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Randall Flagg wrote:slcpunk wrote:Speaking of voter suppression based on race, this today:
Federal Judge Says North Carolina Must Restore Voter Registrations Of Those Removed From Rolls
The North Carolina NAACP sued the state on Monday, claiming a purge targeted black voters.WASHINGTON ? County election boards in North Carolina must restore the registrations of voters removed from the polls, U.S. District Judge Loretta Biggs ordered on Friday.
The order follows an emergency hearing held on Wednesday to address allegations that election officials in Beaufort, Moore and Cumberland counties had removed voters from the rolls due to campaign mailers that were returned as undeliverable.
The North Carolina NAACP sued the state on Monday, claiming the purge targeted black voters. The Justice Department submitted a statement of interest in the lawsuit on Monday night supporting the assertion that removing voters from the rolls en masse is a violation of the National Voter Registration Act.
Biggs, who during the hearing called the state’s process for removing voters’ names “insane,” said in her ruling that the NC NAACP had proved that names were unfairly removed.
“The Court finds that a narrowly tailored injunction is warranted to ensure that eligible voters are not deprived of their right to participate in the upcoming election due to a flawed process engaged in by the State and County Boards, which this Court has determined likely violates the NVRA,” Biggs said in her decision.
“Voter enfranchisement cannot be sacrificed when citizens through no fault of their own have been removed from the voter rolls,” she added.
Rev. William Barber, the president of the NC NAACP, said the court ruled against “surgical, intention racism.”
“Racism is about policy,” Barber said on a call with reporters. “It’s not just about feelings, it’s not just about language. It’s when you use your power ? or attempt to use your power ? to undermine the rights of people and you target it toward African-Americans.”
The civil rights group argues that these cancellations are an attempt by the Republican Party to suppress the black vote, which is lower this year than it was in 2012.
At least 5,600 registrations have been removed in Cumberland County for varying reasons since 2014, while 790 and 63 were removed in Moore and Beaufort counties, respectively.
At least 3,500 voters were removed in the past 90 days, according to Penda Hair, an attorney representing the NAACP. The cancellations could have cost Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton the election, since most of the voters are black and tend to lean Democrat.
It’s still unclear whether or not those people will be able to vote on Election Day.
State law mandates that voters within any given county can challenge the eligibility of another voter in that county up to 25 days before the election.
But the National Voter Registration Act says states can only cancel registrations if a voter provides written notice of a change in address or if a voter does not respond to a notice for two election cycles and fails to vote for two federal election cycles. States also cannot remove voters from the rolls 90 days or less before a federal election.
“What they’re doing is race-driven. It’s immoral, illegal and it is unconstitutional. The courts have spoken,” Barber said. “We’ve not seen this kind of intentional suppression since the days of Jim Crow.”
You guys love screaming race, and I'm not saying I agree 100% with what the counties did, but if you're not living at your registered address, you don't vote in that precinct. You guys refuse the most basic of verification to ensure someone is who they say they are, but demand every other aspect of our lives be verified by the government. Want to fish, need a license. Want to drive, take the $200 course and provide 20 documents. Want a gun, undergo a federal background check you have to pay for. But fuck having the slightest sanity check that prevents liberal groups from rounding up the homeless and offering a free donut if you check the block with a (D) next to it.
Homeless people shouldn't vote...you're right...
Also, I don't think anyone here is yelling race....the article points out these people who are removed from the roll call list were disproportionately black. It's a fact....not a talking point.
Also, I have to know... you have no comment on the Trump voter voted twice for Trump?
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mitchejw wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:You guys love screaming race, and I'm not saying I agree 100% with what the counties did, but if you're not living at your registered address, you don't vote in that precinct. You guys refuse the most basic of verification to ensure someone is who they say they are, but demand every other aspect of our lives be verified by the government. Want to fish, need a license. Want to drive, take the $200 course and provide 20 documents. Want a gun, undergo a federal background check you have to pay for. But fuck having the slightest sanity check that prevents liberal groups from rounding up the homeless and offering a free donut if you check the block with a (D) next to it.
Homeless people shouldn't vote...you're right...
Also, I don't think anyone here is yelling race....the article points out these people who are removed from the roll call list were disproportionately black. It's a fact....not a talking point.
Also, I have to know... you have no comment on the Trump voter voted twice for Trump?
You guys keep telling me voter fraud doesn't happen. I can cite 20 instances of fraud the past few years. It's always handwaived as an anomaly. There are no checks in place to validate the integrity of the system.
Put them in jail. But don't pretend it's republicans overwhelmingly cooking the books. Felons, illegals, etc have no right to vote. But I guess it's ok that ACORN like groups register dead people in urban areas that vote overwhelming democratic.
Require a state ID and this shit goes away.
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Trump getting crushed in early voting in Nevada and will probably lose Nevada.
EARLY VOTING BLOG: Early voting kills Trump in NV
UPDATED, 11/5/16, 7 AM
Donald Trump will be in Reno on Saturday, but the Republicans almost certainly lost Nevada on Friday.
Trump's path was nearly impossible, as I have been telling you, before what happened in Clark County on Friday. But now he needs a Miracle in Vegas on Election Day -- and a Buffalo Bills Super Bowl championship is more likely -- to turn this around. The ripple effect down the ticket probably will cost the Republicans Harry Reid's Senate seat, two GOP House seats and control of the Legislature.
How devastating was it, epitomized by thousands of mostly Latino voters keeping Cardenas market open open in Vegas until 10 PM? This cataclysmic:
----The Democrats won Clark County by more than 11,000 votes Friday (final mail count not posted yet), a record margin on a record-setting turnout day of 57,000 voters. The Dems now have a firewall -- approaching 73,000 ballots -- greater than 2012 when Barack Obama won the state by nearly 7 points. The 71,000 of 2012 was slightly higher in percentage terms, but raw votes matter. The lead is 14 percentage points -- right at registration. You know what else matters? Registration advantages (142,000 in Clark). Reminder: When the Clark votes were counted from early/mail voting in 2012, Obama had a 69,000 vote lead in Clark County. Game over.
----The statewide lead (some rurals not posted) will be above 45,000 -- slightly under the 48,000 of 2012, but still robust. That's 6 percentage points, or right about at registration. The GOP turnout advantage was under a percent, worse than 2012 when it was 1.1 percent.
----The Dems eked out a 200-vote win in Washoe and lead there by 1,000 votes. It was even in 2012. The rural lead, before the stragglers come in, is 27,500. It probably will get above 28,000.
----Total turnout without those rurals: 768,000, or 52.5 percent. If overall turnout ends up being 80 percent, that means two thirds of the vote is in -- close to 2012. Republicans would have to not only win Election Day by close to double digits to turn around the lead Hillary Clinton almost surely has in early voting, but they would have to astronomically boost turnout. The goal for the Dems during early voting was to bank votes and to boost turnout as high as possible to minimize the number of votes left on Election Day to affect races. Folks, the Reid Machine went out with a bang.
As an exclamation point to a historic night in Nevada, in which Clinton essentially locked up the state and Hispanics, insulted all cycle by Trump, streamed into the market, here is what the final Cardenas numbers showed (tallied by an on-the-ground activist):
1,904 voted
1,258: Ds, 66%
165: Rs, 9%
481: NPs, 25%
So Cardenas was responsible for adding 1,000 to the Democratic lead.
Trump has almost no path to the presidency without Nevada. He can say whatever he wants in Reno on Saturday and boost rural turnout a lot, but he made his own bed when he announced his candidacy.
I'll dive deeper into the numbers later to show just how deep the wave could be Tuesday.
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mitchejw wrote:mitchejw wrote:Homeless people shouldn't vote...you're right...
Also, I don't think anyone here is yelling race....the article points out these people who are removed from the roll call list were disproportionately black. It's a fact....not a talking point.
Also, I have to know... you have no comment on the Trump voter voted twice for Trump?
You guys keep telling me voter fraud doesn't happen. I can cite 20 instances of fraud the past few years. It's always handwaived as an anomaly. There are no checks in place to validate the integrity of the system.
Put them in jail. But don't pretend it's republicans overwhelmingly cooking the books. Felons, illegals, etc have no right to vote. But I guess it's ok that ACORN like groups register dead people in urban areas that vote overwhelming democratic.
Require a state ID and this shit goes away.
Once again...you've skirted the question. It appears it's only voter fraud on behalf of Democrats that you're concerned with...not voter fraud in general.
In a country where people beat their chest about liberty freedom and democracy, we have elections were less than 50% of our population participates. I guess we should keep it that way. What a crock of shit.
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everyone has a right to vote, but not everyone should vote. We have a lot of stupid fuckers in this country... look at our 2 picks for Christ's sake.
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NV GOP Chairman is butthurt over all the Latinos voting the night before last here in Vegas. He sure sounds like he'd prefer if they limited voting.
Just saying, but if this happened in the UK he'd be under investigation, berated even by the right wing press and be banned from his own political party.
Rushed off the state up in Reno.
The guy that got escorted out afterwards said in an interview he was holding up a sign saying Republicans Against Trump, then someone shouted "gun".
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Looks like that "head-shot" to the Clinton campaign was a bunch of nothing, as the FBI director has announced today.
FBI Dir just informed us "Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Sec Clinton"
— Jason Chaffetz (@jasoninthehouse) November 6, 2016
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After all that.
...But hasn't the damage already been done?
