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polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

Re: US Gives Away The Internet

polluxlm wrote:

The federal government will surrender U.S. control of the internet to international authorities.

The Washington Examiner reports that the Department of Commerce will "finalize" the transition on Oct. 1.

The upshot: the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority which translates numerical addresses into a readable language shift from U.S. control.

It will be run by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, which the Examiner describes as a "multi-stake holder body that includes countries like China and Russia."
Special:

The Wall Street Journal reports that the Obama administration looks at the move as "necessary to maintain international support for the internet and prevent a fracturing of its governance."

But Sen. Ted Cruz and advocacy groups including the Americans for Tax Reform and Heritage Action oppose the transfer, saying the agency could be used by "totalitarian governments" to trigger a global shutdown of the Web, the Examiner says.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-Sur … id/743942/

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Gives Away The Internet

polluxlm wrote:

The federal government will surrender U.S. control of the internet to international authorities.

The Washington Examiner reports that the Department of Commerce will "finalize" the transition on Oct. 1.

The upshot: the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority which translates numerical addresses into a readable language shift from U.S. control.

It will be run by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, which the Examiner describes as a "multi-stake holder body that includes countries like China and Russia."
Special:

The Wall Street Journal reports that the Obama administration looks at the move as "necessary to maintain international support for the internet and prevent a fracturing of its governance."

But Sen. Ted Cruz and advocacy groups including the Americans for Tax Reform and Heritage Action oppose the transfer, saying the agency could be used by "totalitarian governments" to trigger a global shutdown of the Web, the Examiner says.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-Sur … id/743942/


When I was in China, the local government had assigned 1 observer per every 250 people. They read emails and other traffic to prevent uproars and protests. Russia is now requiring every ISP to maintain logs of every site users visit.  Are these the countries we want having control over the web?

Do we want Europe enforcing its radical hate speech codes?  Their privacy laws are far superior to the U.S., but they're also the first to prosecute people for posting unpopular ideas.

I think Obama made a mistake giving over U.S. control. But we'll see if this has any long term effects.

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: US Gives Away The Internet

PaSnow wrote:

I don't see how this is even news.  ICANN has been overseeing domain names pretty much since inception?!   They're why if you buy a domain name from Godaddy someone else can't go the next day & buy the same domain from Hostgator.  And yeah, they "include countries like China and Russia" lol.  So some russian can't buy gnrevolution.com.  I think they also oversee .cn & .ru


I guess it's just another thing tho that's Obama's fault.  Thanks Obama neutral

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Gives Away The Internet

Right, cause removing the monopoly of domain name control won't open it up to puppet courts or international claims.  "you may have registered amazon.com in 1998, but this chinese firm has called themselves Amazon since 1996, so we're going to configure the DNS in this country to point to the Chinese company. "

Was there a problem in which the way the US, the country who developed the computer and world wide web, was handling domain registration?  If not, why turn it over to other countries who don't respect copyrights and free speech?

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: US Gives Away The Internet

PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Was there a problem in which the way the US, the country who developed the computer and world wide web, was handling domain registration?  If not, why turn it over to other countries who don't respect copyrights and free speech?

ICANN is already in charge of domain name registration.  In the US too. There is no news here.

Axl S
 Rep: 112 

Re: US Gives Away The Internet

Axl S wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Right, cause removing the monopoly of domain name control won't open it up to puppet courts or international claims.  "you may have registered amazon.com in 1998, but this chinese firm has called themselves Amazon since 1996, so we're going to configure the DNS in this country to point to the Chinese company. "

Was there a problem in which the way the US, the country who developed the computer and world wide web, was handling domain registration?  If not, why turn it over to other countries who don't respect copyrights and free speech?

An aside: That's not entirely true... the first part especially not.

polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

Re: US Gives Away The Internet

polluxlm wrote:

The news here is that DOC is finalizing its separation with ICANN that began in March. That removes the organization from US Government control. The reason it was under government control was to circumvent anti trust laws. That will now no doubt start to be contested, opening for entities like China, Russia and the EU to gain control. And of course big business will do their very best to separate the first amendment from the Internet in the US.

Better explained here:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/an-internet … 1472421165

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Gives Away The Internet

Axl S wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Right, cause removing the monopoly of domain name control won't open it up to puppet courts or international claims.  "you may have registered amazon.com in 1998, but this chinese firm has called themselves Amazon since 1996, so we're going to configure the DNS in this country to point to the Chinese company. "

Was there a problem in which the way the US, the country who developed the computer and world wide web, was handling domain registration?  If not, why turn it over to other countries who don't respect copyrights and free speech?

An aside: That's not entirely true... the first part especially not.


Sure, if you want to consider a non-electronic device that didn't read machine code a "computer", kudos to Babbage.  Under the common definition, it certainly is, and no one can argue that the US wasn't the creator and driving force between what eventually became the internet.  I'm not saying that because I believe America is superior because of it.  Just simply that the US created it, so why would we want to turn it over to another authority that doesn't respect free speech or copyrights. 

Many countries already block websites.  There's nothing stopping them from changing the destination IP on domain names being accessed from within their boarders.

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