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- Randall Flagg
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Randall Flagg wrote:My point is in the article. Hate crimes committed by Trump supporters after the election are non existent. But by telling a group of people for the past 70 years that they're perpetual victims and not responsible for their actions, you create an environment where young people think this shit is acceptable.
Reading comprehension is hard. I wasn't aware this happened after Trump was elected. The fucker's going to get the chair. Congrats on the one hate crime in 30 years. I mean, you quoted me ffs.
- Randall Flagg
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Randall Flagg wrote:slcpunk wrote:What is your point? A group of scumbags commit a crime and that negates the message of a segment of people who are tired of being shot by police?
My wife deals with lying ass Vets trying to scam the system almost everyday for a monthly check. Does that also mean you'll be looking for a way to game the system as well? Can we lump you all together?
Are we still pretending that BLM is a legitimate organization with a valid argument? Are they not front and center every time some riot and looting breaks out? Would they not be burning down Chicago as we speak if the roles were reversed?
The last time veterans rioted was after WW1. So I don't get the comparison at all.
My point is in the article. Hate crimes committed by Trump supporters after the election are non existent. But by telling a group of people for the past 70 years that they're perpetual victims and not responsible for their actions, you create an environment where young people think this shit is acceptable.
Total white guy nonsense.
And there it is. If I typed "total black guy" nonsense, you'd all be calling be Jeff Sessions or Bannon. I don't accept that the color of your skin affects your circumstances or ability to have an opinion in 2017. But if you want to go down that road and claim that some stereotypical experience enlightens one, don't say another word about war or policy in the middle east since you've never been there. I have a hunch your logic won't apply in that case.
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misterID wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:Are we still pretending that BLM is a legitimate organization with a valid argument? Are they not front and center every time some riot and looting breaks out? Would they not be burning down Chicago as we speak if the roles were reversed?
The last time veterans rioted was after WW1. So I don't get the comparison at all.
My point is in the article. Hate crimes committed by Trump supporters after the election are non existent. But by telling a group of people for the past 70 years that they're perpetual victims and not responsible for their actions, you create an environment where young people think this shit is acceptable.
Total white guy nonsense.
And there it is. If I typed "total black guy" nonsense, you'd all be calling be Jeff Sessions or Bannon. I don't accept that the color of your skin affects your circumstances or ability to have an opinion in 2017. But if you want to go down that road and claim that some stereotypical experience enlightens one, don't say another word about war or policy in the middle east since you've never been there. I have a hunch your logic won't apply in that case.
The victimhood applies across the board. Everyone wants to play the victim, including, and especially, conservative white guys, who just love bemoaning how other people act, how shitty their lot in life is. How unfair their life is compared to this group of stereotypical people you made up in your own head get it. You love tell us how "they" think. Typical white guy nonsense. But I should say, a certain segment of white guy.
Because this man was assaulted I need to chastise the entire black race? An entire movement who feel they have been unfairly characterized and viewed? I have issues with BLM, but to tie them into a crime of a group of thugs is nonsense. That's ignorance. That's what you did. It was a typical white guy knucklehead response to immediately tie one thing to another. Basically, see. I was right about them all along!
70 years of victimhood. That's funny. Because it was just 50 years ago they were actually viewed as equal citizens.
- Randall Flagg
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I don't think I'm a victim. I think I've been dealt bad hands and been treated unfairly at random moments in my life like every other human being. I've never gone hungry or lacked shelter a day in my life, like 99% of Americans. I don't believe you can make sweeping generalizations about a person based on their skin color. I don't automatically assume someone has it good or bad based on their skin color. You and others do apparently.
I'm not condemning any race. Just Black Lives Matter which is a complete fucking farce that has undoubtedly made things many times worse for all people.
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You said they have been taught to feel like victims and not to have responsibilities for their own actions. That was you. That was stereotyping. And acting like they're doing this on some wide scale. They don't seem to know any better, as you're alluding. Did BLM attack that man? Did they send out orders? Or did a group of animals do something horrific like the thousands upon thousands of lynchings across the south?
- Randall Flagg
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Re: US Politics Thread
You said they have been taught to feel like victims and not to have responsibilities for their own actions. That was you. That was stereotyping. And acting like they're doing this on some wide scale. They don't seem to know any better, as you're alluding. Did BLM attack that man? Did they send out orders? Or did a group of animals do something horrific like the thousands upon thousands of lynchings across the south?
Thousands upon thousands? Any evidence for that?
And yes, when I hear people saying fuck Trump and fuck whitey, especially in Chicago, I associate them with the moronic black lives matter movement. Cause if you're worried about the value of black lives, the last place you'd focus on are police shootings. Since Chicago had more murders last year than LA and NYC combined and almost all of them were black, I'd say gang violence among black males is the first place to look at to resolve the issue. When one party not only tolerates but embraces the false narrative of BLM, you bet your ass I'm going to blame that ideology and narrative.
Or do you think this current climate in no way contributed to the actions of these 4 people? You guys were saying Palin sharing an image with targets over vulnerable congressional seats incited mass shootings. But I guess BLM is free from this accusation or thought process.
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Get a history book? We don't blame the entire white race for the acts of animals who murdered people in the name of the white race, do we?
Because you hate a group you're immediately blaming them for a horrific crime that has zero connection to? Okay. No, I don't think BLM is instigating anything, because violence at protests, for example, was happening way before it was created. Before that it was the stupid anarchist movement which is mainly made up of privlaged white kids. I have a serious problem of shifting individual responsibility to a group you disagree with because it's convenient for your argument. Like people blaming video games for every crime a gamer committed, because they hate video games.
Like in any protest it's going to attract assholes who are looking to take advantage of the situation. There were many more non violent protests. As Trump himself said, when you're following orders, with your hands up, you shouldn't be shot. When you are sitting on the ground with your hands on your head, trying to protect an autistic individual, you should not be shot, etc. etc.
- Randall Flagg
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Re: US Politics Thread
Get a history book? We don't blame the entire white race for the acts of animals who murdered people in the name of the white race, do we?
Because you hate a group you're immediately blaming them for a horrific crime that has zero connection to? Okay. No, I don't think BLM is instigating anything, because violence at protests was happening way before it was created. Before that it was the stupid anarchist movement which is mainly made up of privlaged white kids. I have a serious problem of shifting individual responsibility to a group you disagree with because it's convenient for your argument. Like people blaming video games for every crime a gamer committed, because they hate video games.
Like in any protest its going to attract assholes who are looking to take advantage of the situation. There were many more non violent protests. As Trump himself said, when you're following orders, with your hands up, you shouldn't be shot. When you are sitting on the ground with your hands on your head, trying g to protect an autistic individual, you should not be shot, etc. etc.
Who had their hands up and was shot?
