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misterID wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:Everyone in the country should pay attention to this race. This is Florida. THE swing state. A surrogate for Trump versus a surrogate for Sanders. This will tell us how 2020 will go. Democrats go to the far left at their own peril.
DeSantis pulled in nearly more votes than both Democratic candidates COMBINED.
Scott had a huge turnout also.
Pretty misleading...
The Dems ran 4 candidates totalling about 1.4 million votes.
The republicans ran 2 candidates totalling almost 1.5 million
This is fair to an extent, but there were 8 Republican candidates running, more than the dems, and had nearly 1.7 million total votes, far more than the dem ticket total. And the dem ticket was far more fractured and split.
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mitchejw wrote:misterID wrote:DeSantis pulled in nearly more votes than both Democratic candidates COMBINED.
Scott had a huge turnout also.
Pretty misleading...
The Dems ran 4 candidates totalling about 1.4 million votes.
The republicans ran 2 candidates totalling almost 1.5 million
This is fair to an extent, but there were 8 Republican candidates running, more than the dems, and had nearly 1.7 million total votes, far more than the dem ticket total. And the dem ticket was far more fractured and split.
Hmm...I don't see that on RCP https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
I wasn't paying that close attention though.
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Randall Flagg wrote:misterID wrote:The Bernie guy just won the Democratic nom from Graham for Florida governor... I am stunned. I was certain she was going to be the next governor, she was the perfect candidate. Holy Cow. DeSantis is going to win. No one thought he'd get the Republican nomination. Dems just lost South Florida, the panhandle, rural Florida and holy shit, they might have just lost Central Florida with this pick (Florida Hispanics are fervent anti socialist/communist).
If they just nominated a socialist over a moderate woman.... Buckle up.
Everyone in the country should pay attention to this race. This is Florida. THE swing state. A surrogate for Trump versus a surrogate for Sanders. This will tell us how 2020 will go. Democrats go to the far left at their own peril.
Why would you think that? Republicans went far right and won.
I disagree they went far right. Trump is hardly a “conservative”. Trump was anti-immigration, which the majority of the country is too. The majority of Americans don’t believe illegal immigrants should be able to enter the country as they please. That’s not a “far right” view. But the election is the Democrats for the taking. You run someone as left as Sanders, you’re going to excite the same people who voted for Trump and alienate everyone in the middle. Mark my words, if the Democrats go towards Warren or Sanders ideologically, Trump will be re-elected.
Re: US Politics Thread
mitchejw wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:Everyone in the country should pay attention to this race. This is Florida. THE swing state. A surrogate for Trump versus a surrogate for Sanders. This will tell us how 2020 will go. Democrats go to the far left at their own peril.
Why would you think that? Republicans went far right and won.
I disagree they went far right. Trump is hardly a “conservative”. Trump was anti-immigration, which the majority of the country is too. The majority of Americans don’t believe illegal immigrants should be able to enter the country as they please. That’s not a “far right” view. But the election is the Democrats for the taking. You run someone as left as Sanders, you’re going to excite the same people who voted for Trump and alienate everyone in the middle. Mark my words, if the Democrats go towards Warren or Sanders ideologically, Trump will be re-elected.
Can any woman really win? If it were ever going to happen, it should have in 2016.
As far as immigration goes, I think a considerable number of the Trump supporters dislike even legal immigration.
As far as Trump being a conservative, he basically embodied the movement and became an amoeba. Trump has no personal political agenda because he just does whatever his base likes. I don't see him as someone who stands for anything but what keeps him on top.
And of course, anything that's good for Trump enterprises.
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Randall Flagg wrote:mitchejw wrote:Why would you think that? Republicans went far right and won.
I disagree they went far right. Trump is hardly a “conservative”. Trump was anti-immigration, which the majority of the country is too. The majority of Americans don’t believe illegal immigrants should be able to enter the country as they please. That’s not a “far right” view. But the election is the Democrats for the taking. You run someone as left as Sanders, you’re going to excite the same people who voted for Trump and alienate everyone in the middle. Mark my words, if the Democrats go towards Warren or Sanders ideologically, Trump will be re-elected.
Can any woman really win? If it were ever going to happen, it should have in 2016.
As far as immigration goes, I think a considerable number of the Trump supporters dislike even legal immigration.
As far as Trump being a conservative, he basically embodied the movement and became an amoeba. Trump has no personal political agenda because he just does whatever his base likes. I don't see him as someone who stands for anything but what keeps him on top.
And of course, anything that's good for Trump enterprises.
Of course a woman can win. You just need a woman who has an actual resume and connects with voters. Their platform needs to be more than "I'm a woman, let's break this "ceiling" ". Hillary would have won if she hadn't avoided any kind of interview for a year and didn't come across as an entitled bitch. And actually giving a fuck about her husband's base by campaigning. Her crowds were a joke because no one liked her even if they agreed with her.
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misterID wrote:Nikki Haley.
I don’t think anyone has ever been president from South Carolina.
Seems like a lifer in politics.
They said a black man would never be president. I don't think someone being from South Carolina means shit.
Can't argue with her teeth.
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mitchejw wrote:misterID wrote:Nikki Haley.
I don’t think anyone has ever been president from South Carolina.
Seems like a lifer in politics.
They said a black man would never be president. I don't think someone being from South Carolina means shit.
Can't argue with her teeth.
I'm just saying there are states in this country that produce politicians that don't project well nationally. South Carolina might be one of those.
