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mitchejw wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:Yes but if people started paying st 25 vs 27 that added millions of people into the pool of people that can pay. Instead they are hanging in their parents policy with just a slight uptick on their parents policy. If you are 26 it doesn't mean you can't afford it. That said at 26 your insurance should not be over $150 per month. I am 37 and mine for some fucked up reason is $400 per month. FOR AN INDIVIDUAL. I went to the doctor a total of 0 times last year.
How does that change anything though? Whether you are on your parents' policy or you have your own you're still in the pool, right? I have 3 people on my policy and it is obviously much higher than it would be if it was just me.
I didn't use my insurance once last year either....my premium is $538/month...add 2 others onto that and it gets really steep.
Not. It is cheaper to add one person to a policy vs that individual getting their own policy. I would think but I could be wrong. Plus it is a bigger strain on the companies honestly.
I'm not certain of that either...I don't quite understand how it puts a bigger strain on the company though...
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Re: US Politics Thread
Smoking Guns wrote:mitchejw wrote:How does that change anything though? Whether you are on your parents' policy or you have your own you're still in the pool, right? I have 3 people on my policy and it is obviously much higher than it would be if it was just me.
I didn't use my insurance once last year either....my premium is $538/month...add 2 others onto that and it gets really steep.
Not. It is cheaper to add one person to a policy vs that individual getting their own policy. I would think but I could be wrong. Plus it is a bigger strain on the companies honestly.
I'm not certain of that either...I don't quite understand how it puts a bigger strain on the company though...
Cause companies had to not only pay for their employees but then add their kids back on that fell off that were the ages 23-26. I think 23 was the old cut off.
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Realistically tho, the number of employess the average company has with kids 23-26 at home without their own benefits providing job is probably extremely small. Especially for smaller businesses who ACA might hurt the most. I work for a company with about 100 employees. I'd guess maybe 1 or 2 might fit that category. An extra couple hundred or thousand dollars for a company staffing 100 is peanuts. Consider payroll, taxes, healthcare, rent/lease, marketing, paper & supplies, marketing, advertising, corporate phone/internet/TV etc.
I get what you're saying, but I don't think its much of a factor.
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Realistically tho, the number of employess the average company has with kids 23-26 at home without their own benefits providing job is probably extremely small. Especially for smaller businesses who ACA might hurt the most. I work for a company with about 100 employees. I'd guess maybe 1 or 2 might fit that category. An extra couple hundred or thousand dollars for a company staffing 100 is peanuts.
I get what you're saying, but I don't think its much of a factor.
I'd have to agree...plus...lots of times the company only ponies up a percentage regardless...let's say it's 50%, then it's only 50% more of the extra, added costs of a 23-26 year old.
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INTELLIGENCE INSIDERS NOW CLAIM THE TRUMP DOSSIER IS "A COMPLETE FRAUD!" @OANN
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 14, 2017
MI5 isn't claiming it 
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INTELLIGENCE INSIDERS NOW CLAIM THE TRUMP DOSSIER IS "A COMPLETE FRAUD!" @OANN
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 14, 2017MI5 isn't claiming it
Executed poorly and too little too late. Trump is the pres, we will have a lot more shit to judge him on other than him getting pissed on.
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AtariLegend wrote:INTELLIGENCE INSIDERS NOW CLAIM THE TRUMP DOSSIER IS "A COMPLETE FRAUD!" @OANN
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 14, 2017MI5 isn't claiming it
Executed poorly and too little too late. Trump is the pres, we will have a lot more shit to judge him on other than him getting pissed on.
Yes, a LOT more shit. Like the fact Comey has been investigating secret Russian business ties with Trump at the same time he released his letter about Hillary but STILL refuses to talk about it... Because he doesn't confirm or deny investigations to the public. Yes, he seriously said that on Tuesday.
Edit: beaten to the punch 
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Two phrases spring to mind: don't bullshit a bullshitter + the old internet adage, pics or it didn't happen.
& why would the yanks give two shits about British intelligence agencies? Sure they like James Bond but why would they trust them on matters of national self interest? It's entirely possible MI5 have been duped by misinformation.
Putin's on a hot streak. MI5 look weak, American intelligence is being shunned by the soon to be commander in chief. Germany & France are in his sights.
Even if the dossier is bullshit, which it seemingly is, the questions over his links to Russia will not go away. What's utterly bizarre is the impact it's having on the American public. It's like we've woken up in bizarro world. I mean, IF he has been compromised by Russia it's an act of treachery, no? But sure, his supporters have defended his belligerent bullish conduct and lies so far, I guess they're in it for the long haul.
Of course, if he hasn't been compromised then where does that leave you? Certainly Trump is in a more powerful position vs his intelligence services & could quite reasonably gut and rebuild them. It's pretty clear the American public are losing faith, or have lost faith in those agencies.
As an outsider I'd be more concerned with the similar sort of conflict he is having with the press. He could theoretically redesign the freedom of the press in the US. He's already bullying them & corralling them, I thought the manner in which they took their scolding at the recent press conference was worrying: why did no one in the room accuse him of being rude? Is it out of respect for the office he holds, or out of fear of him? Either way, those notions are unhelpful to them in this age where he shows them no respect & is rewriting what's acceptable behaviour.
