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Randall Flagg
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No one is saying Trump had any calloboration with Putin. Just that a lawyer of his did, which has been debunked.

If there were any truth to this, Trump wouldn't be on TV calling it a complete lie. Clinton tried that in 98 and got impeached for it.   I'm sure he didn't believe she kept the fucking dress. In this instance, they're claiming a video exists so the hope of not getting caught vanishes. Some people just want to believe anything that makes their perceived enemy look bad, regardless of how absurd it is. That yahoo who shot up a pizza joint because he heard Hillary had a child sex ring there proves that point perfectly.

PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:

I found it odd tho he kept referencing it as "They should never have leaked that". Seemed peculiar to me, a bit of semantics maybe, but he didn't toss it off like it was completely absurd & tin foil hat.

Granted, he said it was "Fake fake fake" but he's been saying what people want to hear for 2 years.

I felt it was completely false more before the press conference then after.

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

If there were any truth to this, Trump wouldn't be on TV calling it a complete lie. .

You've got to be kidding.

Randall Flagg wrote:

Some people just want to believe anything that makes their perceived enemy look bad, regardless of how absurd it is. That yahoo who shot up a pizza joint because he heard Hillary had a child sex ring there proves that point perfectly.

Your false equivalence is a bit much. Again, was Hillary or anybody else briefed about a child sex ring in a pizza joint?

Trump's collusion with the Russians has been floating around for months. Journalists sat on it, this was hardly some knee jerk thing.

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:

Hey guys, it must be a lie, just like everything else, because Trump was on TV saying it was a lie!

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:

By all accounts his press conference was a disaster. Hardly a shocker though.

Randall Flagg
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slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

If there were any truth to this, Trump wouldn't be on TV calling it a complete lie. .

You've got to be kidding.

Randall Flagg wrote:

Some people just want to believe anything that makes their perceived enemy look bad, regardless of how absurd it is. That yahoo who shot up a pizza joint because he heard Hillary had a child sex ring there proves that point perfectly.

Your false equivalence is a bit much. Again, was Hillary or anybody else briefed about a child sex ring in a pizza joint?

Trump's collusion with the Russians has been floating around for months. Journalists sat on it, this was hardly some knee jerk thing.

Claims. No evidence. They sat on it because there was no evidence.  Your devotion to wacky theories on Republican officials really handicaps your ability to be taken seriously.

mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:

His press conference was a disaster....but I would understand if none of this was true...why he'd be so pissed....

But it was still a disaster...and he'd better get used to it. The ever so slight majority of this country utterly despises this man.

Trump endears himself to nobody outside of who already backs him.

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Your devotion to wacky theories on Republican officials really handicaps your ability to be taken seriously.

Yea "Whacky" theories put for by all of the intelligence communities, a dozen women who claim to have been groped by this man, unending lawsuits, liens placed by contractors he's fucked over, statements that have actually come out of his mouth...and so on. Yea, so "whacky. "

You do realize that in just one snippet of this press conference the President Elect said Russia probably hacked us, then said being on good terms with Putin is considered an "Asset". Then turned around and said he would be much tougher on Putin than Hillary ever could be.

His conflicts of interests, his cabinet picks, his juvenile infatuation with twitter wars rather than intelligence briefings....it goes on and on. Those are facts.

Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:

Watched some of the presser.. Wow. That was entertaining!!  He answered a lot of questions but was very good at deflecting.  Went after media hard.  I don't love the style but it is fun to watch.

Randall Flagg
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slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Your devotion to wacky theories on Republican officials really handicaps your ability to be taken seriously.

Yea "Whacky" theories put for by all of the intelligence communities, a dozen women who claim to have been groped by this man, unending lawsuits, liens placed by contractors he's fucked over, statements that have actually come out of his mouth...and so on. Yea, so "whacky. "

You do realize that in just one snippet of this press conference the President Elect said Russia probably hacked us, then said being on good terms with Putin is considered an "Asset". Then turned around and said he would be much tougher on Putin than Hillary ever could be.

His conflicts of interests, his cabinet picks, his juvenile infatuation with twitter wars rather than intelligence briefings....it goes on and on. Those are facts.


And none of that has anything to do with claims he hired prostitutes to piss and shit on a bed because Obama stayed there. None of that has anything to do with claims he collaborated with Putin to hack the DNC.

The editor of The NY Times said these claims are completely unsubstantiated. So did Buzzfeed. But you, a reasonably intelligent person in all other areas, want to ignore the opinions of one of the top journalists in the world, and proclaim it's true.

The FBI said the RNC wasn't hacked. Some po dunk state party systems were infiltrated, but not the RNC. There is no evidence Russia has any intel on Trump or the GOP.

The intelligence you're referring to says the claims were unsubstantiated. They were claims made to the MI6 operative and documented in opposition research. I'm sure if we looked at the opposition research on Clinton there'd be claims she was involved with Huma. But just because an anonymous source says something doesn't mean it's remotely true or has a shred of evidence. That's why reputable sources didn't go to print on this. That's why CNN is considered a fucking joke.

Be angry at his nominees and policies. Be angry that our president has the temperament of a 14 year old cheer leader.

But when you go after bullshit stories like this, it undercuts everything else you say.

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