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- Smoking Guns
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I agree Axl S. I.think we take it in stride tho. I'll admit at times its gotten testy but its been generally tolerable imho
I dont think Randall, SG, or buzz have major complaints
I think Mitch hates us, but others just disagree. With Mitch, it seems more personal.
I watch Black Klansman last night. I enjoyed it, but the very very end was so terrible to watch. I didn’t like Spike Lee making Trump look like the grand wizard but those Klan folks can go fuck themselves.
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I agree Axl S. I.think we take it in stride tho. I'll admit at times its gotten testy but its been generally tolerable imho
I dont think Randall, SG, or buzz have major complaints
Some of you I guess. Mitch, Randall and buzz need to turn down the heat imo.
On topic: I am still shocked no one seems to care that the report confirms that October 2016 candidate Trump thought the Russians had compromising tapes of him and his fixer Cohen was dispatched to stem their flow.
1) He'll only think those tapes exist if he did that stuff (Although if he did, I don't care. Each to their own, whatever floats his boat)
2) Even if they don't exist, he thinks they do. So surely that means he's compromised?
Can someone who defends this shit and says the Russia stuff is nothing, please explain the above? This is confirmed fact now.
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PaSnow wrote:I agree Axl S. I.think we take it in stride tho. I'll admit at times its gotten testy but its been generally tolerable imho
I dont think Randall, SG, or buzz have major complaints
Some of you I guess. Mitch, Randall and buzz need to turn down the heat imo.
On topic: I am still shocked no one seems to care that the report confirms that October 2016 candidate Trump thought the Russians had compromising tapes of him and his fixer Cohen was dispatched to stem their flow.
1) He'll only think those tapes exist if he did that stuff (Although if he did, I don't care. Each to their own, whatever floats his boat)
2) Even if they don't exist, he thinks they do. So surely that means he's compromised?Can someone who defends this shit and says the Russia stuff is nothing, please explain the above? This is confirmed fact now.
Interesting point. I did a CTRL+F search of it, page 27 states Cohen recv'd a text message in 2016 saying "Stopped flow of tapes from Russia but not sure if there 's anything else. Just so you know .... "
I don't know how much deeper it goes into it, or if thats in another investigation. I suppose it doesn't define very much about the tapes, could just be footage of Trump walking with or being with 'other women' but not sexually, or having them pee on a bed whilst screaming I hate Obama! 
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Emoluments clause:
Although the President publicly stated during and after the election that he had no connection to Russia, the Trump Organization, through Michael Cohen was pursuing the proposed Trump Tower Moscow project through June 2016 and candidate Trump was repeatedly briefed on the ro ress of those efforts. 498 In addition , some witnesses said that ~s aware that HARM TO ONGOING MATTER at a time when public reports stated that Russian intelligence officials were behind the hacks, and that Trump privately sought information about future WikiLeaks releases.
Wanna bet underneath Harm to Ongoing Matter it was 'Trump was discussing building a Hotel in Moscow'
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^ Dude, don't even get me started on her. She lies to the American public & the media, then, under oath she tells the truth. Now, when not under oath, she sways from her sworn testimony she gave under oath & goes back to telling her originally fables. So plastic.
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Democrats must push for impeachment now. This report is absolutely damning. Trump's camp knew what Russia was doing, but was fine receiving information from them in order to advance their campaign. He also obstructed justice in many different instances. And when it's all said and done, the POTUS publicly stood with Putin over our intelligence communities on the world stage AFTER their election meddling. He's a traitor and is 100% unfit to serve as POTUS. Mueller clearly has left this in the hands of our Congress to do their job and start impeachment proceedings. It's their job to uphold our Constitution.
Barr actually outdid himself on this one. I knew he was Trump's stooge, but his synopsis was nothing more than carefully picked lines from Mueller's work, pieced together to create a completely false narrative. Some real banana republic shit. It worked though, at least for Trump's base. They had time claim innocence for weeks before the truth was released. Just as I said they would.
Edit: Anybody else notice how Trump claimed Mueller's report cleared his name (as did others here), but now is back on the warpath since its release? Funny how that works. That's because it was the "Barr Report" that was released at the time, not the factual one.
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I can't believe I'm agreeing with Walsh on anything. But it's what I've been saying for months: You either OK with it or you're not. It's that simple.
Cut thru the bullshit: 5 days since the Report hit, it's still clear that:
— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) April 23, 2019
Trump knew about & encouraged Russian interference.
He lied. And lied. And lied.
He directed everyone else to lie.
He obstructed justice.
You're either ok with this behavior, or you're not. I'm not.
Stunning.
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) April 21, 2019
This is the personal lawyer of the President of the United States praising the illegal hacking of emails by a foreign government to influence an election as a public service. https://t.co/lHjgROI3ge
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I was a Trump transition staffer, and I’ve seen enough. It’s time for impeachment.
Let’s start at the end of this story. This weekend, I read Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report twice, and realized that enough was enough—I needed to do something. I’ve worked on every Republican presidential transition team for the past 10 years and recently served as counsel to the Republican-led House Financial Services Committee. My permanent job is as a law professor at the George Mason University Antonin Scalia Law School, which is not political, but where my colleagues have held many prime spots in Republican administrations.
If you think calling for the impeachment of a sitting Republican president would constitute career suicide for someone like me, you may end up being right. But I did exactly that this weekend, tweeting that it’s time to begin impeachment proceedings.
Let’s go back to the beginning. In August 2016, I interviewed to join the pre-transition team of Donald Trump. Since 2012, every presidential election stands up a pre-transition team for both candidates, so that the real transition will have had a six-month head start when the election is decided. I participated in a similar effort for Mitt Romney, and despite our defeat, it was a thrilling and rewarding experience. I walked into a conference room at Jones Day that Don McGahn had graciously arranged to lend to the folks interviewing for the transition team.
The question I feared inevitably opened the interview: “How do you feel about Donald Trump?” I could not honestly say I admired him. While working on Senator Marco Rubio’s primary campaign, I had watched Trump throw schoolyard nicknames at him. I gave the only honest answer I could: “I admire the advisers he’s chosen, like Larry Kudlow and David Malpass, and I admire his choice of VP.” That did the trick. I got the impression they’d heard that one before. I was one of the first 16 members of Trump’s transition team, as deputy director of economic policy.
In time, my work for the transition became awkward. I disagreed with Trump’s rhetoric on immigration and trade. I also had strong concerns about his policies in my area of financial regulation. The hostility to Russian sanctions from the policy team, particularly from those members picked by Paul Manafort, was even more unsettling.
I wasn’t very good at hiding my distaste. We parted ways in October amicably; I wasn’t the right fit. I wished many of my friends who worked on the transition well, and I respected their decision to stay on after Trump won. A few of them even arranged offers for policy jobs in the White House, which I nearly accepted but ultimately turned down, as I knew I’d be no better fit there than I had been on the transition.
I never considered joining the Never Trump Republican efforts. Their criticisms of President Trump’s lack of character and unfitness for office were spot-on, of course, but they didn’t seem very pragmatic. There was no avoiding the fact that he’d won, and like many others, I felt the focus should be on guiding his policy decisions in a constructive direction. The man whom I most admire in that regard is McGahn, Trump’s first White House counsel, who guided the president toward some amazing nominees for regulatory agencies and the judiciary.
I wanted to share my experience transitioning from Trump team member to pragmatist about Trump to advocate for his impeachment, because I think many other Republicans are starting a similar transition. Politics is a team sport, and if you actively work within a political party, there is some expectation that you will follow orders and rally behind the leader, even when you disagree. There is a point, though, at which that expectation turns from a mix of loyalty and pragmatism into something more sinister, a blind devotion that serves to enable criminal conduct.
The Mueller report was that tipping point for me, and it should be for Republican and independent voters, and for Republicans in Congress. In the face of a Department of Justice policy that prohibited him from indicting a sitting president, Mueller drafted what any reasonable reader would see as a referral to Congress to commence impeachment hearings.
Depending on how you count, roughly a dozen separate instances of obstruction of justice are contained in the Mueller report. The president dangled pardons in front of witnesses to encourage them to lie to the special counsel, and directly ordered people to lie to throw the special counsel off the scent.
This elaborate pattern of obstruction may have successfully impeded the Mueller investigation from uncovering a conspiracy to commit more serious crimes. At a minimum, there’s enough here to get the impeachment process started. In impeachment proceedings, the House serves as a sort of grand jury and the Senate conducts the trial. There is enough in the Mueller report to commence the Constitution’s version of a grand-jury investigation in the form of impeachment proceedings.
The Founders knew that impeachment would be, in part, a political exercise. They decided that the legislative branch would operate as the best check on the president by channeling the people’s will. Congress has an opportunity to shape that public sentiment with the hearings ahead. As sentiments shift, more and more Republicans in Congress will feel emboldened to stand up to the president. The nation has been through this drama before, with more than a year of hearings in the Richard Nixon scandal, which ultimately forced his resignation.
Republicans who stand up to Trump today may face some friendly fire. Today’s Republican electorate seems spellbound by the sound bites of Twitter and cable news, for which Trump is a born wizard. Yet, in time, we can help rebuild the Republican Party, enabling it to rise from the ashes of the post-Trump apocalypse into a party with renewed commitment to principles of liberty, opportunity, and the rule of law.
- Smoking Guns
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Fuck it man. Just beat the guy in the election for fucks sake. They also show the fucking Dossier God Damn bogus as fuck. So get fucked your moral high ground shit. Beat the fucker in the voting booth and stop acting fucking double talking jive mother fuckers.
