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- Randall Flagg
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Randall Flagg wrote:The whole “Russian Interference” of $100k in Facebook ads occurred on Obama’s watch, and he did dick.
I agree with you. He had a dilemna, announce to the public Russians are working to help Trumps campaign, and make it look like HE is interfering with the election, or let things ride out. In a typical Obama case of overthinking, he saw Hillary's lead in the polls, and made the decision not to announce this or make it public.
When Trump won, the info was passed along & investigations began. Which explained Trumps early on tweet about "I just found out Obama secretly wiretapped Trump Tower". because, as President, he is updated on activities in the intelligence community.
Also, I wouldn't view Mueller testimony as a win for Trump. Barr's been awfully silent since the reports release, and there could be a bit of gamesmanship among the two as Mueller was never happy Barr gave his own summary and not the summaries which were included in the report, nor how Barr essentially quelled the report as a whole.
Odd that Mueller initially stated he had no intention of speaking, then ultimately made the decision to speak. Interesting....
Democrats threatened to subpoena him. He agreed to 2 hours under each committee. 2 hours, spilt between each party.
Re: US Politics Thread
buzzsaw wrote:The words racist and racism have no meaning anymore. People literally have no idea what they actually mean it's been so diluted.
3 of them were born in the US. I don't even know if AOC's parents were born in Puerto Rico, they very well may be from NYC as well. Heck, Trumps parents I believe were born in another country. Did Hillary yell "If you don't like it go back to where you came from!" in 2016 when he said the US was a mess?
And 1989 Axl Rose said 'Go back to your country' however 2018 Axl didn't even release that song on his $500 box set.
It doesn't matter...none of that makes it racist. It isn't an anything -ist (maybe USist, but that's what he's always claimed to be anyway), so your side has lumped everything as racist to make sound bad, but now that word has no meaning. If you don't like it here, GTFO is a perfectly acceptable response. So is change the laws you don't like. There are a lot of acceptable responses; accusing someone of racism because you think it makes them sound bad isn't one of them. It just waters down the actual racism...
Not wanting illegal immigrants in the country is NOT racist. Not wanting antisemitic people in the country is NOT racist. Not wanting terrorists in the country is NOT racist. Erring on the side of caution in all of these cases is NOT racist. It's protecting the country, which contrary to popular belief these days is one of the top responsibilities of the President. Should he say the things he says? No, but much better that it's out in the open than behind closed doors like Pelosi.
If this country was even 1/10 as racist as the dems have been trying to make it sound like it is...there's no good way to put it, but a lot of really bad shit would be happening. We've come a long way. We still have work to do (on all sides). Accusing everything of being racist is taking us back in time far more than anything Trump has said though.
Re: US Politics Thread
PaSnow wrote:buzzsaw wrote:The words racist and racism have no meaning anymore. People literally have no idea what they actually mean it's been so diluted.
3 of them were born in the US. I don't even know if AOC's parents were born in Puerto Rico, they very well may be from NYC as well. Heck, Trumps parents I believe were born in another country. Did Hillary yell "If you don't like it go back to where you came from!" in 2016 when he said the US was a mess?
And 1989 Axl Rose said 'Go back to your country' however 2018 Axl didn't even release that song on his $500 box set.
It doesn't matter...none of that makes it racist. It isn't an anything -ist (maybe USist, but that's what he's always claimed to be anyway), so your side has lumped everything as racist to make sound bad, but now that word has no meaning. If you don't like it here, GTFO is a perfectly acceptable response. So is change the laws you don't like. There are a lot of acceptable responses; accusing someone of racism because you think it makes them sound bad isn't one of them. It just waters down the actual racism...
Not wanting illegal immigrants in the country is NOT racist. Not wanting antisemitic people in the country is NOT racist. Not wanting terrorists in the country is NOT racist. Erring on the side of caution in all of these cases is NOT racist. It's protecting the country, which contrary to popular belief these days is one of the top responsibilities of the President. Should he say the things he says? No, but much better that it's out in the open than behind closed doors like Pelosi.
If this country was even 1/10 as racist as the dems have been trying to make it sound like it is...there's no good way to put it, but a lot of really bad shit would be happening. We've come a long way. We still have work to do (on all sides). Accusing everything of being racist is taking us back in time far more than anything Trump has said though.
It's "politically incorrect" how about that then?
Re: US Politics Thread
buzzsaw wrote:PaSnow wrote:3 of them were born in the US. I don't even know if AOC's parents were born in Puerto Rico, they very well may be from NYC as well. Heck, Trumps parents I believe were born in another country. Did Hillary yell "If you don't like it go back to where you came from!" in 2016 when he said the US was a mess?
And 1989 Axl Rose said 'Go back to your country' however 2018 Axl didn't even release that song on his $500 box set.
It doesn't matter...none of that makes it racist. It isn't an anything -ist (maybe USist, but that's what he's always claimed to be anyway), so your side has lumped everything as racist to make sound bad, but now that word has no meaning. If you don't like it here, GTFO is a perfectly acceptable response. So is change the laws you don't like. There are a lot of acceptable responses; accusing someone of racism because you think it makes them sound bad isn't one of them. It just waters down the actual racism...
Not wanting illegal immigrants in the country is NOT racist. Not wanting antisemitic people in the country is NOT racist. Not wanting terrorists in the country is NOT racist. Erring on the side of caution in all of these cases is NOT racist. It's protecting the country, which contrary to popular belief these days is one of the top responsibilities of the President. Should he say the things he says? No, but much better that it's out in the open than behind closed doors like Pelosi.
If this country was even 1/10 as racist as the dems have been trying to make it sound like it is...there's no good way to put it, but a lot of really bad shit would be happening. We've come a long way. We still have work to do (on all sides). Accusing everything of being racist is taking us back in time far more than anything Trump has said though.
It's "politically incorrect" how about that then?
I don't think he's wrong though. He says it horribly but if you're on the record as being antisemitic do you really get to be offended by being told to GTFO? Presentation is important and trump is a complete failure in that department, but the message behind the horrible wording he chooses isn't wrong. Not wanting illegal immigrants in the country is certainly a viable stance given the word illegal. I mean discussion should stop as soon as that word is mentioned, but it doesn't. Dems believe they can pick and choose the laws that should be followed. That's not how it works.
Change the f'n laws if you want, but follow them while they are the law. That's it.
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: US Politics Thread
These same people said Biden and Pelosi were racists last week. So keep that in mind.
Re: US Politics Thread
So anyone who disagrees with Trump should leave, right?
How about Obama. 2008-2016. Obamacare. Should they have left too? The people who disagreed with it. Hannity, Rush, Tea Party. McConnell didn't like Merrick Garland, he should've just left. If a Dem wins in 2020, Republicans should just leave. Go somewhere else. Got it guys, way to paint yourselves into a corner 
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: US Politics Thread
So anyone who disagrees with Trump should leave, right?
How about Obama. 2008-2016. Obamacare. Should they have left too? The people who disagreed with it. Hannity, Rush, Tea Party. McConnell didn't like Merrick Garland, he should've just left. If a Dem wins in 2020, Republicans should just leave. Go somewhere else. Got it guys, way to paint yourselves into a corner
No, just people who openly hate this country and are either refugees or the children of refugees.
Who’d have thought in 2019, patriotism and love of one’s country would be decried as racism and xenophobia. Only in America.
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
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PASnow, why won’t you condemn their violent rhetoric against a lawful government agency that resulted in some nutjob attempting to murder government agents this weekend in Tacoma?
You’ve had no problem in the past assigning blame to others.
Re: US Politics Thread
PaSnow wrote:So anyone who disagrees with Trump should leave, right?
How about Obama. 2008-2016. Obamacare. Should they have left too? The people who disagreed with it. Hannity, Rush, Tea Party. McConnell didn't like Merrick Garland, he should've just left. If a Dem wins in 2020, Republicans should just leave. Go somewhere else. Got it guys, way to paint yourselves into a corner
No, just people who openly hate this country and are either refugees or the children of refugees.
Who’d have thought in 2019, patriotism and love of one’s country would be decried as racism and xenophobia. Only in America.
Only 1 of them is a refugee. And AOC definitely isn't a child of a refugee as puerto ricans are born US citizens. Did you even bother researching the other two?
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PASnow, why won’t you condemn their violent rhetoric against a lawful government agency that resulted in some nutjob attempting to murder government agents this weekend in Tacoma?
You’ve had no problem in the past assigning blame to others.
I worked Sat-Sun, probably didn't post at all if you check the thread.
