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- Randall Flagg
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So everyone there was a Nazi? Can you at least try to be honest and not a total asshole? Can you try to defend your claims with facts and not scurry off, sending your personal ball licker love notes through Karma?
Did you not advocate violence before it started? Did not "your group" instigate violence by macing people? The NYTimes wrote that the violence was just as bad on the left before people with the IQ of Mitch started howling.
How many people have been killed by Nazis in America in the last 20 years and how many under Allah. I know there's not a YouTube video made by a college drop out that can hand you your talking points. Samantha Bea isn't very good at coming up with rebuttals. But can you try to be an adult and prove that you're as smart as you think?
I didn't say there weren't nazis there. But the idea that everyone who was there or falls under the "alt-right" (whatever the fuck that term means) and that the violence wasn't equal between idiots on both sides is laughable. You wanted violence. You advocated for it right here. Then someone died because the group of people with your same talking points pissed off the wrong retard. So own it. Own that you're everything you accuse Trump of being.
I'm not defending this assholes. But I'm also not defending the ANTIFA/BLM crowd either. You know, that whole consistency thing you continually fail to grasp.
"I'm not a violent person. But I sure as hell like advocating Nazis get punched in the face"
"What's a nazi, SLC?"
"Anyone who doesn't think like me and requires more discussion than a 30 second Samantha Bea clip."
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See? Now Flagg wants to deny there were even Nazis there. What a shocker.
Why do I call them Nazis? Gee I dunno moron, maybe because that's what they call themselves...
https://s29.postimg.org/5lr8sj6sn/Nazi_VA.jpg
https://s3.postimg.org/818ttshyb/Nazi_VA1.png
They won't show this on Fox News....so that means it never happened.
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They won't show this on Fox News....so that means it never happened.
Fox News narrative will be about ANTIFA, which is insane to claim for a few reasons. 1) Many of the Nazis showed up with bats, shields, guns, helmets, riot gear and so on. They went there looking for trouble. 2) They're an anti-fascist group. I may not agree with everything they do, but the point remains we have a fraction of the right wing who ID themselves as Nazis/Fascists and another group who is against them. Fox is attacking the anti fascist group...just bonkers. 3) Fascists were pepper sprayed...boo hoo hoo. They're an enemy of our state. They should be pepper sprayed. They should be run out of town. On the other hand, one woman was murdered and 19 others injured by Nazis. Simply for protesting against racism. In America. In 2017.
Finally, we've heard for years how Muslims are creeping into this country and will eventually try to impose Sharia law on Americans. That they are a huge security/terrorist threat. While there are some valid points to be made about the dangers of Islam, they're not currently marching in the streets in riot gear, swords, waving ISIS flags and and heavily armed like Nazis are. However Nazis are marching in our streets, shouting Nazi slogans, waving Nazi flags, and giving Nazi salutes. These right wing domestic terrorists are here right now, speaking out against American values and murdering Americans in the street ISIS style.
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Nazi shitbags celebrate her death:
Heather Heyer: Woman Killed in Road Rage Incident was a Fat, Childless 32-Year-Old Slut
- Randall Flagg
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Nazi shitbags celebrate her death:
Heather Heyer: Woman Killed in Road Rage Incident was a Fat, Childless 32-Year-Old Slut
Look for the most heinous and shocking opinion and you'll find it. Who the fuck thinks what that piece of shit did was ok? Who thinks that woman deserved to be killed or harmed in any way?
Who are these people? The klan has less than 2k members nation wide. They estimate the white supremacy shit around similar numbers. Let's be generous and say 10k of these people exist. Who thinks they're worth listening to? Who values the opinions they hold? Is it members of the other 10k?
Arrest the prick. Charge him with the death penalty. But the idea that this behavior is something new and exclusive to these idiots is bullshit. We've had years of far leftists disrupting speakers, rioting in the streets, assaulting counter protestors. No one in power supported it, but they did nothing to stop it. Now they've emboldened the neo Nazi shit heads who were shamed into obscurity.
This is going to be the victim card to allow the leftist to go further. Shutting down the mall of America or blocking an interstate won't be enough. Burning down a store or breaking the windows at Ann Coulter won't be enough. So more people bored enough to go protest free thought and different opinions will get smacked in the head with a tire iron by a masked assailant. Good job. You got everything you wanted. What you didn't consider is unlike the antifa crazies, the skin heads have assault rifles and have the same desire to die for the cause as a Jihadi.
So keep hoping "nazis" get clubbed in the head. Soon they'll be returning bullets, and unlike you, I don't want blood in the streets.
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slcpunk wrote:Nazi shitbags celebrate her death:
Heather Heyer: Woman Killed in Road Rage Incident was a Fat, Childless 32-Year-Old Slut
Look for the most heinous and shocking opinion and you'll find it. Who the fuck thinks what that piece of shit did was ok? Who thinks that woman deserved to be killed or harmed in any way?
Who are these people? The klan has less than 2k members nation wide. They estimate the white supremacy shit around similar numbers. Let's be generous and say 10k of these people exist. Who thinks they're worth listening to? Who values the opinions they hold? Is it members of the other 10k?
Arrest the prick. Charge him with the death penalty. But the idea that this behavior is something new and exclusive to these idiots is bullshit. We've had years of far leftists disrupting speakers, rioting in the streets, assaulting counter protestors. No one in power supported it, but they did nothing to stop it. Now they've emboldened the neo Nazi shit heads who were shamed into obscurity.
This is going to be the victim card to allow the leftist to go further. Shutting down the mall of America or blocking an interstate won't be enough. Burning down a store or breaking the windows at Ann Coulter won't be enough. So more people bored enough to go protest free thought and different opinions will get smacked in the head with a tire iron by a masked assailant. Good job. You got everything you wanted. What you didn't consider is unlike the antifa crazies, the skin heads have assault rifles and have the same desire to die for the cause as a Jihadi.
So keep hoping "nazis" get clubbed in the head. Soon they'll be returning bullets, and unlike you, I don't want blood in the streets.
Then you're saying it doesn't matter that these people were saying "hail trump" and claiming deep support for trump?
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I don't think it matters because they're irrelevant. The militias of the northwest are far more frightening, IMO. There's a gay guy in Atlanta who has banned all police and soldiers from joining his gym. Does it really matter? No, the guy is irrelevant.
Two groups wanted attention and were looking for a fight. The leftists showed up with bats and pepper spray too. They were throwing rocks and a newspaper stand (seriously). The unfortunate thing, the freaking tragedy, is that the real peaceful protestors were the ones who were hurt, yet again, but this time someone was killed. Let's be honest, for the last few years the left has been showing up to real peaceful protests with their masks and bricks and turn them into riots and NO ONE says anything. Where people have been seriously hurt. They show up, from out of town, specifically to antagonize and start violence and MSNBC justifies it as anger. They. aren't the real protestors. That's legitimate.
I'm not taking up for anyone of these cunts, but the fake counter protests came there looking for what happened, too.
- Randall Flagg
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This past weekend I was honored to be in a most picturesque place with some great and hospitable folks in Prescott (Yavapai County) Arizona. I was there to address the Republican Women of Prescott, the nation’s largest Republican women’s club, on their 75th anniversary. The scenery there was just breathtaking and there was just a sense of solemnness that we all need experience from time to time. How great a contrast it was from what was happening across the country in Charlottesville, Virginia.
Let me begin by saying, I deplore any form of supremacist view — white, black, Hispanic, Islamic. I will be the first to openly state and embrace, a sense of American exceptionalism and supremacy that is rooted in our founding principles and values. Any and all else that is contradictory is to be condemned. What I have witnessed post the events of Saturday 12 August is the typical Rahm Emanuel mentality and political posturing: “never let a good crisis go to waste.”
Therefore, I seek to assess what really happened in Charlottesville, Virginia.
First, may God rest the soul of 32-year-old Heather Heyer who tragically lost her life. My sincere condolences to her, her family, and those others who were injured. I fully support seeking the death penalty for 20-year-old James Alex Fields Jr. of Ohio who committed this horrific act of violence. But, how did we get to this place?
This all began because someone decided, as other elected officials have across the country, to cave in to partisan political pressures and seek to erase American history. History is not there for us to love or hate, but for us to learn from and seek to not repeat its mistakes.
If there are those who truly believe we protect ourselves by trying to revise history due to false emotions, then we miss out on who we are as a nation, and our evolution. The statues of long since deceased leaders of the Confederate Army do not stand to remind anyone of oppression. And if a statue can oppress you, then I submit that you have greater issues.
I certainly did not appreciate former President Barack Obama taking a photo op in Cuba before the image of Che Guevara, nor do I enjoy seeing anyone wearing said image on t-shirts here in America…but I do not go into some whimsical state of “oppression.”
And so it is that we do possess in this Constitutional Republic a freedom of speech and freedom of expression. It would appear that said group who didn’t wish to see the statue of Virginian, General Robert E. Lee, who was a commissioned U.S. Army officer, graduate of West Point, and served the nation in the Mexican War, taken down did apply for a permit to hold a rally. We can dislike these individuals, but they took proper measures to secure permission to express their First Amendment right.
Contrary to their position, the word went out for a counter-protest to occur which included groups from a different side of the political spectrum, who have also been very guilty of hateful rhetoric and violence. What should have happened is that these two groups should have been kept miles apart. I do not understanding why any local law enforcement agency would allow these two groups close proximity…first lesson learned. And we must also ascertain, did the counter-protest group seek permit or did they just “show up” in order to provoke, and elicit a response they could use “politically?” Yes, motivations are important to understand in this case, if we’re serious about getting to the bottom of what happened in Charlottesville and not just the typical media-driven frenzy.
I find it rather odd that so many are seeking to lay blame on President Trump for what happened in Charlottesville. And there are some voices out there who want to blame all white people, and all Republicans. How odd that when it was the New Black Panther Party outside a voting precinct in Philadelphia in black fatigues and with clubs, nothing was said. As a matter of fact, they weren’t even prosecuted for voter intimidation. And when it was the riots in Ferguson and Baltimore fueled by media false narratives and a presidential administration’s rhetoric, there was no blame laid on Barack Obama. It appears to me that there is a blatant hypocrisy when an individual commits a horrible crime, such as in Charleston, South Carolina, and a collective group of people are to be held accountable.
But, when there’s an Islamic terror attack people say, “we cannot rush to judgment” or “this is not indicative of all Muslims”…to wit I agree, but why not call the enemy for what it is” militant Islamic terrorism or jihadism? Why must some be browbeaten into condemning the actions of a few, yet we have others who have fully admitted their support to groups calling for a “resistance?” And where were the voices to condemn the violence in Washington DC on Inauguration Day, or even at UC-Berkeley…or the violence committed against those who support the current president or hold beliefs aligned with Constitutional conservatism?
If we want to condemn groups such as the neo-Nazis and others, then we must also condemn groups such as BLM and Antifa. And we need to stop the cherrypicking, as they all should be investigated. Let’s end this absurdity of trying to connect the Republican Party with the Ku Klux Klan, since it was a creation of the Democrat Party. And I seem to recall Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, infamously known as a grand wizard of the Klan, lauded over at his memorial by Barack Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton. It was Senator Byrd who was vehemently against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but it was Republican Senator Everett Dirksen who supported its passage.
James Alex Fields will be punished to the full extent of the law, and I truly believe he should never see the light of day again. But if we blindly do not realize there has been an atmosphere of hatred fomented in this nation, we are ignorant. Who even remembers the fella who attempted to gun down several Republican Members of Congress at a baseball practice, severely wounding Rep. Steve Scalise? The mainstream liberal progressive media pushed that aside rather quickly, and let us not forget MSNBC commentator, Joy Reid, who on her Sunday show actually sought to justify Rep. Scalise’s shooting because of his voting record. Now, where was the condemnation there, and why is it that Ms. Reid still has a position and a show on that network?
Fareed Zakaria praised the Central Park play depicting the “Caesar-like” stabbing to death of President Trump — last time I checked he was still on CNN. And how many Democrat elected officials were pressured into making statements of condemnation of one Kathy Griffith who notoriously held up the bloodied severed head resembling President Trump?
There’s plenty of guilt to be passed around here, but the progressive socialist left will sadly exploit this for all they can. They will horribly believe this will provide them some sort of electoral advantage. They fail to realize they’re just as complicit in what happened in Charlottesville. Let me ask that age-old rhetorical question: “if a tree falls in the woods, and no one is there, does it make a sound?”
If we were to go back and ponder this incident and just let a small group of disaffected individuals hold a rally to protest the possible taking down of a statue of General Robert E. Lee, and no one had showed up…Instead a call went out and trouble, violence ensued. Or maybe, if we had courageous elected officials who would just say, those statues aren’t offending anyone; they’re part of American history, and they stay. Imagine that, would there even be a story, any rally, and violence?
What happened in Charlottesville must not be allowed to happen again. And that means we need to hold ANY group responsible that promotes violence. “What do we want, dead cops; when do we want them, now”…”Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon”…no more. Our streets aren’t the place for hoods and masks, such as Antifa wears, and their violence and destruction of property. Let’s call them all out, and not have this selective enforcement mentality rooted in partisan political hackery. If we don’t stop the blatant hypocrisy, which is truly the problem, then we’re sitting on a powder keg — which I believe some wish for.
I have an idea. If y’all want to fight, sign up in the U.S. military — if you meet the standards. There are plenty of folks who do indeed hate the United States. Channel your angst against them…not each other.
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I don't think it matters because they're irrelevant. The militias of the northwest are far more frightening, IMO. There's a gay guy in Atlanta who has banned all police and soldiers from joining his gym. Does it really matter? No, the guy is irrelevant.
Two groups wanted attention and were looking for a fight. The leftists showed up with bats and pepper spray too. They were throwing rocks and a newspaper stand (seriously). The unfortunate thing, the freaking tragedy, is that the real peaceful protestors were the ones who were hurt, yet again, but this time someone was killed. Let's be honest, for the last few years the left has been showing up to real peaceful protests with their masks and bricks and turn them into riots and NO ONE says anything. Where people have been seriously hurt. They show up, from out of town, specifically to antagonize and start violence and MSNBC justifies it as anger. They. aren't the real protestors. That's legitimate.
I'm not taking up for anyone of these cunts, but the fake counter protests came there looking for what happened, too.
I logged in just to give you karma for this. There's hope for you yet ID.
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The Nazis showed up heavily armed with guns in full view, ready for a fight and ready to indimidate. No reasonable person would compare these two groups and say they were the same, or were equally to blame for what happened. In an act of domestic terrorism, a Nazi ran over 19 people, killing one. They also committed a variety of assaults on other Americans who attended.
And I can guarantee you that if American Muslims who supported ISIS marched down the street spouting their twisted religious ideology, nobody on the right and I mean NOBODY would ever say that counter protests were part of the problem as well. They'd call them patriots who stood up to radical Islamic terrorists with pepper spray and bats.
