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Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

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slcpunk wrote:
misterID wrote:

I'm talking about the arra. You mean the cop arresting Henry Louis Gates for trying to get into his own home? Obama was right, the cop was stupid. Obama getting blamed for bad race relations is completely assanine. The amount of open racism spouted at Obama was insane. Did you hear what that fat ugly cunt Palendino said about him just a week ago?

A black man talking about race is "divisive" in their book or even racist.

If one of your neighbors called the police cause someone they didn't recognize was outside your house, the police showed up, and the guy started screaming racism, so the cops just left, would you be ok with that?  I'm sure you'd be as quiet as a newborn kitten if all of your shit was stolen and the cops response was "he told us he lived here and called us racist for asking".  What is the right answer there?  I don't know why we're talking about this years later, but when someone starts screaming at a cop after being approached, they're the aggressor and escalator. 

We're not the ones saying people can't talk about race based on their color.  When "whitey" wants to comment on race, we're told they can't understand the black experience.  Only one side wants speech codes and thought police.  You're being disingenuous here.

misterID
 Rep: 475 

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misterID wrote:

The woman told 911 the people might be having an issue with their key and they live there. Gates was talking to the Harvard maintenance department when the cop showed up. The woman who called 911 backed up what gates said. The cop knew who Gates was and that he lived there when he arrested him. Which he was cleared of and no charges were filed. It shows some issues with whites screaming persecution as much as blacks screaming racism.

Smoking Guns
 Rep: 330 

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Smoking Guns wrote:

Maddow put on Notice? Haha... nah... MG will be more like a Katie Couric. I am glad she is gone from Fox. I want Shannon Bream to take her spot.

misterID
 Rep: 475 

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misterID wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Trump scolded congress for dissololving ethics board....I give him credit

Conway was on TV this morning championing the move. It was the constituents of these repubs who called them up, giving them hell about it. That's what changed the tide. And give the New York Times some credit for exposing this thing. Trump's not even on the same page as his administration.

Smoking Guns
 Rep: 330 

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Smoking Guns wrote:
misterID wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Trump scolded congress for dissololving ethics board....I give him credit

Conway was on TV this morning championing the move. It was the constituents of these repubs who called them up, giving them hell about it. That's what changed the tide. And give the New York Times some credit for exposing this thing. Trump's not even on the same page as his administration.

It was Trump that sealed the deal. You would try to take credit away from him. Yes people called up. But the Trump tweet was the final "we better not do this" moment. Trump deserves some credit for calling it out. I am with Mitch. He could have defended it.

misterID
 Rep: 475 

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misterID wrote:

He didn't say he was against it, he said he was against the timing of it. If his tweet helped push the withdrawal along, good for him. I'll buy him a cookie.

Smoking Guns
 Rep: 330 

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Smoking Guns wrote:
misterID wrote:

He didn't say he was against it, he said he was against the timing of it. If his tweet helped push the withdrawal along, good for him. I'll buy him a cookie.

Of course it helped!  He said exactly what we all felt. Come on man....

misterID
 Rep: 475 

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misterID wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:
misterID wrote:

He didn't say he was against it, he said he was against the timing of it. If his tweet helped push the withdrawal along, good for him. I'll buy him a cookie.

Of course it helped!  He said exactly what we all felt. Come on man....

He basically said not to do it now. Not to save the ethics committee. I would hope, and what I initially thought he said, they wouldn't do it all. That's different. Sorry if I'm skeptical, but it's the same guy deliberately/strategically making tweets to take credit for automotive deals that were in place before he came along and had nothing to do with. That's weak.

I give him credit for being very social media savvy. He watched the meltdown about the issue on all the morning shows and took action... At the same time is spokeswoman was defending it! 14

bigbri
 Rep: 341 

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bigbri wrote:

Trump surely helped, but it was constituents who flooded House offices with calls, emails, social media that really got their attention.






The 19 hours of tumult was set in motion the night before behind closed doors at the Longworth House Office Building, where Republican lawmakers decided over the objections of Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) to amend House rules to effectively gut the independent Office of Congressional Ethics.

They awoke Tuesday to an intense public outcry. Social media lit up with criticism of representatives trying to rein in the ethics office created a decade ago in the aftermath of scandals. Angry constituents inundated their representatives’ offices with calls of protest. Journalists peppered lawmakers with questions. The halls of the Capitol felt chaotic.

Then, shortly after 10 a.m., came the loudest objection of all: A pair of tweets from President-elect Donald Trump scolding Congress for making the weakening of the ethics watchdog its “number one act and priority.”

"“I can tell you the calls we’ve gotten in my district office and here in Washington surprised me, meaning the numbers of calls. People are just sick and tired,” Rep. Walter B. Jones (R-N.C.) said of the simmering outrage over the proposed change. “People are just losing confidence in the lack of ethics and honesty in Washington.”

mitchejw
 Rep: 130 

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mitchejw wrote:

It still doesn't detract from the fact that the same people who villified Hillary for her unethical ways are the same people who want to do away with watch dog groups that keep everyone in-line.

Why does the Republican Party have to behave this way? It makes me loath all of them.

Especially in light of the fact that you could interpret trumps words as that it's only the timing he opposes.

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