and/or docs to watch about some notorious criminals in history?
The Man with the Candy. It's a book about Dean Corll. Complete psycho. I never understood why he isn't up there high on the list of worst serial killers. Strange dynamic with him and those two teens who would lure other teens/young boys to his house so Corll could throw em on his torture rack and as he would say "have his fun". Several things about this case defy explanation and its pathetic that Houston PD closed this case so quickly.
This case was back in the news a couple years ago. That was when pressure should've been put on HPD to dig for more info. Didn't happen. People wanting to do a film or documentary on Corll went to one of his teen accomplices mother's house. She had all that kid's crap boxed up still after all these years. They found a pic of a boy. He's not being murdered but is definitely in distress. No one knows who the boy is.
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