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PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

Hey, I seached for posts by me with the phrase "Randall Flagg". Didn't find it but I came across this little gem:  http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.p … 50#p196850


Kumbaya


Haha, I wasn't anywhere near Pakistan on that day.  I was in Augusta, GA going through the Army's Cyber school.

It was a metaphorical statement.

PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:

You dropped off from here for a long time.

Randall Flagg
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PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

Hey, I seached for posts by me with the phrase "Randall Flagg". Didn't find it but I came across this little gem:  http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.p … 50#p196850


Kumbaya


Haha, I wasn't anywhere near Pakistan on that day.  I was in Augusta, GA going through the Army's Cyber school.

It was a metaphorical statement.


Haha, I know.  I just remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when the news broke.

PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:
misterID wrote:

Mitch, take it down a notch. You guys are in a pissing match and it's annoying seeing you guys constantly calling each other names and egging each other on.

Hey, there were bad posts on many sides. Many sides. Did you see the way the alt-right posters were posting?  Yeah there were some bad people out there, but there were some good ones.

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Randall Flagg
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Apparently, as long as violent leftists label their victims "fascists," they are free to set fires, smash windows and beat civilians bloody. No police officer will stop them. They have carte blanche to physically assault anyone they disapprove of, including Charles Murray, Heather Mac Donald, Ben Shapiro, me and Milo Yiannopoulos, as well as anyone who wanted to hear us speak.

Even far-left liberals like Evergreen State professor Bret Weinstein will be stripped of police protection solely because the mob called him a "racist."

If the liberal shock troops deem local Republicans "Nazis" -- because some of them support the duly elected Republican president -- Portland will cancel the annual Rose Festival parade rather than allow any Trump supporters to march.

They're all "fascists"! Ipso facto, the people cracking their skulls and smashing store windows are "anti-fascists," or as they call themselves, "antifa."

We have no way of knowing if the speakers at the Charlottesville "Unite the Right" rally last weekend were "Nazis," "white supremacists" or passionate Civil War buffs, inasmuch as they weren't allowed to speak. The Democratic governor shut the event down, despite a court order to let it proceed.

We have only visuals presented to us by the activist media, showing some participants with Nazi paraphernalia. But for all we know, the Nazi photos are as unrepresentative of the rally as that photo of the drowned Syrian child is of Europe's migrant crisis. Was it 1 percent Nazi or 99 percent Nazi?

As the "Unite the Right" crowd was dispersing, they were forced by the police into the path of the peace-loving, rock-throwing, fire-spraying antifa. A far-left reporter for The New York Times, Sheryl Gay Stolberg, tweeted live from the event: "The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding 'antifa' beating white nationalists being led out of the park."

That's when protestor James Fields sped his car into a crowd of the counter-protesters, then immediately hit reverse, injuring dozens of people, and killing one woman, Heather Heyer.

This has been universally labeled "terrorism," but we still don't know whether Fields hit the gas accidentally, was in fear for his life or if he rammed the group intentionally and maliciously.

With any luck, we'll unravel Fields' motives faster than it took the Obama administration to discern the motives of a Muslim shouting "Allahu Akbar!" while gunning down soldiers at Fort Hood. (Six years.)

But so far, all we know is that Fields said he was "upset about black people" and wanted to kill as many as possible. On his Facebook page, he displayed a "White Power" poster and "liked" three organizations deemed "white separatist hate groups" by the Southern Poverty Law Center. A subsequent search of his home turned up bomb-making materials, ballistic vests, rifles, ammunition and a personal journal of combat tactics.

Actually, none of that is true. The paragraph above describes, down to the letter, what was known about Micah Xavier Johnson, the black man who murdered five Dallas cops a year ago during a Black Lives Matter demonstration. My sole alteration to the facts is reversing the words "black" and "white."

President Obama held a news conference the next day to say it's "very hard to untangle the motives." The New York Times editorialized agnostically that many "possible motives will be ticked off for the killer." (One motive kind of sticks out like a sore thumb to me.)

In certain cases, the media are quite willing to jump to conclusions. In others, they seem to need an inordinate amount of time to detect motives.

The media think they already know all there is to know about James Fields, but they also thought they knew all about the Duke lacrosse players, "gentle giant" Michael Brown and those alleged gang-rapists at the University of Virginia.

Waiting for facts is now the "Nazi" position.

Liberals have Republicans over a barrel because they used the word "racist." The word is kryptonite, capable of turning the entire GOP and 99 percent of the "conservative media" into a panicky mass of cowardice.

This week, Mitt Romney and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) -- among others -- instructed us that masked liberals hitting people with baseball bats are pure of heart -- provided they first label the likes of Charles Murray or some housewife in a "MAGA" hat "fascists."

Luckily, the week before opening fire on Republicans, critically injuring House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, Bernie Sanders-supporter James Hodgkinson had used the vital talisman, calling the GOP "fascist." So you see, he wasn't trying to commit mass murder! He was just fighting "Nazis." Rubio and Romney will be expert witnesses.

And let's recall the response of Hillary Clinton to the horrifying murder of five Dallas cops last year. The woman who ran against Trump displayed all the moral blindness currently being slanderously imputed to him.

In an interview on CNN about the slaughter that had taken place roughly 12 hours earlier, Hillary barely paused to acknowledge the five dead officers -- much less condemn the shooting -- before criticizing police for their "implicit bias" six times in about as many minutes.

What she really wanted to talk about were the two recent police shootings of black men in Baton Rouge and Minneapolis, refusing to contradict Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton's claim that the Minneapolis shooting was based on racism.

Officers in both cases were later found innocent of any wrongdoing. Either the left has had a really bad streak of luck on their police brutality cases, or bad cops are a lot rarer than they think.

Some people would not consider the mass murder of five white policemen by an anti-cop nut in the middle of a BLM protest a good jumping-off point for airing BLM's delusional complaints about the police. It would be like responding to John Hinckley Jr.'s attempted murder of President Reagan by denouncing Jodie Foster for not dating him.

Or, to bring it back to Charlottesville, it would be as if Trump had responded by expounding on the kookiest positions of "Unite the Right" -- just as Hillary's response echoed the paranoid obsessions of the cop-killer. Trump would have quickly skipped over the dead girl and railed against black people, Jews and so on.

That is the precise analogy to what Hillary did as the bodies of five Dallas cops lay in the morgue.

Thank God Donald J. Trump is our president, and not Mitt Romney, not Marco Rubio and not that nasty woman.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-08-16.htm

PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:

Sad to see it again in Barcelona, these people are just nutjobs. As Chris Rock said, when people came up with all the excuses over Columbine, "Whatever happened to just 'Crazy'".

Trumps gotta be going bonkers cause no way he can pull out his "Radical Islamic Terrorists" card after saying the people chanting "Jews will not replace us" and carrying Nazi flags had some good people in the crowd, and not calling it itself an act of terror. So far the two seem pretty identical. Its obvious he thinks terrorism is held only for that of Middle Easterners.

He's now got a rally Tuesday night in Phoenix. I'm wondering if he has the pardon of the sheriff set to revolve around that speech. That'd be my guess.

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

Trumps gotta be going bonkers cause no way he can pull out his "Radical Islamic Terrorists" card after saying the people chanting "Jews will not replace us" and carrying Nazi flags had some good people in the crowd, and not calling it itself an act of terror.

Wanna make a bet? lol

PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:

I'll find the time to read this. This could be it inside. I was over my parents and snuck in an ep of cable TV news, Maddow. This guy was on, Adam Davidson of The New Yorker, and admitted there's just too many shell business & ties in the Trump brand for a reporter to review the dealings and properties of each, and transactions disclosed. Somehow he heard Robert Mueller might be looking into this one, and if so, Trump seemingly might try to overthrow him saying this is too far a breach of his scope.

I'd like to buy this issue as its long (I like reading paper vs online, hurts my eyes), it seems Kazakstan/oligarchs issued a loan to a shell company Silk Road Group, which, in the end has members of the bank on it. The claimed they were going to do a complete overhaul of a run down Georgian city Batumi, waterfront on the Black Sea. Trump was paid only $1 million for naming rights (just throw his name on it) and the company SRG was to do the work. Hotels, restaurants, telecom etc... Only they had no prior experience in those fields. They're only experience essentially was exporting Kazakistan oil.

The work seemingly never got done. It is considered bank fraud tho to take a loan from a bank your a member of (or on the board). I'm not sure if Trumps ties into the web go further, but one thought is Putin might have this knowledge and have used it to blackmail Trump.  Jay Sekulow, Trumps personal lawyer, said that  “the Georgia real-estate deal is something we would consider out of scope,” adding, “Georgia is not Russia.”

It ends with:  Robert Mueller has assembled a team of sixteen lawyers. One of them is fluent in Russian, and five have extensive experience investigating and prosecuting cases of money laundering, foreign corruption, and complex financial conspiracies. The path from Trump to Putin, if one exists, might be found in one of his foreign real-estate deals.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/ … corruption

Could be Woodward & Bernstein worthy.  Which is why Trumps making news over there, to keep people from looking here.

misterID
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misterID wrote:

Booker is trying to pass a bill to remove all capital confederate monuments. Bannon was right, democrats just lost all those seats next year. It's kind of a brilliant move. Schumer knows it. Completely stupid because those people are going to be just more of the same conservatives who'll screw everything up. But hey, Cory will get to be on TV a lot.

Randall Flagg
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misterID wrote:

Booker is trying to pass a bill to remove all capital confederate monuments. Bannon was right, democrats just lost all those seats next year. It's kind of a brilliant move. Schumer knows it. Completely stupid because those people are going to be just more of the same conservatives who'll screw everything up. But hey, Cory will get to be on TV a lot.


This is what I don't get.  In the age of the internet, Democrats can't hide behind the media.  People are going to see violent leftist attacking innocent people regardless if Rachel Maddow wants to make Jim Carrey faces at the camera and talk about how every person at the rally has sworn fealty to Hitler.  Democrats have an amazing opportunity to capitalize on the anger of Trump's bravado.  But then they go and fuck it up by crying about bronze statues and giving a platform to idiots whose lives are so meaningless, they need to cry about some General who died 150 years ago.  And what Trump said was right.  After they get Lee taken down, they will go after Washington and Jefferson.  I'm surprised there's not a congressman filing a bill to rename the Washington monument to the Obama monument. 


I don't think people are upset at "fake news" or whatever it is they call media that isn't talking about having chills up their leg when Obama speaks.  They're upset that millions of people can use YouTube and twitter to have discussions about a black supremacist who murders 5 cops while Maddow wants to talk about how Freddie Gray was killed in cold blood and the rioters in Baltimore are peace loving defenders of freedom. 

So they'll enrage the tea party types who DO actually show up to vote, unlike the Sanders crowd, and they'll put more Ted Cruz's in office who will pontificate from the senate floor and worry about shit that doesn't matter. 

Democrats are trying to impeach Trump for saying the truth.  That can't be emphasized enough.  Trump said that both sides were violent which is objectively true.  And they think they're going to impeach him for saying this.  If they can't see how this is problematic for them, knowing that this same bullshit is why they lost the election, they're going to come up short in 2018.  Warren was just attacking Clinton for not being liberal enough, so I don't think they've learned anything.  Keith Ellison is 2nd in command of their national party, someone who actually published supremacist and anti semitic material.  And Trump is the problem because he spoke the truth.

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