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Re: Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC?
war wrote:he's no more in the band right now then he would be if he made the deal.
that's the thing....he would have to make a DEAL....it wouldn't be a "lets just fucking do it" type of chemistry....and if they make a deal...there will always be that white elephant in the room...which is the collection of old conflicts past and present....
i thought that went without saying
isn't this true with all of our relationships and growing up - learning to accept what you cannot change
it always starts out as a deal, always
- Locomotive98
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Re: Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC?
I think its a lot of speculation/blind optimism that this has actually happened. I'm so hoping that it has of course, but they may have met for any reason. It could all be about who borrows Sebastian Bach for the weekend. Who knows.
Whatever contracts etc that Axl, Slash or'GNR' have in place will be easily superceded by whatever Azoff and Co can knock up or any collaboration that each party's management can agree on for the right price/revenue etc. A reunion would buy any respective party out of any current paperwork they have as long as the right people get the right cut. Costs for CD will be written off striaght away and Scott Weiland/poor Libertad sales will be a distant memory. No one will do anything but benefit massively from a proper Guns tour.
Unfortunately, the only real stepping stone as has been mentioned is Axl's ego and bizarre notion that he alone is Guns N'Roses. How anyone alone can make up something that is technically a plural is odd, but the world of Axl seems to be a strange place. I think it would take a lot for him to admit that he needs the real band to really move forward and take the world by storm again. 14 years of bollocks has proved that to be the case, A bunch of session musicians cant live up to a legacy as large as GNR's no matter how hard they try. The world at large doesnt need to hear 5 versions of IRS when they could hear Slash and co rip out Civil War or all the other classics they themselves wrote.
This debate could go on forever but now with the debacle that is Chinese Democracy/Axl & Friends there is only one way forward - make the call Axl. Or we'll set Tommy Hilfiger on you.
- Abbey_Road
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Re: Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC?
saw this in that thread at mygnr.com
http://www.celebheights.com/s/Axl-Rose-1189.html
Here is Glenn's viewpoint on this. Glenn is a guy who tracks celebs down and has a website dedicated to their height.
glenn says on 22/Apr/08
i can confirm that axl wasnt at slashs hotel.thats for damn sure.i was there.and when i wasnt,other people i know covered it.so they wouldve spotted him.as for him being in the city,id say that was 90 percent false.that ill research though.however,slash did disappear off the face of the earth and was never spotted leaving his hotel.so either he flew out early the next day,which made no sense as the other guests(tom morello)stood around for days,and slash was expected to stick around.but nobody knew how he flew in or out,which we usually do.another theory i have is he checked out the hotel and switched to another,which is what celebs do on rare occasion to avoid being hassled.he was at a midscale dump for his standards.so maybe he switched to his usual 5 star hotels.and if he did,a meeting with axl wouldnt be impossible,and could be the cause of his switch.but this sounds pure fantasy.ill ask around.thanks.
Re: Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC?
saw this in that thread at mygnr.com
http://www.celebheights.com/s/Axl-Rose-1189.html
Here is Glenn's viewpoint on this. Glenn is a guy who tracks celebs down and has a website dedicated to their height.
glenn says on 22/Apr/08
i can confirm that axl wasnt at slashs hotel.thats for damn sure.i was there.and when i wasnt,other people i know covered it.so they wouldve spotted him.as for him being in the city,id say that was 90 percent false.that ill research though.however,slash did disappear off the face of the earth and was never spotted leaving his hotel.so either he flew out early the next day,which made no sense as the other guests(tom morello)stood around for days,and slash was expected to stick around.but nobody knew how he flew in or out,which we usually do.another theory i have is he checked out the hotel and switched to another,which is what celebs do on rare occasion to avoid being hassled.he was at a midscale dump for his standards.so maybe he switched to his usual 5 star hotels.and if he did,a meeting with axl wouldnt be impossible,and could be the cause of his switch.but this sounds pure fantasy.ill ask around.thanks.
I saw that and kinda thought it was funny. On the one hand he is bascially saying that Axl wasn't there because he or other people "had the hotel covered" the whole time. But in the next breath he basically says he doesn't know when and how Slash left???
Back on the reunion thing, I don't see them getting back together until CD is released and touring done. As Madagas has pointed out in a few posts, if Axl is the only one getting any $$'s from the actual recording contract with the hired guns getting paid salaries for touring or CD contributions, why would he cut Slash in on that now? Yeah sure it would probably boosts sales and interest, but why play that card yet, he would keep that ace up his sleeve for later.
Besides, from what I understand Slash would only come back if it was equal shares and control of the band - none of this pathetic contracted bullshit. Plus I doubt he would join without Duff and probably Izzy too.
Re: Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC?
It isn't a reunion without Izzy. End of discussion. Izzy is and has always been the go between. For fuck's sake, he went on a European tour with Axl within the last few years. He started his first bands with Axl. He went to High School with Axl. He still plays with Duff and Slash on various occasions. He showed up for the AFD 20th. He would clearly do a reunion tour if it is done properly.:thumbup:
Re: Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC?
that guy has some decent, accurate scoops on Axl. However, he is purely guessing and talking out of his ass there. I don't think there is any top secret mind blowing things going on right now. It's real simple. Axl is negotiating to get HIS album released. I take his last statement to heart. He will figure the other shit out later.:smile:
Re: Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC?
now we have paparazzi on the message boards? wtf
lol - that thought crossed my mind too.
Whether the meeting happened or not, if Slash ever wants to be back with Axl he has to really make Axl want/need him.
At the moment Axl obviously has the whip hand. You then look at what Slash has done post GN'R with VR and Snakepit - yes there are some good moments in there and I personally like a lot of the stuff, but as a collective it's nothing truly mind blowing/ground breaking.
The best thing Slash can do is get to his solo record then work his ass off. He has to really push himself and also have the right people working with him on it from both an artistic point of view plus a producer point of view. In addition, if someone like Rick Rubin tells you that you have some good stuff but should write some more and keep working on it, then suck it up put your head down and keep creating.
If he is able to produce a solo record with really epic guitar work through the whole album, not just one or two tracks, he then starts to become a more attractive proposition for Axl. He needs Axl to hear his work and think "I need to have this guy back". At the moment the only thing he is really offering is his iconic image and the fact that he is the original guitarist (which is enough for me), but for Axl I dare say he has to offer more than that.
At the moment Slash is a bit like a beaten dog that would skulk back home as soon as his master will let him. He needs to address that position and wrest some of the power back from Axl by producing some of the truly great work that we all know he is capable of.
Once he is in that position and can show that he doesn't necessarily need GN'R to be great again, then anything is possible from there.
- Mikkamakka
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Re: Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC?
I don't think Slash'd want to go to Axl so badly. He left cause Axl was unable to get on the stage in time, and was unable to finish anything, like an album. Not to mention that in Slash's eyes Axl was a control freak. Nothing changed since then.
I don't know if the meeting in NY happened. But even if it did, I'm sure it wasn't planned since Slash had his son with him and I don't think London or Cash is his personal assistant as Axl has Beta. 
- elevendayempire
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Re: Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC?
It isn't a reunion without Izzy. End of discussion. Izzy is and has always been the go between. For fuck's sake, he went on a European tour with Axl within the last few years. He started his first bands with Axl. He went to High School with Axl. He still plays with Duff and Slash on various occasions. He showed up for the AFD 20th. He would clearly do a reunion tour if it is done properly.:thumbup:
Yeah, but by the same token, we had the guys on the 2006 tour saying that he enjoys that setup - dropping in occasionally, but not being obligated to make an appearance. I don't doubt that he'd tour if it was the right setup, but I couldn't imagine it being a going concern. After all, "Izzy is Izzy."
Plus I'd gnaw off my own arm to see Fortus and Slash sharing a stage. 
