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Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

AtariLegend wrote:

Should be watching BBC news now.

Their's MPs there waiting for Theresa's speech that backed every candidate, until they dropped out... including Boris (excluding Crabb).

It's really tedious. How did these people keep getting voted back into office?

Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

AtariLegend wrote:

I have disagreements with Corbyn over his thoughts on the Northern Ireland troubles.

As for his voting record however, he's the one of the very few in parliament that I'd trust. Eagle is better than a Tory socially, but still not someone I'd ever trust as a PM... though she's never going to get the chance after this fiasco.

Most people don't check the voting records of their local MPs, but MPs are ridiculous career opportunists who couldn't care less about the actual people of the country.

How can someone like this for example on TV talking about what's best for the people keep getting elected as a MP: https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24926 … rset/votes

Oh and here's our new PM for reference:
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10426 … head/votes

Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

johndivney wrote:

Eagle is a bitch. The corporate choice. Corbyn's the guy. Not a strong man, and a socialist, so I don't think he'd have many fans on here!
But yea the Blairites/neo liberals of the Labour Party have a vendetta against him that's poisoned the well & done as near as much damage as Cameron/Gideon & May. They've sins to answer for that will go unpunished.
Corbyn might have some out there notions but he's smart enough to know there's some battles he shouldn't fight. I was very disappointed with him on the referendum but by and large I agree with him on a lot of things. He's far more dignified than the shower that's gunning for him that's for fuckin sure.

Eagle was pro-Iraq war, pro-tuition fees & abstained on the welfare bill. She is a cunt. A cunt that's been bought and paid for, she oughta to be a Tory ffs. https://www.opendemocracy.net/ian-sincl … gela-eagle

Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

johndivney wrote:
AtariLegend wrote:

How can someone like this for example on TV talking about what's best for the people keep getting elected as a MP: https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24926 … rset/votes

Oh and here's our new PM for reference:
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10426 … head/votes

Rees-Mogg is a right wing nut. So is May. Sickening tho how close Eagle is to her voting record. What a fucking sorry state. Just give us full devolution & let us fuck it up ourselves! We've plenty of morons over here too, just not as much money to lobby the politicians..

http://youtu.be/qLo7z50Tt2g

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

James wrote:

Wait a minute...you guys were expecting a woman PM but out of the blue she backs out and a different woman is taking her place?

INteresting and I need to pay closer attention to this situation. Fuck....the whole world needs to. As I have said before, an unstable UK could have major ramifications on the world stage.

Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

johndivney wrote:

No it was always likely to be the woman that we have now.
The other woman was just a challenger, but in reality she was just a token candidate, actually a bit of politicking to thwart other candidates. The whole thing was a sham & a farce to ensure the quick secession of who we have to "stabilise" things. It's all just a game to these people.

It should be noted the new PM hasn't been elected by a general election, but put in place by her party.

Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

AtariLegend wrote:

The Petition committee finally responded to the petition almost 4 million UK nationals signed. There was a 100K + odd from outside the UK and that's what will be used to try and discredit this and the views of the others that signed.

This is what they said:

The Petitions Committee has decided to schedule a House of Commons debate on this petition. The debate will take place on 5 September at 4.30pm in Westminster Hall, the second debating chamber of the House of Commons. The debate will be opened by Ian Blackford MP.

The Committee has decided that the huge number of people signing this petition means that it should be debated by MPs. The Petitions Committee would like to make clear that, in scheduling this debate, they are not supporting the call for a second referendum. The debate will allow MPs to put forward a range of views on behalf of their constituents. At the end of the debate, a Government Minister will respond to the points raised.

A debate in Westminster Hall does not have the power to change the law, and won’t end with the House of Commons deciding whether or not to have a second referendum. Moreover, the petition – which was opened on 25 May, well before the referendum – calls for the referendum rules to be changed. It is now too late for the rules to be changed retrospectively. It will be up to the Government to decide whether it wants to start the process of agreeing a new law for a second referendum.

The Petitions Committee is a cross-party group of MPs. It is independent from Government. You can find out more about the Committee on its website: http://www.parliament.uk/petitions-committee/role

Naturally nothing will come of us and there probably won't be many MPs there, but it'll attract alot of attention.

Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

AtariLegend wrote:

No idea why they keep calling her a modernizer on the BBC, her voting record is further to the right of Cameron. Oh and... if anyone's wondering about her husband.

theresa-may-husband-2.jpg

Theresa May’s husband is a senior executive at a $1.4tn investment fund that profits from tax avoiding companies
Exclusive: May mentioned Amazon and Starbucks in speech about tax avoidance

The relatively unknown investment fund where Theresa May’s husband Philip works as a senior executive is one of the world’s largest and most powerful financial institutions, controlling $1.4 trillion in assets.

Its portfolio also includes $20 billion of shares in Amazon and Starbucks, both of which were cited by the Prime Minister-designate in her pledge to crack down on tax avoidance yesterday.

Latest filings to US authorities show that Los Angeles based Capital Group owns huge stakes in a variety of companies, including investment bank JP Morgan Chase, defence giant Lockheed Martin, tobacco company Philip Morris International, the pharmaceutical sector’s Merck & Co, and also Ryanair.

The company, which has a low profile outside the financial sector, has confirmed that Mr May, a pension fund expert, works out of its Mayfair office in London, with a spokeswoman telling The Independent: “Philip is a client relationship manager who stays in contact with organisations and institutions in the UK to ensure they are happy with the service being delivered by Capital Group and that we understand their goals. Philip is not involved with our investment research or portfolio management activities.”

However, the company he works for has benefited from its investments in the likes of Amazon and Starbucks, both of which have been criticised for tax avoidance structures and which were mentioned by Ms May as she outlined her manifesto for Downing Street yesterday.

She said: “We need to talk about tax. It doesn’t matter to me whether you’re Amazon, Google or Starbucks: you have a duty to put something back, you have a debt to your fellow citizens, you have a responsibility to pay your taxes. So as Prime Minister, I will crack down on individual and corporate tax avoidance and evasion.”

It is not clear whether she was aware that her husband’s company was such a significant investor in the Amazon and Starbucks.

According to latest filings on 31 March this year, Capital Group, through its various divisions and funds, including Capital World Investors and Capital Research Global Investors, owned at least 32 million shares in Amazon, worth about $20bn.

Its 6 per cent stake made it one of Amazon’s biggest shareholders.

It also owned about $2bn of Starbuck shares at the end of March when the total assets under its management was $1.4 trillion

Other shareholdings included at least $7bn in JP Morgan Chase, $9bn in Philip Morris International, $5bn in McDonald’s, $6.6bn in Lockheed Martin, and $1.5bn in Ryanair.

A source close to Ms May said: 'She said in her speech that these companies have a duty to put something back.  That is her strong view and it remains her strong view.'

It is not clear which clients Mr May deals with on behalf of Capital Group, but his name has been mentioned in the minutes for Norfolk County Council’s pension committee reports, where he has appeared on behalf of his company as a pension manager.

A spokesman for Starbucks said: “We pay all our taxes in the UK and in 2014 we moved our European Headquarters to London. Last year we paid £18m in corporation tax.”

Amazon, which has been previously criticised for diverting profits out of the UK, last year began booking sales in Britain. It has previously denied deliberate tax avoidance.

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po … 33231.html

Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

johndivney wrote:

Holy fuck. They're practically declaring war on the working class. + Boris as foreign secretary is like giving an arsonist a box of matches & a can of petrol, unless it's just a way to shuffle him to the sidelines..

This place is fucked. By a bunch of fuckers.
Fuck.

Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

johndivney wrote:

Fuckin Thatcher's children running the show. Fuck me.

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