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Smoking Guns wrote:polluxlm wrote:I'm a big supporter of Trump, but I'll be the first to admit it if he doesn't deliver. Right now he just has potential. Once in office I have my own private check list to know if he's the real deal, and it's not an easy test to pass. Andrew Jackson was the last one to do so imo.
Yes. I will call his ass out and not make excuses like the OBAMA supporters have for OBAMA by blaming Republicans and Bush for EVERY FUCKING THING. ha
You blame everything on Bill Clinton instead of Bush, so please... From how long I've known you, you have never said or acted like Obama was your president.
Republicans turned into a bunch of whiney little bitches when Obama was elected, and started obstructing on a historic level, like threatening to default on the debt (first time in history) to refusing to vote on a supreme court justice (first time in history) and you guys REFUSED to give them any blame for their conduct. It's the only reason Trump had a chance because of their behavior. The GOP got the clown they deserve.
Have you ever taken a logic course?
Democrats control the Senate and Republicans control the house. Neither agrees on legislation and refuses to budge.
Your conclusion: "Fucking GOP obstructionist pigs. How dare they not rubber stamp what my party wants."
Re: US Politics Thread
Have you heard of Henry Clay? He was the Great Compromiser. A good compromise is when both parties are dissatisfied..
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Do you guys think that if Hillary wins she'll finally be the democratic president to pull the trigger on putting everyone in fema camps?
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misterID wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:Yes. I will call his ass out and not make excuses like the OBAMA supporters have for OBAMA by blaming Republicans and Bush for EVERY FUCKING THING. ha
You blame everything on Bill Clinton instead of Bush, so please... From how long I've known you, you have never said or acted like Obama was your president.
Republicans turned into a bunch of whiney little bitches when Obama was elected, and started obstructing on a historic level, like threatening to default on the debt (first time in history) to refusing to vote on a supreme court justice (first time in history) and you guys REFUSED to give them any blame for their conduct. It's the only reason Trump had a chance because of their behavior. The GOP got the clown they deserve.
Have you ever taken a logic course?
Democrats control the Senate and Republicans control the house. Neither agrees on legislation and refuses to budge.
Your conclusion: "Fucking GOP obstructionist pigs. How dare they not rubber stamp what my party wants."
Republicans had both houses save a few months. You know they were obstructionists. Do you need an honesty course? Where is your integrity? Here's the list of historical obstructionism.
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM JOBS AND THE ECONOMY
Republicans walked away from a bipartisan Senate compromise, placing the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance at risk. [12/20/11]
91 Republicans walked away from the measure to extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance, and GOP leadership relied on 147 Democrats to pass it. [2/17/12]
Republicans walked away from the bipartisan Senate highway bill, which passed the Senate with 74 votes. [February-June 2012]
Republicans introduced their budget, which walked away from the Budget Control Act spending levels they agreed to in August 2011 [March 20, 2012]
93 Republicans walked away from reauthorizing the Export-Import Bank, and GOP leadership relied on 183 Democrats to pass the bill. [5/9/12]
52 Republicans walked away from a conference report to provide long-term highway funding, and GOP leadership relied on 187 Democrats to pass it. [6/29/12]
Republicans walked away from American workers by allowing part of the Trade Adjustment Assistance program, which provides critical job training and worker assistance, to expire. [12/31/13]
Republicans walked away from 1.3 million Americans by blocking consideration of legislation to renew emergency unemployment insurance, which expired on December 28. [1/9/14]
Republicans walked away from extending emergency unemployment assistance for people who lost their jobs on or before April 1, 2014. [1/15/14]
Republicans walked away from extending emergency unemployment assistance for people who lost their jobs on or before July 1, 2014. [1/28/14]
Republicans walked away from the Fair Minimum Wage Act, which increases the federal minimum wage for employees to $10.10 an hour. [2/26/14, 2/27/14, 4/2/14, 4/4/14, 4/29/14, 7/30/14]
Republicans walked away from extending emergency unemployment assistance for people who lost their jobs on or before January 1, 2015. [3/5/14, 3/6/14]
Republicans walked away from extending emergency unemployment assistance for people who lost their jobs on or before June 1, 2014. The measure Republicans voted against was identical to a bill that passed the Senate with bipartisan support. [4/8/14, 5/7/14]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM FISCAL RESPONSIBILITYRepublicans walked away from the Bowles-Simpson Bipartisan Fiscal Commission. [12/3/10]
54 Republicans walked away from a Continuing Resolution that would keep the government funded for three weeks, and GOP leadership relied on 85 Democrats to pass the bill. [3/15/11]
59 Republicans walked away from a Continuing Resolution that would keep the government funded for the year, and GOP leadership relied on 81 Democrats to pass the bill. [4/14/11]
Majority Leader Cantor walked away from the Biden deficit reduction talks. [6/23/11]
Speaker Boehner walked away from deficit reduction negotiations with President Obama. [7/22/11]
66 Republicans walked away from a bill that would have ensured our nation paid its bills, and GOP leadership relied on 95 Democrats in order to avoid default and ensure America would meet its obligations. [8/1/11]
101 Republicans walked away from a conference report for the Agriculture, Commerce-Justice-Science, and Transportation-HUD appropriations bills for Fiscal Year 2012, and GOP leadership relied on 165 Democrats to pass the bill. [11/17/11]
Republicans walked away from the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction. [11/21/11]
86 Republicans walked away from the omnibus for the remaining nine appropriations bill for Fiscal Year 2012, and GOP leadership relied on 149 Democrats to pass the bill.[12/16/11]
151 Republicans walked away from preventing the fiscal cliff, and GOP leadership relied on 172 Democrats to pass the bill. [1/1/13]
Republicans walked away from the American people and refused to work with House Democrats to replace the sequester, allowing arbitrary, across-the-board spending cuts to go into effect. [2/1/13]
221 Republicans walked away from meeting our nation’s debt obligations by passing H.R. 807, the Pay China First Bill, placing America closer to the risk of default. [5/ 9/13]
144 Republicans walked away from ending the government shutdown, and GOP leadership relied on 198 Democrats to end it, which cost the economy $24 billion. [10/16/13]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM WOMEN138 Republicans walked away from reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, and GOP leadership relied on all 199 House Democrats to pass the legislation. [2/28/13]
Republicans walked away from working women by voting against the Paycheck Fairness Act, which ensures equal pay for equal work by prohibiting sex discrimination in the payment of wages. [4/8/14, 7/30/14]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM STUDENTS52 Republicans walked away from a conference report to prevent student loan interest rates from doubling, and GOP leadership relied on 187 Democrats to pass it. [6/29/12]
Republicans walked away from America’s students and allowed student loan interest rates to double. [7/1/13]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORMAfter the Senate passed a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill by a strong vote of 68-32, Republicans walked away from the majority of Americans who support comprehensive reform by refusing to bring it to the Floor. They also walked away from the bipartisan House bill, H.R. 15, four times. [3/26/14, 7/31/14, twice on 8/1/14]
House Republican leadership walked away from one of their own members by telling Republican Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart, responsible for crafting the House Republican version of immigration reform, that they wouldn’t be bringing his bill to the Floor for a vote. [7/10/14]
House Republican leaders, facing a conservative revolt, were forced to pull their border crisis funding bill and tack further to the right – passing a partisan bill that went nowhere in the Senate and failed to provide the necessary resources to address the humanitarian crisis at the border. [7/31/14]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARERepublicans walked away from access to affordable health care for the 53rd time by voting to undermine or repeal the Affordable Care Act and offering no alternative legislation to replace it – despite their campaign pledge to repeal and replace. [9/11/14]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM DISASTER RELIEFIn the days immediately after Hurricane Sandy, 69 Republicans walked away from extending the National Flood Insurance program as families and businesses were actively assessing storm damage and making claims, and GOP leadership relied on 193 Democrats to keep the program operating. [1/4/13]
House Republican leadership refused to bring the Sandy supplemental aid bill to the Floor after the Senate passed it with strong bipartisan support. When a bill was brought to the Floor, 179 Republicans walked away from businesses and families affected by Hurricane Sandy, and GOP leadership relied on 192 Democrats to pass the bill. [1/15/13]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM THE FARM COMMUNITYRepublicans walked away from America’s farm communities by failing to pass a farm bill after they added harmful, partisan amendments to the original bill that would make drastic cuts to critical nutrition programs and after they failed to secure the votes needed for final passage from 62 of their own members. [6/18/13]
MEANWHILE, HOUSE REPUBLICANS IGNORE LEGISLATION THAT AMERICANS SUPPORT…Whether wasting time on political messaging bills or walking away from critical negotiations, House Republicans continue to ignore important legislation that enjoys the support of the majority of Americans, such as:
Make It In America jobs legislation – By 20 percentage points, voters rate the economy and jobs the single most important issue. [Washington Post poll, 9/9/14]
Fair Minimum Wage Act – “Seventy-one percent of people surveyed favor a hike in the federal minimum wage,” including 54% of Republicans. [CNN Money, 6/9/14]
Paycheck Fairness Act – 74% of Americans support “government efforts to address male-female income disparity in the United States.” [Politico, 5/2014]
Comprehensive Immigration Reform – Over 70% of Americans – including 64% of Republicans – support comprehensive immigration reform. [Politico, 5/19/14]
…AND WASTE TIME AND TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON POLITICAL MESSAGINGIn addition to ignoring the priorities of the American people, House Republicans’ obstruction and partisanship has wasted billions in taxpayer dollars and harmed our economy:
The Republican government shutdown cost our economy $24 billion. [CNN, 10/17/13]
Republicans’ refusal to meet our nation’s debt obligations cost our economy $1.3 billion. [Huffington Post, 9/22/12]
Over 50 votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act have cost taxpayers $79 million. [CBS News, 7/11/12]
Setting up the Benghazi Select Committee, to look at a tragedy that has been thoroughly investigated, will cost taxpayers $3.3 million. [USA Today, 7/7/14]
Over $2.3 million in taxpayer dollars was spent on an unsuccessful court battle to defend the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act. [Bloomberg, 6/26/13]
House Republicans have signed a no-bid contract to spend $350,000 on their political lawsuit against President Obama. [Washington Post, 8/25/14]
SENATE REPUBLICANS CONTINUE TO OBSTRUCT IN THE SENATERepublican obstruction isn’t limited to the House. Senate Republicans have blocked debate on bill after bill, including:
Paycheck Fairness Act, which would help close the gender gap in wages and ensure equal pay for equal work [4/9/14]
Fair Minimum Wage Act, which would raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour [4/30/2014]
Bring Jobs Home Act, which would stop giving tax breaks to companies that ship American jobs overseas and provide a new tax credit to businesses that bring outsourced jobs back to the United States. [7/30/14]
Energy Savings and Industrial Competitiveness Act, which would help Americans increase savings on their energy bills and create 200,000 American jobs. [5/12/14]
The Bank On Students Emergency Loan Refinancing Act, which would help decrease the burden of student loans for 25 million students. [6/11/2014]
SENATE REPUBLICANS PROMISE TO CONTINUE THEIR RECORD OF OBSTRUCTIONSenate Republicans intend to continue their record of obstruction and partisanship in the next Congress, already threatening another Republican-led shut down:
“Mitch McConnell has a game plan to confront President Barack Obama with a stark choice next year: Accept bills reining in the administration’s policies or veto them and risk a government shutdown… ‘We’re going to pass spending bills, and they’re going to have a lot of restrictions on the activities of the bureaucracy,’ McConnell said in an interview aboard his campaign bus traveling through Western Kentucky coal country. ‘That’s something he won’t like, but that will be done. I guarantee it.’” [Politico, 8/20/14]
HOUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED WILLINGNESS TO WORK ACROSS THE AISLE
Throughout this Congress, the House Republican leadership has relied on Democrats to pass nearly every major bill. For example:
85 Democrats voted for a measure to keep the government funded for three weeks while 54 Republicans voted against it [3/15/11]
81 Democrats voted for a measure to keep the government funded for the year while 59 Republicans voted against it [4/14/11]
95 Democrats voted for the Budget Control Act while 66 Republicans voted against it [8/1/11]
165 Democrats voted for the conference report for Agriculture, Commerce-Justice-Science, and Transportation-HUD appropriations bills while 101 Republicans voted against it [11/17/11]
149 Democrats voted for the omnibus appropriations bill for fiscal year 2012 while 86 Republicans voted against it [12/16/11]
147 Democrats voted to extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance while 91 Republicans voted against it [2/17/12]
183 Democrats voted to reauthorize the Export-Import Bank while 93 Republicans voted against it [5/9/12]
187 Democrats voted for highway, student loan relief, and flood extension while 52 Republicans voted against it [6/29/12]
172 Democrats voted for the fiscal cliff deal while 151 Republicans voted against it [1/1/13]
190 Democrats voted to add funds to Sandy relief package to fully meet the financial needs of the affected states while 190 Republicans voted against it [1/15/13]
192 Democrats voted for the final Sandy relief package while 179 Republicans voted against it [1/15/13]
199 Democrats voted for VAWA while 138 Republicans voted against it [2/28/13]
198 Democrats voted to reopen the government while 144 Republicans voted against [10/16/13]
81 Democrats voted for patent reform while 33 Republicans voted against it [12/5/13]
89 Democrats voted for the Farm Bill conference report, while 63 Republicans voted against it [1/29/14]
I understand some people are lazy and who can't look into any subject and rely on their own ignorant bullshit, while trying to tout their own intelligence, and in some cases, their own delusional popularity within this thread...... But you have no excuse to ignore facts, Randall.
Re: US Politics Thread
Randall Flagg wrote:misterID wrote:You blame everything on Bill Clinton instead of Bush, so please... From how long I've known you, you have never said or acted like Obama was your president.
Republicans turned into a bunch of whiney little bitches when Obama was elected, and started obstructing on a historic level, like threatening to default on the debt (first time in history) to refusing to vote on a supreme court justice (first time in history) and you guys REFUSED to give them any blame for their conduct. It's the only reason Trump had a chance because of their behavior. The GOP got the clown they deserve.
Have you ever taken a logic course?
Democrats control the Senate and Republicans control the house. Neither agrees on legislation and refuses to budge.
Your conclusion: "Fucking GOP obstructionist pigs. How dare they not rubber stamp what my party wants."
Republicans had both houses save a few months. You know they were obstructionists. Do you need an honesty course? Where is your integrity? Here's the list of historical obstructionism.
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM JOBS AND THE ECONOMY
Republicans walked away from a bipartisan Senate compromise, placing the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance at risk. [12/20/11]
91 Republicans walked away from the measure to extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance, and GOP leadership relied on 147 Democrats to pass it. [2/17/12]
Republicans walked away from the bipartisan Senate highway bill, which passed the Senate with 74 votes. [February-June 2012]
Republicans introduced their budget, which walked away from the Budget Control Act spending levels they agreed to in August 2011 [March 20, 2012]
93 Republicans walked away from reauthorizing the Export-Import Bank, and GOP leadership relied on 183 Democrats to pass the bill. [5/9/12]
52 Republicans walked away from a conference report to provide long-term highway funding, and GOP leadership relied on 187 Democrats to pass it. [6/29/12]
Republicans walked away from American workers by allowing part of the Trade Adjustment Assistance program, which provides critical job training and worker assistance, to expire. [12/31/13]
Republicans walked away from 1.3 million Americans by blocking consideration of legislation to renew emergency unemployment insurance, which expired on December 28. [1/9/14]
Republicans walked away from extending emergency unemployment assistance for people who lost their jobs on or before April 1, 2014. [1/15/14]
Republicans walked away from extending emergency unemployment assistance for people who lost their jobs on or before July 1, 2014. [1/28/14]
Republicans walked away from the Fair Minimum Wage Act, which increases the federal minimum wage for employees to $10.10 an hour. [2/26/14, 2/27/14, 4/2/14, 4/4/14, 4/29/14, 7/30/14]
Republicans walked away from extending emergency unemployment assistance for people who lost their jobs on or before January 1, 2015. [3/5/14, 3/6/14]
Republicans walked away from extending emergency unemployment assistance for people who lost their jobs on or before June 1, 2014. The measure Republicans voted against was identical to a bill that passed the Senate with bipartisan support. [4/8/14, 5/7/14]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM FISCAL RESPONSIBILITYRepublicans walked away from the Bowles-Simpson Bipartisan Fiscal Commission. [12/3/10]
54 Republicans walked away from a Continuing Resolution that would keep the government funded for three weeks, and GOP leadership relied on 85 Democrats to pass the bill. [3/15/11]
59 Republicans walked away from a Continuing Resolution that would keep the government funded for the year, and GOP leadership relied on 81 Democrats to pass the bill. [4/14/11]
Majority Leader Cantor walked away from the Biden deficit reduction talks. [6/23/11]
Speaker Boehner walked away from deficit reduction negotiations with President Obama. [7/22/11]
66 Republicans walked away from a bill that would have ensured our nation paid its bills, and GOP leadership relied on 95 Democrats in order to avoid default and ensure America would meet its obligations. [8/1/11]
101 Republicans walked away from a conference report for the Agriculture, Commerce-Justice-Science, and Transportation-HUD appropriations bills for Fiscal Year 2012, and GOP leadership relied on 165 Democrats to pass the bill. [11/17/11]
Republicans walked away from the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction. [11/21/11]
86 Republicans walked away from the omnibus for the remaining nine appropriations bill for Fiscal Year 2012, and GOP leadership relied on 149 Democrats to pass the bill.[12/16/11]
151 Republicans walked away from preventing the fiscal cliff, and GOP leadership relied on 172 Democrats to pass the bill. [1/1/13]
Republicans walked away from the American people and refused to work with House Democrats to replace the sequester, allowing arbitrary, across-the-board spending cuts to go into effect. [2/1/13]
221 Republicans walked away from meeting our nation’s debt obligations by passing H.R. 807, the Pay China First Bill, placing America closer to the risk of default. [5/ 9/13]
144 Republicans walked away from ending the government shutdown, and GOP leadership relied on 198 Democrats to end it, which cost the economy $24 billion. [10/16/13]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM WOMEN138 Republicans walked away from reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, and GOP leadership relied on all 199 House Democrats to pass the legislation. [2/28/13]
Republicans walked away from working women by voting against the Paycheck Fairness Act, which ensures equal pay for equal work by prohibiting sex discrimination in the payment of wages. [4/8/14, 7/30/14]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM STUDENTS52 Republicans walked away from a conference report to prevent student loan interest rates from doubling, and GOP leadership relied on 187 Democrats to pass it. [6/29/12]
Republicans walked away from America’s students and allowed student loan interest rates to double. [7/1/13]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORMAfter the Senate passed a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill by a strong vote of 68-32, Republicans walked away from the majority of Americans who support comprehensive reform by refusing to bring it to the Floor. They also walked away from the bipartisan House bill, H.R. 15, four times. [3/26/14, 7/31/14, twice on 8/1/14]
House Republican leadership walked away from one of their own members by telling Republican Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart, responsible for crafting the House Republican version of immigration reform, that they wouldn’t be bringing his bill to the Floor for a vote. [7/10/14]
House Republican leaders, facing a conservative revolt, were forced to pull their border crisis funding bill and tack further to the right – passing a partisan bill that went nowhere in the Senate and failed to provide the necessary resources to address the humanitarian crisis at the border. [7/31/14]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARERepublicans walked away from access to affordable health care for the 53rd time by voting to undermine or repeal the Affordable Care Act and offering no alternative legislation to replace it – despite their campaign pledge to repeal and replace. [9/11/14]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM DISASTER RELIEFIn the days immediately after Hurricane Sandy, 69 Republicans walked away from extending the National Flood Insurance program as families and businesses were actively assessing storm damage and making claims, and GOP leadership relied on 193 Democrats to keep the program operating. [1/4/13]
House Republican leadership refused to bring the Sandy supplemental aid bill to the Floor after the Senate passed it with strong bipartisan support. When a bill was brought to the Floor, 179 Republicans walked away from businesses and families affected by Hurricane Sandy, and GOP leadership relied on 192 Democrats to pass the bill. [1/15/13]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM THE FARM COMMUNITYRepublicans walked away from America’s farm communities by failing to pass a farm bill after they added harmful, partisan amendments to the original bill that would make drastic cuts to critical nutrition programs and after they failed to secure the votes needed for final passage from 62 of their own members. [6/18/13]
MEANWHILE, HOUSE REPUBLICANS IGNORE LEGISLATION THAT AMERICANS SUPPORT…Whether wasting time on political messaging bills or walking away from critical negotiations, House Republicans continue to ignore important legislation that enjoys the support of the majority of Americans, such as:
Make It In America jobs legislation – By 20 percentage points, voters rate the economy and jobs the single most important issue. [Washington Post poll, 9/9/14]
Fair Minimum Wage Act – “Seventy-one percent of people surveyed favor a hike in the federal minimum wage,” including 54% of Republicans. [CNN Money, 6/9/14]
Paycheck Fairness Act – 74% of Americans support “government efforts to address male-female income disparity in the United States.” [Politico, 5/2014]
Comprehensive Immigration Reform – Over 70% of Americans – including 64% of Republicans – support comprehensive immigration reform. [Politico, 5/19/14]
…AND WASTE TIME AND TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON POLITICAL MESSAGINGIn addition to ignoring the priorities of the American people, House Republicans’ obstruction and partisanship has wasted billions in taxpayer dollars and harmed our economy:
The Republican government shutdown cost our economy $24 billion. [CNN, 10/17/13]
Republicans’ refusal to meet our nation’s debt obligations cost our economy $1.3 billion. [Huffington Post, 9/22/12]
Over 50 votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act have cost taxpayers $79 million. [CBS News, 7/11/12]
Setting up the Benghazi Select Committee, to look at a tragedy that has been thoroughly investigated, will cost taxpayers $3.3 million. [USA Today, 7/7/14]
Over $2.3 million in taxpayer dollars was spent on an unsuccessful court battle to defend the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act. [Bloomberg, 6/26/13]
House Republicans have signed a no-bid contract to spend $350,000 on their political lawsuit against President Obama. [Washington Post, 8/25/14]
SENATE REPUBLICANS CONTINUE TO OBSTRUCT IN THE SENATERepublican obstruction isn’t limited to the House. Senate Republicans have blocked debate on bill after bill, including:
Paycheck Fairness Act, which would help close the gender gap in wages and ensure equal pay for equal work [4/9/14]
Fair Minimum Wage Act, which would raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour [4/30/2014]
Bring Jobs Home Act, which would stop giving tax breaks to companies that ship American jobs overseas and provide a new tax credit to businesses that bring outsourced jobs back to the United States. [7/30/14]
Energy Savings and Industrial Competitiveness Act, which would help Americans increase savings on their energy bills and create 200,000 American jobs. [5/12/14]
The Bank On Students Emergency Loan Refinancing Act, which would help decrease the burden of student loans for 25 million students. [6/11/2014]
SENATE REPUBLICANS PROMISE TO CONTINUE THEIR RECORD OF OBSTRUCTIONSenate Republicans intend to continue their record of obstruction and partisanship in the next Congress, already threatening another Republican-led shut down:
“Mitch McConnell has a game plan to confront President Barack Obama with a stark choice next year: Accept bills reining in the administration’s policies or veto them and risk a government shutdown… ‘We’re going to pass spending bills, and they’re going to have a lot of restrictions on the activities of the bureaucracy,’ McConnell said in an interview aboard his campaign bus traveling through Western Kentucky coal country. ‘That’s something he won’t like, but that will be done. I guarantee it.’” [Politico, 8/20/14]
HOUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED WILLINGNESS TO WORK ACROSS THE AISLE
Throughout this Congress, the House Republican leadership has relied on Democrats to pass nearly every major bill. For example:
85 Democrats voted for a measure to keep the government funded for three weeks while 54 Republicans voted against it [3/15/11]
81 Democrats voted for a measure to keep the government funded for the year while 59 Republicans voted against it [4/14/11]
95 Democrats voted for the Budget Control Act while 66 Republicans voted against it [8/1/11]
165 Democrats voted for the conference report for Agriculture, Commerce-Justice-Science, and Transportation-HUD appropriations bills while 101 Republicans voted against it [11/17/11]
149 Democrats voted for the omnibus appropriations bill for fiscal year 2012 while 86 Republicans voted against it [12/16/11]
147 Democrats voted to extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance while 91 Republicans voted against it [2/17/12]
183 Democrats voted to reauthorize the Export-Import Bank while 93 Republicans voted against it [5/9/12]
187 Democrats voted for highway, student loan relief, and flood extension while 52 Republicans voted against it [6/29/12]
172 Democrats voted for the fiscal cliff deal while 151 Republicans voted against it [1/1/13]
190 Democrats voted to add funds to Sandy relief package to fully meet the financial needs of the affected states while 190 Republicans voted against it [1/15/13]
192 Democrats voted for the final Sandy relief package while 179 Republicans voted against it [1/15/13]
199 Democrats voted for VAWA while 138 Republicans voted against it [2/28/13]
198 Democrats voted to reopen the government while 144 Republicans voted against [10/16/13]
81 Democrats voted for patent reform while 33 Republicans voted against it [12/5/13]
89 Democrats voted for the Farm Bill conference report, while 63 Republicans voted against it [1/29/14]I understand some people are lazy and who can't look into any subject and rely on their own ignorant bullshit, while trying to tout their own intelligence, and in some cases, their own delusional popularity within this thread...... But you have no excuse to ignore facts, Randall.
This research deserves all the karma I have to give,...
And Randall....I would appreciate a real response
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: US Politics Thread
misterID wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:Have you ever taken a logic course?
Democrats control the Senate and Republicans control the house. Neither agrees on legislation and refuses to budge.
Your conclusion: "Fucking GOP obstructionist pigs. How dare they not rubber stamp what my party wants."
Republicans had both houses save a few months. You know they were obstructionists. Do you need an honesty course? Where is your integrity? Here's the list of historical obstructionism.
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM JOBS AND THE ECONOMY
Republicans walked away from a bipartisan Senate compromise, placing the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance at risk. [12/20/11]
91 Republicans walked away from the measure to extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance, and GOP leadership relied on 147 Democrats to pass it. [2/17/12]
Republicans walked away from the bipartisan Senate highway bill, which passed the Senate with 74 votes. [February-June 2012]
Republicans introduced their budget, which walked away from the Budget Control Act spending levels they agreed to in August 2011 [March 20, 2012]
93 Republicans walked away from reauthorizing the Export-Import Bank, and GOP leadership relied on 183 Democrats to pass the bill. [5/9/12]
52 Republicans walked away from a conference report to provide long-term highway funding, and GOP leadership relied on 187 Democrats to pass it. [6/29/12]
Republicans walked away from American workers by allowing part of the Trade Adjustment Assistance program, which provides critical job training and worker assistance, to expire. [12/31/13]
Republicans walked away from 1.3 million Americans by blocking consideration of legislation to renew emergency unemployment insurance, which expired on December 28. [1/9/14]
Republicans walked away from extending emergency unemployment assistance for people who lost their jobs on or before April 1, 2014. [1/15/14]
Republicans walked away from extending emergency unemployment assistance for people who lost their jobs on or before July 1, 2014. [1/28/14]
Republicans walked away from the Fair Minimum Wage Act, which increases the federal minimum wage for employees to $10.10 an hour. [2/26/14, 2/27/14, 4/2/14, 4/4/14, 4/29/14, 7/30/14]
Republicans walked away from extending emergency unemployment assistance for people who lost their jobs on or before January 1, 2015. [3/5/14, 3/6/14]
Republicans walked away from extending emergency unemployment assistance for people who lost their jobs on or before June 1, 2014. The measure Republicans voted against was identical to a bill that passed the Senate with bipartisan support. [4/8/14, 5/7/14]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM FISCAL RESPONSIBILITYRepublicans walked away from the Bowles-Simpson Bipartisan Fiscal Commission. [12/3/10]
54 Republicans walked away from a Continuing Resolution that would keep the government funded for three weeks, and GOP leadership relied on 85 Democrats to pass the bill. [3/15/11]
59 Republicans walked away from a Continuing Resolution that would keep the government funded for the year, and GOP leadership relied on 81 Democrats to pass the bill. [4/14/11]
Majority Leader Cantor walked away from the Biden deficit reduction talks. [6/23/11]
Speaker Boehner walked away from deficit reduction negotiations with President Obama. [7/22/11]
66 Republicans walked away from a bill that would have ensured our nation paid its bills, and GOP leadership relied on 95 Democrats in order to avoid default and ensure America would meet its obligations. [8/1/11]
101 Republicans walked away from a conference report for the Agriculture, Commerce-Justice-Science, and Transportation-HUD appropriations bills for Fiscal Year 2012, and GOP leadership relied on 165 Democrats to pass the bill. [11/17/11]
Republicans walked away from the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction. [11/21/11]
86 Republicans walked away from the omnibus for the remaining nine appropriations bill for Fiscal Year 2012, and GOP leadership relied on 149 Democrats to pass the bill.[12/16/11]
151 Republicans walked away from preventing the fiscal cliff, and GOP leadership relied on 172 Democrats to pass the bill. [1/1/13]
Republicans walked away from the American people and refused to work with House Democrats to replace the sequester, allowing arbitrary, across-the-board spending cuts to go into effect. [2/1/13]
221 Republicans walked away from meeting our nation’s debt obligations by passing H.R. 807, the Pay China First Bill, placing America closer to the risk of default. [5/ 9/13]
144 Republicans walked away from ending the government shutdown, and GOP leadership relied on 198 Democrats to end it, which cost the economy $24 billion. [10/16/13]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM WOMEN138 Republicans walked away from reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, and GOP leadership relied on all 199 House Democrats to pass the legislation. [2/28/13]
Republicans walked away from working women by voting against the Paycheck Fairness Act, which ensures equal pay for equal work by prohibiting sex discrimination in the payment of wages. [4/8/14, 7/30/14]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM STUDENTS52 Republicans walked away from a conference report to prevent student loan interest rates from doubling, and GOP leadership relied on 187 Democrats to pass it. [6/29/12]
Republicans walked away from America’s students and allowed student loan interest rates to double. [7/1/13]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORMAfter the Senate passed a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill by a strong vote of 68-32, Republicans walked away from the majority of Americans who support comprehensive reform by refusing to bring it to the Floor. They also walked away from the bipartisan House bill, H.R. 15, four times. [3/26/14, 7/31/14, twice on 8/1/14]
House Republican leadership walked away from one of their own members by telling Republican Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart, responsible for crafting the House Republican version of immigration reform, that they wouldn’t be bringing his bill to the Floor for a vote. [7/10/14]
House Republican leaders, facing a conservative revolt, were forced to pull their border crisis funding bill and tack further to the right – passing a partisan bill that went nowhere in the Senate and failed to provide the necessary resources to address the humanitarian crisis at the border. [7/31/14]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARERepublicans walked away from access to affordable health care for the 53rd time by voting to undermine or repeal the Affordable Care Act and offering no alternative legislation to replace it – despite their campaign pledge to repeal and replace. [9/11/14]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM DISASTER RELIEFIn the days immediately after Hurricane Sandy, 69 Republicans walked away from extending the National Flood Insurance program as families and businesses were actively assessing storm damage and making claims, and GOP leadership relied on 193 Democrats to keep the program operating. [1/4/13]
House Republican leadership refused to bring the Sandy supplemental aid bill to the Floor after the Senate passed it with strong bipartisan support. When a bill was brought to the Floor, 179 Republicans walked away from businesses and families affected by Hurricane Sandy, and GOP leadership relied on 192 Democrats to pass the bill. [1/15/13]
REPUBLICANS WALK AWAY FROM THE FARM COMMUNITYRepublicans walked away from America’s farm communities by failing to pass a farm bill after they added harmful, partisan amendments to the original bill that would make drastic cuts to critical nutrition programs and after they failed to secure the votes needed for final passage from 62 of their own members. [6/18/13]
MEANWHILE, HOUSE REPUBLICANS IGNORE LEGISLATION THAT AMERICANS SUPPORT…Whether wasting time on political messaging bills or walking away from critical negotiations, House Republicans continue to ignore important legislation that enjoys the support of the majority of Americans, such as:
Make It In America jobs legislation – By 20 percentage points, voters rate the economy and jobs the single most important issue. [Washington Post poll, 9/9/14]
Fair Minimum Wage Act – “Seventy-one percent of people surveyed favor a hike in the federal minimum wage,” including 54% of Republicans. [CNN Money, 6/9/14]
Paycheck Fairness Act – 74% of Americans support “government efforts to address male-female income disparity in the United States.” [Politico, 5/2014]
Comprehensive Immigration Reform – Over 70% of Americans – including 64% of Republicans – support comprehensive immigration reform. [Politico, 5/19/14]
…AND WASTE TIME AND TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON POLITICAL MESSAGINGIn addition to ignoring the priorities of the American people, House Republicans’ obstruction and partisanship has wasted billions in taxpayer dollars and harmed our economy:
The Republican government shutdown cost our economy $24 billion. [CNN, 10/17/13]
Republicans’ refusal to meet our nation’s debt obligations cost our economy $1.3 billion. [Huffington Post, 9/22/12]
Over 50 votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act have cost taxpayers $79 million. [CBS News, 7/11/12]
Setting up the Benghazi Select Committee, to look at a tragedy that has been thoroughly investigated, will cost taxpayers $3.3 million. [USA Today, 7/7/14]
Over $2.3 million in taxpayer dollars was spent on an unsuccessful court battle to defend the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act. [Bloomberg, 6/26/13]
House Republicans have signed a no-bid contract to spend $350,000 on their political lawsuit against President Obama. [Washington Post, 8/25/14]
SENATE REPUBLICANS CONTINUE TO OBSTRUCT IN THE SENATERepublican obstruction isn’t limited to the House. Senate Republicans have blocked debate on bill after bill, including:
Paycheck Fairness Act, which would help close the gender gap in wages and ensure equal pay for equal work [4/9/14]
Fair Minimum Wage Act, which would raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour [4/30/2014]
Bring Jobs Home Act, which would stop giving tax breaks to companies that ship American jobs overseas and provide a new tax credit to businesses that bring outsourced jobs back to the United States. [7/30/14]
Energy Savings and Industrial Competitiveness Act, which would help Americans increase savings on their energy bills and create 200,000 American jobs. [5/12/14]
The Bank On Students Emergency Loan Refinancing Act, which would help decrease the burden of student loans for 25 million students. [6/11/2014]
SENATE REPUBLICANS PROMISE TO CONTINUE THEIR RECORD OF OBSTRUCTIONSenate Republicans intend to continue their record of obstruction and partisanship in the next Congress, already threatening another Republican-led shut down:
“Mitch McConnell has a game plan to confront President Barack Obama with a stark choice next year: Accept bills reining in the administration’s policies or veto them and risk a government shutdown… ‘We’re going to pass spending bills, and they’re going to have a lot of restrictions on the activities of the bureaucracy,’ McConnell said in an interview aboard his campaign bus traveling through Western Kentucky coal country. ‘That’s something he won’t like, but that will be done. I guarantee it.’” [Politico, 8/20/14]
HOUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED WILLINGNESS TO WORK ACROSS THE AISLE
Throughout this Congress, the House Republican leadership has relied on Democrats to pass nearly every major bill. For example:
85 Democrats voted for a measure to keep the government funded for three weeks while 54 Republicans voted against it [3/15/11]
81 Democrats voted for a measure to keep the government funded for the year while 59 Republicans voted against it [4/14/11]
95 Democrats voted for the Budget Control Act while 66 Republicans voted against it [8/1/11]
165 Democrats voted for the conference report for Agriculture, Commerce-Justice-Science, and Transportation-HUD appropriations bills while 101 Republicans voted against it [11/17/11]
149 Democrats voted for the omnibus appropriations bill for fiscal year 2012 while 86 Republicans voted against it [12/16/11]
147 Democrats voted to extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance while 91 Republicans voted against it [2/17/12]
183 Democrats voted to reauthorize the Export-Import Bank while 93 Republicans voted against it [5/9/12]
187 Democrats voted for highway, student loan relief, and flood extension while 52 Republicans voted against it [6/29/12]
172 Democrats voted for the fiscal cliff deal while 151 Republicans voted against it [1/1/13]
190 Democrats voted to add funds to Sandy relief package to fully meet the financial needs of the affected states while 190 Republicans voted against it [1/15/13]
192 Democrats voted for the final Sandy relief package while 179 Republicans voted against it [1/15/13]
199 Democrats voted for VAWA while 138 Republicans voted against it [2/28/13]
198 Democrats voted to reopen the government while 144 Republicans voted against [10/16/13]
81 Democrats voted for patent reform while 33 Republicans voted against it [12/5/13]
89 Democrats voted for the Farm Bill conference report, while 63 Republicans voted against it [1/29/14]I understand some people are lazy and who can't look into any subject and rely on their own ignorant bullshit, while trying to tout their own intelligence, and in some cases, their own delusional popularity within this thread...... But you have no excuse to ignore facts, Randall.
This research deserves all the karma I have to give,...
And Randall....I would appreciate a real response
It's factually and demonstrably false. The GOP didn't gain control of the house until the start of 2011. They didn't gain the senate until the start of 2015. That hardly qualifies as having both chambers besides a few months. By my count it's 6/2 compared to 2/6 or exactly even for those counting at home.
You want me to respond to a list of alleged obstructionist with no source or context? GOP refuses to support a budget amount they agreed to 8 months earlier. Did the contents of that budget change?
That's the problem. You don't make a distinction between obstructionist and disagreement. Congress' job isn't to pass whatever law the President wants. They're not a rubber stamp, so disagreement doesn't equal obstructionism. You guys also give no concern for context and rely on an unsourced list as evidence. You made up your mind and found something to support your view. That's not informed research or discussion.
The GOP has done some stupid shit. Not holding a vote on Obama's nominee is one. But if they refuse to vote yes on a nominee they dislike, that's democracy, not obstructionism.
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Yeah, like that ABC poll you posted recently showing Hillary +12. Trump is now +1 in that very same poll. That lead for Hillary was obviously bs to begin with, and the subsequent swing for Trump statistically impossible = fake poll.
You guys crack me up:
Hillary positive = rigged poll!
Outlier = fake poll!
Trump positive = great poll! He's going to win!
"Let's let everyone vote! Including non citizens!"
How are non citizens voting exactly? I guess they all sneak over here, and produce fake voter registration forms in their second language (if they speak it at all)
Pollux, how will we celebrate the big Trump victory? Can't come here because everyone will be sad.
How to celebrate? Find the girl closest to you (unless she's less than a 6), grab her by the pussy and shout "We made America great again!"
Trump currently has a 35% chance of winning according to 538. If those were my odds to hook up with Sofia Vergara I'd be pretty stoked. But Trump still has to crush it in swing states in order to get to 270, which looks unlikely, even after the poll numbers tightened.
Ha! Beautifully written post! What if he actually became a good president?
He's a lousy person, a shitty businessman, isn't interested in learning, and has zero experience governing...he will probably suck. The man brags and compares himself to Brexit, but just learned what it was less than 90 days ago.
The GOP got the clown they deserve.
The GOP mostly certainly deserve him (and some ironically champion him), the rest of us do not.
Do you guys think that if Hillary wins she'll finally be the democratic president to pull the trigger on putting everyone in fema camps?
Obama's FEMA camps are already built. George Soros financed the whole thing. Once Hillary becomes president they'll take away the guns, and ship conservative Christians to camps where the government will gay marry them. The lamestream media won't report this, but you can find all the facts out on youtube. Just open your eyes and see the truth!
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Obama's FEMA camps are already built. George Soros financed the whole thing. Once Hillary becomes president they'll take away the guns, and ship conservative Christians to camps where the government will gay marry them. The lamestream media won't report this, but you can find all the facts out on youtube. Just open your eyes and see the truth!
This had me cracking up.
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107 votes on a college football message board seems like an adequate sample size.
I will never forget during the 2008 election when we were discussing the results coming in and they called Delaware(or was it NH?) for Obama with literally 12 votes counted. I took a screenshot of CNN's site showing it. Unreal.
And this should be pointed out to you guys, since you're bad at math and don't like data: Hillary can lose Florida and Ohio and still beat Trump.
Isn't it still a statistical fact that whoever wins OH wins the presidency? I've always wanted to see that record get shattered.....it gives OH too much importance.
Never mind...you've convinced me....that foreign exchange student should not be cared for....
Probably got what he deserved....
He never said that and you know it. His point is there should be equal outrage for all murder victims. Not sure how anyone can argue otherwise but they do.
Cubs won the World Fucking Series so the world can end now, even at the orange hands of Drumpf.
Axl should've waited until 2016 to release Chinese Democracy.
Do you guys think that if Hillary wins she'll finally be the democratic president to pull the trigger on putting everyone in fema camps?
No but she'll be the first president advocating a confrontation with Russia.
That FEMA camp conspiracy is bat shit crazy.
Republicans had both houses save a few months. You know they were obstructionists. Do you need an honesty course? Where is your integrity? Here's the list of historical obstructionism.
Dems had both as well during Obama's first term.....didn't do jack shit. Can you pull up a list of excuses on that issue too?
