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- A Private Eye
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Bit dissappointed by last night. Ep 8 has usually been very strong the last couple of seasons but was all a bit none eventful really. The first half of this season was really good but the second has overall felt more like filler, which from Ataris post i'm guessing is because that is exactly what it is.
Gotta assume they're praying for Georges next book to drop before the next season. They need some more source material.
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Since they have done so much stalling and certain characters only seem to show up on screen, because they're too costly to pay and not use (like Peter Dinklage)... I'm wondering if even if certain major characters do die in the next book, they wouldn't just hold to them anyway until the final season?
I'm not saying this is going to happen, but if lets say Jamie or Cerseri dies early on in the book. Maybe they'd think "we have to hold on these guys until the final season, because they're our stars".
Other than Stannis (who's a different character in the books), they haven't really killed off a major character since Joffery. It's just been secondary characters, albeit some who had more screen time than others.
- A Private Eye
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Tywin was after Joffrey I think, although same season?
Season 4 was a bit of a blood bath though. Joffrey, Oberyn, Ygritte and Tywin were all pretty big characters (probably forgotten others).
Stannis and Jon (technically) last season.
All the big deaths previously have had purpose. Shocking as they may have been they drove the plot on. Now, having followed some of these characters so long if they are to die it needs purpose. It's why I had no real concern for Arya last night, what would be the point in the last two seasons just to kill her now. It'd have been a waste of screen time.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Tommen or the High Sparrow dead by the end of the season. No doubt along with a few others.
Re: HBO's A Game of Thrones
Tywin was after Joffrey I think, although same season?
Season 4 was a bit of a blood bath though. Joffrey, Oberyn, Ygritte and Tywin were all pretty big characters (probably forgotten others).
Stannis and Jon (technically) last season.
All the big deaths previously have had purpose. Shocking as they may have been they drove the plot on. Now, having followed some of these characters so long if they are to die it needs purpose. It's why I had no real concern for Arya last night, what would be the point in the last two seasons just to kill her now. It'd have been a waste of screen time.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Tommen or the High Sparrow dead by the end of the season. No doubt along with a few others.
Agree. I see Cersi killing Tommen and the High Sparrow with wild fire.
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Well I forgot about Tywinn, but all of those except Stannis were book deaths. Published/written years before HBO thought about making this into a show.
In the books their's alot more set-up to make sure Jon isn't done. Jon/Bran/Arya/Tyrion/Danny are the principle characters of the story (you can argue though that it extends to Jamie/Cerseri/Sansa). If one of those died this season, it'd be a bigger deal.
Ygritte was a secondary character though, but her death plays a role in how Jon thinks about things afterwards (never explored in the show). Oberyn's purpose is to set up Dorne which of course went in a completely different direction in the show.
Tommen/High Sparrow and a few others are almost definitely dead in the season finale, but again they're secondary characters. Their's actually still a version of the ADWD epilogue to play out in the show, involving characters that haven't been killed off yet.
It's complicated and you'd have to read the books to get it, but the show is still technically at the end of the 5th book (exactly where it was at the end of last season) in several of the character arcs. They've technically went around in a circle Jon (in Stannis role), Slaver's Bay, Jamie/Brieene, King's Landing.. only with Sansa for example being completely different. Bran's story is the only thing that seems to have went past the published story (that said, the Benjen thing is probably very different).
- A Private Eye
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I think Tommens a given at some stage considering the witches prophecy. It's just a case of when and how.
I read an article a few weeks ago that said if Tommen were to die the next in line to the throne via a very conpliacted route is actually Cersei. Although that was on the basis Jaime was in the Kingsguard, which he's not now. Still, would be a great irony in Cersei accidently killing Tommen and becoming Queen as a result.
Re: HBO's A Game of Thrones
I think Tommens a given at some stage considering the witches prophecy. It's just a case of when and how.
I read an article a few weeks ago that said if Tommen were to die the next in line to the throne via a very conpliacted route is actually Cersei. Although that was on the basis Jaime was in the Kingsguard, which he's not now. Still, would be a great irony in Cersei accidently killing Tommen and becoming Queen as a result.
If Jamie were to kill Cersi would that put him in line as king? I have a feeling Margery will squirm her way into power.
- Smoking Guns
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Who all will show up in Winterfell??
Sansa's Cousin's army that Littlefinger offered in the beginning of the season?
The Tully army sent by Jamie?
Brienne and Pod
Ayra
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Why would Jamie be be stupid enough to send the Tully army to join up with the Starks? The entire series has been the Starks vs. the Lannisters.
Arya will be randomly tele-port some where half around the world by the end of the season, but it's not going to be Winterfell. Even the writers aren't that bad (almost though). The same goes for Brienne, at least next episode (I think).
The fact that no one cares about the Siege of Mereen, shows how badly the show has handled it. In the show I guess Danny will just release her Dragons and the Iron Born will show up before it really gets going.
