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mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
bigbri wrote:

This is the stupidity of this administration's policy on immigrants. This makes no sense and does make the U.S. safer or more secure.

http://woodtv.com/2018/01/20/kzoo-docto … ars-in-us/

KALAMAZOO, Mich. (WOOD) — Even as the issue of immigration has been central to the government shutdown in Washington, a respected doctor at Kalamazoo’s Bronson Methodist Hospital who has been living in America for nearly 40 years finds himself in jail after U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents took him from his home in handcuffs.

Lukasz Niec is an internal medicine doctor putting in long hours as a hospitalist for Bronson. His co-workers describe him as the model of what a physician should be.

And now, he is sitting in a jail cell in Calhoun County with no idea of when — or if — he will be free to return to his patients and his family.

“In 1979, my parents were both doctors left Poland and took two suitcases and two small children, my brother was five and I was six and they came here for a better life for their kids,” said Iwona Niec-Villaire Saturday as she sat next to her sister-in-law.

Now, the siblings are in their mid-40s, she is an attorney, he is a doctor — they have been in America for four decades on a permanent green card.

“He doesn’t even speak Polish,” Niec-Villaire said.

On Tuesday, as Niec was enjoying a day off with his tween girls at his home on the lake in this exclusive neighborhood near Kalamazoo, three ICE officers came to his home, told him he was being taken into custody and took him to jail.

“The question I get asked all the time is ‘Why do you think this happened?’ I just really don’t know,” said Niec-Villaire.

ICE will not comment on the case and has held no hearings. A bond hearing may not come until February, and it is unlikely it will be granted, according to immigration law experts.

“Until this gets heard, which could be up to six months, he could be stuck in a prison cell and not helping and being with his family,” said Niec-Villaire.

The only spot on Niec’s record is two misdemeanor convictions when he was 17, one for destruction of property less than $100 and receiving and concealing stolen goods.

He pleaded to these charges more than 25 years ago under the Holmes Youthful Trainee Act that allows young first offenders to avoid a criminal record if they never offend again.

But ICE — a federal agency — does not honor that state plea agreement, something Niec did not know when he took the plea, according to family.

“These misdemeanors were just an adolescent making mistakes and learning from them,” Niec-Villaire said.

She said she and her brother are as American as anyone can be.

“He cannot back to Poland, a country he doesn’t know, he has no family at, both our parents passed away in the United States, he doesn’t know anyone, he wouldn’t know where to go,” Niec-Villaire said.

Now, Niec awaits his fate in jail.

“We did go see him on Wednesday, he was shaking, in an orange T-shirt, just kind of shell-shocked,” Niec-Villaire said

His wife says their two daughters need their dad.

“He’s an excellent physician, he’s loving, he’s caring, he’s an honorable husband and he’s always helping others,” said the doctor’s wife of two years, Rachelle Burkart-Niec.

Bronson’s administration would not comment on the case, but dozens of doctors and other employees are sending letters of support.

“He’s been, just completely the model physician that you want a physician to be,” said Dr. Hussein Akl, , also a doctor in Bronson Internal Medicine. “The only danger I can see him on is when he’s swinging his golf swing.”

Others who worked with Niece say they are dumbfounded and outraged.

“He’s exactly the kind of person our immigration policies should be encouraging to prosper here, he’s been here for 40 years, this is a ridiculous situation,” said Dr. Michael Raphelson who specializes in palliative medicine.

More than 25 people gathered at the home Saturday including friends and family.

“He’s just a good guy, I mean, he just is,” said Brent Richmond, a friend of Niec for 25 years, as he fought back tears.

Marc Asch, an immigration attorney in Kalamazoo said in the last year, ICE has broadened its scope meaning that cases the agency would not have gone after previously are now fair game.

“These days there’s less discretion being exercised in who they go after, they’re being more aggressive, generally speaking,” Asch said.

Asch said the government may not even have a solid case and it could likely end with Niec being able to stay in America — but that could be a process that takes months or even years.

It is also possible that ICE is targeting affluent immigrants of European descent to avoid the appearance of racial profiling.

But those who love Niec are not interested in becoming examples.

“He’s the person I call, whenever anything goes wrong or right and now I can’t do that and it’s breaking me up,” said Niec-Villaire. “This is a man that is needed in the community, not detained in Calhoun County Jail.”

It never was about keeping us safer. There is no data or evidence to suggest that it does.

bigbri
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bigbri wrote:

Sorry that article was longer than I thought.

Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:

Wut the fuck. Thanks for the article bigbri.  This is so stupid. Don’t we have bigger issues?

Randall Flagg
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Smoking Guns wrote:

Wut the fuck. Thanks for the article bigbri.  This is so stupid. Don’t we have bigger issues?


Is it possible we don’t have the whole story?  That he wasn’t picked up for a crime he committed 30 years ago?

I don’t want to deport doctors anymore than you do, but Mitch would be the first one to claim a double standard when an MS-13 member was deported and this guy wasn’t.

And why did he never apply for citizenship?  Happy to have a green card for 4 decades and enjoy every aspect of American life but didn’t want to give up polish citizenship.

bigbri
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bigbri wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Wut the fuck. Thanks for the article bigbri.  This is so stupid. Don’t we have bigger issues?


Is it possible we don’t have the whole story?  That he wasn’t picked up for a crime he committed 30 years ago?

I don’t want to deport doctors anymore than you do, but Mitch would be the first one to claim a double standard when an MS-13 member was deported and this guy wasn’t.

And why did he never apply for citizenship?  Happy to have a green card for 4 decades and enjoy every aspect of American life but didn’t want to give up polish citizenship.

He committed two low-level property crimes as a minor. My guess: vandalism or destruction of property or something like that.

Randall Flagg
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bigbri wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Wut the fuck. Thanks for the article bigbri.  This is so stupid. Don’t we have bigger issues?


Is it possible we don’t have the whole story?  That he wasn’t picked up for a crime he committed 30 years ago?

I don’t want to deport doctors anymore than you do, but Mitch would be the first one to claim a double standard when an MS-13 member was deported and this guy wasn’t.

And why did he never apply for citizenship?  Happy to have a green card for 4 decades and enjoy every aspect of American life but didn’t want to give up polish citizenship.

He committed two low-level property crimes as a minor. My guess: vandalism or destruction of property or something like that.


Wouldn’t that be masked since he was a juvenile?  If that’s all it is, give this man his day in court and consider what he’s done for his community. I’m just saying there could be more to the story than 30 year old mischief charges.

bigbri
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bigbri wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
bigbri wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Is it possible we don’t have the whole story?  That he wasn’t picked up for a crime he committed 30 years ago?

I don’t want to deport doctors anymore than you do, but Mitch would be the first one to claim a double standard when an MS-13 member was deported and this guy wasn’t.

And why did he never apply for citizenship?  Happy to have a green card for 4 decades and enjoy every aspect of American life but didn’t want to give up polish citizenship.

He committed two low-level property crimes as a minor. My guess: vandalism or destruction of property or something like that.


Wouldn’t that be masked since he was a juvenile?  If that’s all it is, give this man his day in court and consider what he’s done for his community. I’m just saying there could be more to the story than 30 year old mischief charges.

Family members have been talking about it. They claim otherwise he's clean. Not sure if his minor record cannot be accessed by ICE. I assume they can get to them if they want. I dunno.

bigbri
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bigbri wrote:

When the government shuts down again in a few weeks, Trump, Miller and the top GOP leadership should get the blame, no question.


mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
bigbri wrote:

When the government shuts down again in a few weeks, Trump, Miller and the top GOP leadership should get the blame, no question.


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I really do t know how anyone can defend this guy...he’s a pathetic president and a terrible human being

Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
bigbri wrote:

When the government shuts down again in a few weeks, Trump, Miller and the top GOP leadership should get the blame, no question.


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I really do t know how anyone can defend this guy...he’s a pathetic president and a terrible human being

I think Trump will allow a bigger number of illegals to become legal but wants to end all the other shit. I think the Dems will cave.

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