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Shocker: Turns out tax payers are going to pay for the "wall" but we'll get Mexico to pay us on the backend. My guess is through some type of convoluted "tariff" or whatever BS Trump peddles.
Of course now Trump says the media picking on (aka "reporting") him again over all this.
- Smoking Guns
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Shocker: Turns out tax payers are going to pay for the "wall" but we'll get Mexico to pay us on the backend. My guess is through some type of convoluted "tariff" or whatever BS Trump peddles.
Of course now Trump says the media picking on (aka "reporting") him again over all this.
Well back in October he said this very thing. For speed purpose we built of the wall and collect later.
- Smoking Guns
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I am still glad the hacks happened. The end result justified the means. We found out how shady and corrupt our folks can be. It is a shame that Russia had to reveal this. Russia is not our friend. They "shouldn't" have hacked but the info we got was valuable.
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I am still glad the hacks happened. The end result justified the means. We found out how shady and corrupt our folks can be. It is a shame that Russia had to reveal this. Russia is not our friend. They "shouldn't" have hacked but the info we got was valuable.
That's a very cunt thing to say. It was worth reading backbiting comments on a campaign to justify Russians trying to influence our elections and undermine our democracy. Yes, the world needed to know this, we could not have survived the injustice of Democrats not wanting Bernie to get the nomination, it would have changed so much had she won. It was totally worth Russia committing cyber terrorism and espionage, and Julian Assange's little Hillary hard on, was so worth it because the oh so valuable, world changing information that Donna Brazil wanted Hillary to win.
You are a true patriot.
- Randall Flagg
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Smoking Guns wrote:I am still glad the hacks happened. The end result justified the means. We found out how shady and corrupt our folks can be. It is a shame that Russia had to reveal this. Russia is not our friend. They "shouldn't" have hacked but the info we got was valuable.
That's a very cunt thing to say. It was worth reading backbiting comments on a campaign to justify Russians trying to influence our elections and undermine our democracy. Yes, the world needed to know this, we could not have survived the injustice of Democrats not wanting Bernie to get the nomination, it would have changed so much had she won. It was totally worth Russia committing cyber terrorism and espionage, and Julian Assange's little Hillary hard on, was so worth it because the oh so valuable, world changing information that Donna Brazil wanted Hillary to win.
You are a true patriot.
How was our democracy undermined?
I don't like Russia. I'm the only one here who has been anti Russia the entire time. The only one who has been anti Wikileaks from day one.
But how the fuck was our democracy undermined by Russia releasing the emails of the DNC?
For weeks after the election you were claiming Trump had an asterisk next to his name cause Clinton won the popular vote. It was anti Democratic you said. So how is showing how undemocratic the DNC truly is, in both their handling of Sanders and leaking information to Clinton ahead of debates, undermining democracy.
"Russia undermined our Democracy by showing how the DNC undermined democracy."
Do you not see the problem with this?
I have no problem with the DNC working to keep Sanders off their ballot. Sanders isn't a democrat. He had done nothing to benefit the party or its candidates. I can't think of anyone who has done more for the DNC than the Clinton's. the amount of money and campaign assistance they've provided the past 30 years is unprecedented. There is no doubt where their loyalties lie. Sanders isn't even decent enough to change his party affiliation to the DNC. So I get why Schultz and the party didn't want Sanders taking advantage of their infrastructure.
But they lied about it. They publicly said they weren't advocating on Clinton's behalf. And they got caught. No one else is to blame but themselves for creating this predicament.
But the DNC wants to exploit the retards who think a $15 minimum wage and free college and healthcare for all is feasible. The GOP is no different. They use the retarded tea party types for the same purpose. I have very close friends in both the GOP and DNC and both privately mock the Sanders/occupy and tea party dipshits for their beliefs. But they both acknowledge the importance of their activism come campaign time, so they tolerate them.
The difference is it was crystal clear the GOP was working to keep Trump out. Name one serious primary candidate in the GOP who didn't call Trump a fraud. Now contrast that with the DNC's public persona regarding Sanders and what we know happened behind the curtain.
So tell me again how Russia undermined our democracy by revealing the truth?
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I am still glad the hacks happened. The end result justified the means. We found out how shady and corrupt our folks can be. It is a shame that Russia had to reveal this. Russia is not our friend. They "shouldn't" have hacked but the info we got was valuable.
The question you should be asking is...why didn't they reveal Trump's tax returns...or anything about Trump for that matter...
If you're going to hack...you must have an agenda....
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I have no problem with the DNC working to keep Sanders off their ballot. Sanders isn't a democrat. He had done nothing to benefit the party or its candidates. I can't think of anyone who has done more for the DNC than the Clinton's. the amount of money and campaign assistance they've provided the past 30 years is unprecedented. There is no doubt where their loyalties lie. Sanders isn't even decent enough to change his party affiliation to the DNC. So I get why Schultz and the party didn't want Sanders taking advantage of their infrastructure.
You could say the exact same things about Trump without changing a word...
One party manipulated the process and the other did not...look who won. I tell you what though...us registered Dems already knew this...we didn't need Russia to tell us.
The question you really need to wonder about is; why would Russia spend the resources of a feeble and weak economic country on a US presidential election. And....are they waiting for a return on their investment?
But the DNC wants to exploit the retards who think a $15 minimum wage and free college and healthcare for all is feasible.
It's not retarded....it's socialism. A form of government that exists successfully all over the world. Here's where I get so confused. I've seen you post about the rising costs of higher education and ridicule the current system. There are other options to consider to ameliorate this problem. You could remove government student loans....or you could do what Bernie suggested.
Higher education is a necessity in modern society. We've got plenty of ditch diggers in this country. We're behind in science and math. There's a reason we let doctors and scientists come here from other countries. It's because we're too lazy to make our own.
Put that in your red, white and blue pipe and smoke it!
Conservatives love their country so much...but when it comes time to talk about our country as a collective whole...they don't care...they have a disdain for environmental scientists....they don't give a shit about the shortage of higher education professions. They herald a guy and elected a president that gloats about "being smart" by avoiding paying his fair share of taxes. The common good means nothing to that party.
- Randall Flagg
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Smoking Guns wrote:I am still glad the hacks happened. The end result justified the means. We found out how shady and corrupt our folks can be. It is a shame that Russia had to reveal this. Russia is not our friend. They "shouldn't" have hacked but the info we got was valuable.
The question you should be asking is...why didn't they reveal Trump's tax returns...or anything about Trump for that matter...
If you're going to hack...you must have an agenda....
Hacking the IRS is a tad more difficult than a non government system. But you know why, Russia wanted to harm Clinton to increase the odds Trump won.
One of the interesting tidbits in the released report is one of the reasons why Russia wanted Trump over Clinton. Putin believed Trump would be more likely to assist in wiping out ISIS over Clinton. Based on what she allowed to happen in State and what Obama allowed to happen, I can certainly see the logic.
- Randall Flagg
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It's not retarded....it's socialism. A form of government that exists successfully all over the world. Here's where I get so confused. I've seen you post about the rising costs of higher education and ridicule the current system. There are other options to consider to ameliorate this problem. You could remove government student loans....or you could do what Bernie suggested.
I stand by my comments. You're a Bernie supporter. You made that clear at the start. Here are some of your comments during the election. Read them now and you'll see why they're problematic for the DNC and why they knew Sanders supporters were a liability that needs to be kept at arms length.
"I dunno...I don't know if the U.S. deserves to survive. Not in its current form anyway. If this is really the best the world can do...I think I'm disappointed."
"who cares what the minn. wage is....ain't no one but the bottom of the barrel gonna work for that....and then they're gonna go do crack on their time off and miss work the next day"
"James, PaSnow....others....
If you learn conservative, and you truly believe Trump has lost....I would have to turn to outrage if I were you.
There is no excuse for Trump to have 1 office in Florida while Clinton has 50+. There is literally no excuse. This is a state that is won by a few thousand votes some times. He wasted a lot of time, money and resources. He wasted an election cycle. Now Republicans might be asking, "how bad is the damage going to be." In other words, who else is Trump going to cost during this election cycle? Democrats have the inside track to take back the Senate. It's not a sure thing by any means...but Trump is helping the cause."
"Do you know why? Hillary doesn't do any interviews because she doesn't have to.
That's how garbage Donald is as a candidate.
Hillary is kneeling the ball in the third quarter."
"I'm sick of this. I don't care how corrupt or terrible Hillary is which has far less facts to support it then obviously all of the Donald's, if you want to make your decisions based on propaganda then go right ahead.
If Donald went to the White House and called Obama a nigger and raped Michelle you guys would support it.
I support Hillary even with all of the alleged corruption."
"He will not win Wisconsin there's no chance. Wisconsin is weird because they have Scott Walker at governor. But Trump didn't even come close to winning the primary there. He is not well liked in Wisconsin."
