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PaSnow wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:^ That sounds absurd,
Thanks for the vote of confidence
I don't think it's all that unbelievable. Not really a media coverup, just not releasing some of the finer, confidential details.
If it were a few years back with the mob, definitely. The resorts are way too corporate now, I think.
Prolly right about that, I was thinking old school touch guy mob-casino connections. Then again, you never know.
Yeah, I'm not sure about his intentions on 'escape'. The fertilizer in the car is odd, but it didn't seem ready to blow up, just there in his trunk from what I heard. The wayward shots to the Vegas airport containers are interesting, but probably just stray shots. If there was anything, it was probably just a walk the hallways opening fire on anyone in your way venture down to the garage, get the car, and just cause a major accident in the streets or chasing down people running away.
I think he knew that was a stretch, maybe only if he ran out of ammo or knew too much police was ready to move in (cars, helicopters, swat out front etc)
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What is crazy is Steve Wynn personally knew the guy. He was a BIG TIME high roller. So crazy!!
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Now you can go to jail in California if you call a transgender by the wrong sex.
Seriously.
I don't see how this is constitutional.
Yeah, that's not going to fly. It's certainly not nice, but there's no way in the world that can happen. California is one f'd up place.
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misterID wrote:Now you can go to jail in California if you call a transgender by the wrong sex.
Seriously.
I don't see how this is constitutional.
Yeah, that's not going to fly. It's certainly not nice, but there's no way in the world that can happen. California is one f'd up place.
They need to be careful with this nonsense. They’re going to put the whole concept of changing genders to SCOTUS. And what happens when SCOTUS says you can’t change your sex/gender no matter how hard you wish upon a Star.
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What happens if Dems lose 2018 midterms? Will they go further to the left or will there be an attempt to pull back to the middle? I'm concerned because of how they're treating Dianne Feinstein.
Critics of the 84-year-old senator argue she has grown out of touch with the political shifts in California and within the party, and that she should make way to allow other Democrats to climb the political ladder.
"After 47 years in elected office and 25 years in the Senate, she continues to cling to office as a voice for the status quo," said freshman Rep. Ro Khanna, who won his Silicon Valley area district by defeating the Democratic incumbent there. Other state Democrats have weighed in on the broader concern of party leadership. Last week, Rep. Linda Sanchez, referring to colleague Nancy Pelosi, said it's time to pass the torch to a new generation in the party."
Daily Kos is trying to co-op the party. That will be a disaster.
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Pelosi blew it on the 'Bump stocks'. Instead of leaving it at just 'We need to ban them (and them only, asap)', she went crazy left and adamamtly stated 'I hope its only the beginning of a slippery slope'.
If 2016 proved anything, you're not going to win US elections by going far left. Also it wasn't the time for a debate, just ban the bump stocks for now. Even that would've been seen as a big win for dems.
She blew it, and is out of touch.
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This Las Vegas thing is fucked. Timelines changing. Conflicting stories, nothing makes sense.
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So here's my take on politics in general. This is probably going to be a long post...I apologize in advance.
Maybe it's because I was young and naive, but when I was a kid, it seemed like the two parties worked together for the most part for the 3 years and only really duked it out in presidential election years. Carter is the first president I actually have a memory of; Reagan I remember much better (to give some perspective on the timeframe). Maybe they didn't really work together, but it seemed like they did to me. They certainly don't anymore. It's us against them on both sides of the aisle.
For this system to work, the balance is important. Most of the people I know are fiscal conservatives and social liberals on some level. Some lean more one direction or the other, but I don't personally know anyone that at least advertises that they are far left or far right. The country won't survive if we push too far in either direction. We can't afford to be too liberal because the math doesn't work. Most liberals even know that being truly liberal isn't possible. Conversely we don't need the conservatives telling everybody what they can and can't do in their bedrooms (for example). We have to be in the middle somewhere, and most people know that. So when we get too far in either direction, the normal process is that it swings back in the other direction. The further we go in one direction, the further we seem to bounce back the other direction. The more in the middle we can stay, I think it's best for all involved.
So how do we get to a place where the gov't works for us again? Is a third party needed to force people to work together to get a majority? Not sure...I know some countries have other parties and it's not always a better situation from the little I follow. I really don't know what the answer is tbh. Most people reside in the middle somewhere, but nobody represents us. That seems impossible, but that's how it is.
I think Trump is a product of a couple things. One is Clinton and Bernie were both bozos and the republican candidates weren't any better. In addition to that, he was a real beacon of change...he's an outsider that won't play by the rules. In some ways that is great, but in others we're getting what we deserve for electing him. I don't understand why people are so scared of him. I completely get not liking him, but people are genuinely scared of him as though he can actually do something. The truth is he really can't do anything on his own, and certainly not something like nuking NK. There's too much fear mongering going on that is directing attention away from reality and making things a circus. Maybe that's appropriate since so many politicians are clowns.
I have other thoughts, but this is either going to start a discussion as I am interested in other's thoughts or it's going to be ignored because it's too long. Where did we lose cooperation? Did we ever have it? Can we get it back? Do we want to get it back or do we feed off of the chaos?
